[boarder22ab]

Hey guys im looking to get a new set of bindings and its between the burton cartels and malvitas. I mainly just freeride on groomers and hardpack. I want something that is responsive and not too flexible, but I also ride 8 hours straight when i board so comfort is a major factor also. What would you guys recomend? Also i have size11 white collection boots that have shrinkage tech so should i go with mediums or larges? Thanks

 

[ARSENALFAN]

Malvitas if you want the back of your boots to last and not wear out. If your not concerned, the Cartels.

 

[kctahoe]

I have both, cartels felt a little softer, I love my malavitas! So comfy ride from park to groomers, to riding blacks. Their so comfy I forget I'm strapped in, I never have to think about them all day, I usually ride 6-8 hours a day too.

 

[boarder22ab]

Ok well as far as size go, should i go for mediums or larges with an 11 boot with shrinkage? Im currently riding larges but maybe sizing down would be a better option?

 

[StrattonRider]

i would still get large. if you can get the malavitas with the wings.

 

[Basti]

Ok well as far as size go, should i go for mediums or larges with an 11 boot with shrinkage? Im currently riding larges but maybe sizing down would be a better option?

Definitely the large. Even if you can fit your boots in a medium the toe ramp will be way too short.

 

[Rufus]

Mediums are a good fit with size 11 Burton boots.

 

[boarder22ab]

Ok well i think i can get the malavitas new in medium for about $200, but larges i cant really find anywhere other than retail for $260. Would the mediums be so small that its not even worth the $60 savings?

 

[CJR]

Vitas 100%. Most comfortable binding I've ever ridden.

 

[Jason]

Malvitas if you want the back of your boots to last and not wear out. If your not concerned, the Cartels.

Cartels wore the back off your boots out? What kind of boots?

 

[BurtonBindings]

Get size Medium.
Trust me.

 

[MarshallV82]

Get size Medium.
Trust me.

I'd have to agree, my M Cartels fit my size 11 K2's just fine.

 

[Basti]

Get size Medium.
Trust me.

That seems to be the consensus here. I could hardly fit my size 11 Nikes in a medium Malavita on max strap settings, let alone adjust the footbed appropriately.

Sorry OP. Judging by the other responses I seem to be wrong here. But for me the medium didn't work at all.

 

[BurtonBindings]

Right.
the first year of Nike boots had very large outsoles and barely fit into bindings. They've since adjusted.

Burton boots in Burton Bindings fit on the high end of our size chart, size for size. Some other brands do too, but that's why our binding size chart says Medium goes from size 8-11 US Mens and Large goes from 10 - 15 US Mens.

That overlap between medium and large is a buffer for the variety of dimensions in the market from other brands.

If you're even in doubt, physically check the fit in a store. Kinda like buying pants.

 

[Basti]

Right.
the first year of Nike boots had very large outsoles and barely fit into bindings. They've since adjusted.

That explains it. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[Supra]

Malvitas if you want the back of your boots to last and not wear out. If your not concerned, the Cartels.

If you had read his post you would have seen that he has Burton boots, so your overgeneralization is invalid here

 

[boarder22ab]

Alright guys thanks for all the help. Medium malavitas it will be

 

[threej21]

what about a sz 12 Burton Ambush boot? Medium or Large? i would expect Large but now im wondering...


also, what is the general consensus on stiffness of '13 vita vs '13 cartel??

im hearing/seeing mixed reviews...


I am all mtn freestyle, with emphasis on freestyle...the whole mtn is a park!

vitas or cartels?

 

[SimonB]

Got the exact same boot in size 12.

Demo'd the Cartel in large and Malavitas in medium (no large available). The medium were maxed out and barely fitting and not fun.

I'd go large.

Plus if you ever change boots you'll be safe that the bindings will still fit.

 

[BigmountainVMD]

FWIW, I had a pair of Medium Burton CO2s and while I could fit my size 10 Ions and 10.5 Driver Xs in, I found there was a fair bit of squeezing going on on the sides of the boot. It was enough to make me switch to larges.

Just food for thought.