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Hi guys,

emerging from my other thread where I got discouraged from getting the T.Rice and with my girlfriend jumping in wanting a new board as well I am now looking for two boards, hoping for your help:

Riding (both): All-Mountain & Powder (50/50 powder & grooms). Not extremely technical or steep, but we are traveling in order to do powder. Nice if some fakie is possible e.g. after a jump in the powder or so.

Physics:
1: 75kg (165lbs), 185 cm (6'1''), EU43 (US9 men) shoes
2: 60kg (130lbs), 175 cm (5'9''), EU39 (US8.5 women) shoes
hope that makes sense, I am bad with US metrics

Previous boards:
1: Been riding a lot of hired boards last couple of years, so n/a on that
2: She had some Ride 155cm which she finds a little unstable/short and thus wants replaced

Since we are located in Sweden, accessibility is somewhat limited and bigger brands are easier to get.

So far I was recommended the Burton Sherlock which looked good - here I'd need a size suggestion: 157 or 160.

I hope to get some more suggestions especially for my girlfriend but also for me. Can we just take the same board in 2 different sizes or should she get a "Women's board"?

Thanks so much!
Andreas
 

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A woman's board will be generally a little softer flex than a men's board of the same model.

My standard recommendation for women all mtn are gnu ladies choice or b-pro...very similar but the b-pro is stiffer...for charging. For your gf's weight...148-152...155 for deep pow +30 cm days.
 

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thanks! looks like the gnu women's boards seem difficult to find in SE, DE, or UK. Any more ideas?
 

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Alright. More googling & browsing the forum reveals:

> Rossi Experience / Krypto MagTek
> Burton Sherlock
> Burton Custom Flying V
> Lib Tech TRS

With the TRS probably being least powdery and the Sherlock worst on ice; do I read the internet correctly?
 

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Read already quite a bit about the Farah. It seems discontinued though and the 2013 are really difficult to get over here :-/.
 

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What do you guys think is the right sizes for us?

She felt her 155 was a little unstable.

I am right now looking into the Sherlock: 157 or 160?
 

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Ride Berzerker, Highlife for you.
Ride Farah for your gf.
The Farah is discontinued for '14, but you might find a nice deal for the '13 one. I bought the Ride Farah 153 (which is the longest) at the very end of the last season. I've spent three days on it, so I can give only limited info, but since there are not too many girls around here, it's maybe better than nothing :dunno: I'm not a board hunter-gatherer; I buy one and ride it several years, so I've only owned a limited number of boards, and among them was only one other women's board.

I've +/- the same stats as your gf. I bought the Farah as my afternoon crud/mogul board but I ended up riding it mostly off-piste since we've been extremely lucky at those last days of the season: it was snowing every night and the resort was pretty empty, gosh, we've been the only ones to destroy all the fresh, all other ppl gathered on groomers. So my memories of the Farah might be a bit biased (pow-woozy), I really liked the board a lot.
I've actually only done three things with the Farah: Jump off the chair, hit a mogul run to get to the sc entry, ride 1000m vertical fresh, get back to the groomer and bomb this straight to get back to the chair as fast as possible. So this makes for three observations: Riding moguls with the Farah was fun! It’s easy to steer and dampens bumps if you happen to lose rhythm. It’s also pretty light and forgiving; fun to jump some moguls, since it won't kill you if you land akwardly between bumps. We had about 20cm at the most in those days. In this amount, it did a very good job on centered (in terms of inserts) stances. On a rather flat part of the fresh, it still floated nicely and I had not to lean back to stay atop. No idea how it performs in deep. Straight lining it on groomers, it was pretty stable. I tend to like boards that are long/stiff since my most important prerequisite is stability (I get easily irritated and don’t dare to ride anymore if a board isn't stable). Although the Farah is rather short, it was stable and I trusted it.

I'm a super dummy riding switch, so I can' comment if it’s particularly good at fakie/switch. What I can say is that when I did try, riding the wrong :)D) direction was pretty easy compared to my other board.


 

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Hey! Thanks for the great contributions. Sounds like a great board from what you describe. I also noticed it's discontinued... will check if there is any available with shipping to SE. Thanks a ton!
 

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Great switch riding capability and great powder performance really don't go hand in hand. If I were you, I'd just be looking at all-mountain boards that suit your riding preferences near home. If you're having to plan trips to find powder, take your board and if you get a really nice powder day, then demo a pow stick. That'd be my plan.
 

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I ride the Farah as well 2012 model in a 144 which is about what I usually ride but according to Ride chart on that board is too small for my weight (board rides long?) but I feel very stable on that board with minimal chatter. It is a directional board meant for freeridin' but I hit some little 10 and 20 foot kickers with it and it had hella pop and made super confident. Did not have any difficulty riding switch like I do with my directional trad cambered plank. Had more flex than I expected since was touted as an "advanced" board but made it easy to turn yet held a solid edge to carve. I rode it at end of season in spring slush where I was riding over puddles and it is fast also. Very light and thin board. Ride now has a Hellcat which seems to replace the Farah and borrows a lot of the tech and has new popwalls but is a true twin and new for this year.

Even tho your girl feels she has outgrown her length of board and it does seem to be hard to find girl boards over 155 I would not suggest going to men's with her size of feet being 8.5. Her weight and height might say a men's board will be okay but it probably will be wider and harder to control. I would suggest looking for a stiff women's freeride board like the B pro/NS Lotus where that length is stable and designed for hard ridin'.
 

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Great switch riding capability and great powder performance really don't go hand in hand. If I were you, I'd just be looking at all-mountain boards that suit your riding preferences near home. If you're having to plan trips to find powder, take your board and if you get a really nice powder day, then demo a pow stick. That'd be my plan.
I don't think switch riding was a particular ask/requirement of the OP. Or was that in response to neni's review?

EDIT: My bad, missed the part about "some fakie is possible e.g. after a jump in the powder or so" - always throws me off when people say fakie but actually mean switch...
 

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if some fakie is possible e.g. after a jump in the powder or so.
I don't think switch riding was a particular ask/requirement of the OP. Or was that in response to neni's review?
Andreas, could you elaborate on the switch part? Further recommendations you get might depend on how important this is for you.
 

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Even tho your girl feels she has outgrown her length of board and it does seem to be hard to find girl boards over 155 I would not suggest going to men's with her size of feet being 8.5. Her weight and height might say a men's board will be okay but it probably will be wider and harder to control. I would suggest looking for a stiff women's freeride board like the B pro/NS Lotus where that length is stable and designed for hard ridin'.
Hmmm... I'd say, what's wide and what not depends on your stance and angles :dunno: e.g. I did demo the 157 Burton Sherlock, 156 Rome Agent (the trad camber), 155 Ride Highlife and my board is a 158 Jones Flagship. All of them men's boards, all of them have ww of around 25cm; I had no issue to find my sweet stance on them and none felt hard to turn. The women's 153 Farah and 148 Salomon Idol (both around ww 24cm) are tight but work as well, but with a 146 NS Raven (23.4ww) it was hopeless to fix the bindings in a comfortable position. So a very personal thing...
I wouldn't exclude men's boards per se, just concentrate on those which have a width she feels comfortable with.

BTW: OP, the Idol was pretty stable. I've no other comments since I've just used it on blacks to test if it chatters while straight lining. Maybe it's worth to check some reviews on that one.
 

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Andreas, could you elaborate on the switch part? Further recommendations you get might depend on how important this is for you.
Hehe, sorry about switch vs. fakie.

Well, to be honest: In the past I practically didn't ride switch at all, partly because switch didnt feel comfortable the way I had my bindings.

For the future, the reason why I figured switch was interesting is because a 360 sometimes takes to long and 180 is an option to be slightly more playful than just doing an indy-grab ;).

However, regarding importance I can live without great switch-capabilities if it improves the general riding experience.

Thanks for helping!
 
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