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sorry about the shit typing.

Here's that view down to the pillow, if you choose not to traverse you can just ride down from here, hit the pillow then ride into the top left of the glades. If you stick to the left you'll get into that gully, if you stick to the right you'll go back in bounds into the glades.



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Thanks man thats Awesome!
If your there this Sunday and up for a hike let me know, I'll keep you company!

We had KHMR season passes this year, even though the snows not been that good some of the slack country riding was amazing. Found deep powder every single weekend (at khmr) this year... and up to 38 days on the hill so far!!

So nakiska's not that exciting so far but its free (part of my season pass now KHMR is closed) so I'm looking for something a bit more challenging..
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I'm definitely riding on sunday - but I'm going to do what I did last sunday and check the reports in the morning before I set off. Sunshine was meant to get dumped last weekend and it literally changed it's mind on the night. I'll more than likely be riding solo too so pm your number and we can meet up.

I'm a bit worried about nakiska for this weekend as it's warming up during this week adn raining a bit before the next snowfall - could destabilize some of that out of bounds area. I'll see how it goes but I'll more than likely hit Nakiska anyway for the jib park.

I first went out to kicking horse on the 2nd January this year - they had 60cm+ in a day and the highway was closed so no one else could get out there form the revvy side. It was the best experience of my snowboarding life and the snow kept coming down for a few days. T2/3 and Fueze had been closed due to visability through the week and on the Friday they opened with a bluebird sky. I've never been as tired in my life by about 3pm that day - best powder day of my life.
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I'm definitely riding on sunday - but I'm going to do what I did last sunday and check the reports in the morning before I set off. Sunshine was meant to get dumped last weekend and it literally changed it's mind on the night. I'll more than likely be riding solo too so pm your number and we can meet up.

I'm a bit worried about nakiska for this weekend as it's warming up during this week adn raining a bit before the next snowfall - could destabilize some of that out of bounds area. I'll see how it goes but I'll more than likely hit Nakiska anyway for the jib park.

I first went out to kicking horse on the 2nd January this year - they had 60cm+ in a day and the highway was closed so no one else could get out there form the revvy side. It was the best experience of my snowboarding life and the snow kept coming down for a few days. T2/3 and Fueze had been closed due to visability through the week and on the Friday they opened with a bluebird sky. I've never been as tired in my life by about 3pm that day - best powder day of my life.
Sunshine this Sunday if it dumps. 8am Gondola with my B/N pow gun. Im so excited !

Ill also drag the gopro with me so if i meet anyone you can get some footage. Ill be editing the following night. YAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Hmmm, not impressed.... so the ski patrol get to ride up & down in the fresh powder all morning instead of working while everyone else isn't allowed up there?!? !

Poutanen, did you try the chutes at KHMr? Does Nakiska have anything close?
The run to the far left of skiers right is the old downhill run, it's out of bounds but leads back into the top of the Silver chair. It's an easy traverse with very little walking, and the run is fun.

Yeah I've been in KH, Fernie and LLs chutes, and there's nothing quite like that at Nakiska. It's more of a groomer bomber hill. Still good fun to be had on the two runs under the gold chair, there are a bunch of good natural hits/lips at Nak.

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Back to the glades again then (with trees wide enough you could drive a truck through)
Yeah to me those are beginner glades. I'd love it if they'd thin out ALL the forest on the hill and open up tons more terrain.

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when you get to the top of the gold chair, looking up the mounain you head along the path that takes you to the top of the glades - but keep going past the boundary gate.. Then we hiked straight up the hill to get to a microchute. This is where you end up at that point:
Thanks for the pics! If the patrollers were right, that will all be in bounds served by one or two more lifts sooner than later. I had heard there was good terrain in there!

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So nakiska's not that exciting so far but its free (part of my season pass now KHMR is closed) so I'm looking for something a bit more challenging..
I still think Fernie is much better than KH, but we're arguing about the best of the best here! Not much challenging terrain at Nakiska, unless you take one of the two runs under the gold chair. However, there are some great bomber runs (the one that follows the silver chair to the bottom, and one to skiers left of the gold chair) that have some great natural rollers where you can sail it. If you want to work on your carving and get some good air, they're fun. The park isn't bad, but it also isn't good. Would love to see a Lake Louise style park there...
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This is a bit off topic but since it apply's to the terrain you're all discussing in here..........

How long were most of you guys riding before you started heading out to these areas as opposed to just riding the groomers at the hill? I'm only asking because I just started this winter (got a late jump in life I guess) and it's a ton of fun and I've been out about 8 times already since mid Feb. but all I can think about is how amazing it must feel to get to the top and just drop into the deep pillowy powder that I'll never find on the groomed runs.

I'm not a park guy at all and have no desire to be, I like just heading down and winding through the trees and just hopping off natural features. Even this weekend at SSV I was helping my fiance with her toe edge transition so we were way over on the side of the green run on Standish and because no one goes there I got to just go goof off in the deepest powder I've found on any run there. It's just a totally different experience and I can only imagine it's like that x100 where you guys are going.

Even if you can offer advice so I can better prepare myself to transition over from the groomers would be greatly appreciated. I feel like I've caught on very fast and improved a ton in a very short time but I'm smart enough to know when experienced people talk I should shut up and listen.

Thanks guys!
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Thanks for the pics! If the patrollers were right, that will all be in bounds served by one or two more lifts sooner than later. I had heard there was good terrain in there!


I'd actually prefer it to stay out of bounds to keep people away

In answer to matey who wants to get into powder riding - I was thrown into the deep end by my buddies on my second week of riding. Went for a little side country hike on blackcomb on a powder day. spent a lot of time getting used to leaning back and adjusting my turning technique which was beneficial. The frustrating part was having to dig myself out of waist deep pow every time i fell, which was a lot.

I'd recommend learning the technique on some in bound runs that don't get groomed. There's some of the slopes on the north side of Angel, The south side of goats eye can be really nice on a good snow day if you have the technique to traverse the ridges. On standish I know exactly where you're talking about - that gets alot of snow and we've built a kicker there before but there's a long flat walk out if you dont keep up your speed. The paris bowl to the left of wawa collects snow - if you get there early on a good snow day it's a good place to start. none of these runs are particularly long though.
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Within a couple month of getting back into boarding. Staying on the groomers severely limit the terrain available considering the mountains in Alberta and bc.

I think having Louise as a home base forced me to practice on any and all type of terrain. Basically it will make you a better boarder or break you.

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How long were most of you guys riding before you started heading out to these areas as opposed to just riding the groomers at the hill?
Off-piste (not out of bounds, but glades, chutes, steeper technical stuff, etc.) and deep powder are very different from groomers at first. The principles are are relatively the same though, so it shouldn't take longer than a couple days to start getting used to riding in real powder, near some trees (riding beside the trees and getting closer and closer is a good way to start as opposed to just diving right in).

One of the skills you have to develop for off-piste riding has nothing to do with the mechanics of riding itself. You have to learn how to pick your line. Reading the run, the snow, the bumps, etc. is something that comes with time. Start on a slope that is generally a little less steep then your current limit on a groomer, but it has a few trees or rocks on it. Pick a line through the "hazards" and try it out. As long as you don't get tunnel vision and focus right on the tree, you'll be fine, and probably have a blast doing so. Repeat again and again with different terrain, getting steeper, more narrow, add in some small drops, then some larger drops.

At some point along the line the mountain becomes your playground. The trees are your dance partners and you gracefully swing around them without missing a beat. The rocks and cliffs are no longer "hazards" but a solid base for snow to form a jump on. Chutes are not scary but a way of deterring the scared away from the beautiful powder pockets awaiting you at the bottom.

No one can tell you how long until you get comfortable in the crazy stuff, you may be ready right now to start learning! I rode for 18 years in Ontario, Quebec, Vermont, New Hampshire, and once at Fernie before I finally moved here. So I was lucky enough to gradually build up to this kind of terrain.

Your learning curve will be steeper, but my GF is riding shit like this now without hesitation, after two full seasons in the Canadian Rockies:




THIS is your playground:

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A good place to practice avoiding "hazards" with a few nice lips and rollers is heading down the middle from the standish chair and cutting through the little patch of sparse trees, then you come down a little steep bank on the right before going over the hill and merging with the other runs.
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