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2022/2023/2024 Snowboards Hype & Disappointment Thread

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It is that time of the year. Next year's catalogs are coming out.

Zuzupopo starting to upload some already, there are a few extra catalogs of Burton and Capita at EZloungin (which I probably shouldn't just copy-paste links here without permission)

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Actually stoked that the Nidecker Alpha and the KaonX still have the same graphic next year as I was too broke to justify spending money on snowboard stuff. Hopefully next year.
I need to pick up a dancehaul before they make it yellow, just like the look of this years board better. Surprised some well liked women's boards were dropped and not replaced. Niche dropped the Ember, and Solomon dropped the Pillow Talk.
Combined with the Pyre. Goes down to a 40
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It looks like they just added sizes in the Pyre for Niche and Salomon may be seeing more sales in Dancehauls and other boards. There's a def trend toward unisex boards.
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Love the look of the new Jones Mind Expander
The whole Christenson line looks real good
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What do yall think about Mind Expander adding camber and bringing inserts front? I think it's a wrong move.
Curious. I haven’t been able to get on the Ultra ME, but I was never a fan of the ME outside of straight pow. Not a fan of how the contact points drove. Maybe camber, and hopefully a little lighter flex with it, will make that better. I’ll try to get on one, that shape has SO much potential.
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Link to the new burton catalog?
Never really links to that. Burton keeps their digital catalogue pretty under wraps. Just gonna have to go to the underbelly of the Internet at Ez to see what gets posted.
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The more I think about Nidecker finally doing some splits, the more I disappointed there is no Mellow split...

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I'm on board with this thought, for sure. Prime shape for a split.
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Is there a big market for all mountain freestyle splits? I have been debating picking one up, but would lean more towards big mountain/powder.
I mean there is something to be said about riding what you know, but I generally don't get the draw to a twin or even directional twin split. Unless you just have to be able to slam it switch in the back country then great. But if you're like sessioning a jump in the BC, wouldn't you want a sled instead of a split anyhow? Sure, money is a thing and splits are cheaper than a sled, but like...
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The Peace Seeker has a bi-radial sidecut that I think I'd have to try before buying. It's an impossibly tiny 4.5m at the tips and a bigger but still small 7.5m in the center. I wonder how that feels. Should be good in hardpack trees- conditions I rarely ever experience personally.
I have not ridden it, but haven't heard anything bad yet about it. And Chilton is one of the better board engineers out there, especially with sidecut wizadry. He made the Warpig and the Timeless work.
The Deep Fake might be interesting…

(and I like black)
My info says it's a callback to the Berzerker before the most current redesign. So similar feel but a deeper sidecut from what I was told.
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Right. It's hard to compare as there is often a lot of fancy shit going on shape wise that, alone, tells you really very little. As the composite layup and camber positioning can have an impact on where you put pressure into the sidecut throughout a turn.

A tighter sidecut can get you into a turn quicker, then if it degresses into the center it will stay stable at slower speeds and allow for higher board angles with less turn, effectively the feeling of the new Zerker.
Think they’re getting discontinued.

The 2023/2023 K2 bindings line is missing some familiar faces. Classic bindings like the Lien AT and Line Up will sing their swan song as K2 introduces the Path, Albany, and Network for women and the Program, Edition, and Bond unisex bindings. The majority of the new bindings are freestyle-inclined but the Path and the Program are ultra stiff and ready for freeride objectives.

Will be looking forward to sniping some close out sales!
TriPod frames are no more for 23/24. That is correct. Get them while you can.
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I heard Burton is discontinuing the Malavitas :(
Unless they moved them into a more exclusive line that isn't shown to the masses of stores, I can confirm this. Burton is treading water in my opinion. It feels like they have put ALL their effort into Step-On and nothing else. They just feel super stale. Just axed one of their most successful bindings for.... why? Their whole line needs a refresh. Like everything. Anon and most of AK are solid, maybe some gloves, a few random other softgood pieces, that's about it. Their entire hardgoods line is starting to feel dated.
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Even Family Tree at this point feels like throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks.
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I do wish some of the ft boards stayed around for more than a season, the marketing material always looks good but by the time actual reviews materialize the good ones are gone. Always a shot in the dark with ft. I still wonder if I missed out on the speed date
Totally. Like I was a big fan of the OG Trick Pony. Then they fukced it by changing the tips, making it directional twin, and throwing an extra shitty version of PurePop on it. When the Name Dropper was flat it was one of the best jib decks available. Fukced it up by putting purepop on it. They consistently keep making the twin/purepop Custom a limited release. Could be a smash hit for their line, or, you know, make a reg custom in Pure Pop. They put a fukc ton of marketing effort behind the Flight Attendant, one of the worst boards to make it out of Family Tree, when that same level of effort SHOULD have been behind maybe the Deep Thinker? Cartographer? Hometown Hero? All better than the FA. Shit, FT should have pushed boards like the Stun Gun, Cheetah, Sensei, Con Artist, Speed Freak, SkipJack, Juice Wagon, Cloud Splitter, Branch Manager, Landlord, Tough Cat.... am I making my point? Angry said it best on the Live Chat yesterday, Burton sells boards to people that buy snowboards. Like they market to the group of snowboarders who buy snowboards, like that's their snowboard identity, that they bought a their own snowboard. And yeah if you bought a Burton and like it that's fine, I have over the years and been a fan. Loved the FlyingV Barraduda, had a Free Thinker, solid, had an OG Trick Pony, super fun, Sensei was sick... Bindings are, fine. That's it for me, their just fine. Same for the boots. They have some good stuff, some not so good stuff, some stuff that is 5 years behind. Oh but they have StepOn Split now!!! Yay!!! Cause the average person that is riding StepOn is definitely who I want in the backcountry. Talked about it recently and it was kind of nice when to split, you had to cut your own board and add your own inserts. Anyone putting that level of effort into BC gear, would also likely put that level of effort into being educated and riding smart.

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Wonder why? Honestly I like them on my Lien AT. It works.

Is it because lack of support from buyers to buy them because septicism?

And to be honest,for the price they are, I prefer them over my 2020 Cartel.

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They forgot how to market them. The new shit does look very well dialed. Super clean. I wish they would have just dropped the Lineups, and moved the Lien AT down the line to like the $250 pricepoint and compete directly with Strata. But oh well. Shit happens. Plenty of good product has been axed over the years for bad positioning or lack of understanding.
It's a strategic and slow rollout. That's a maybe for 2025 if the demand and success of the binding continues.
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These modern reissues are the best thing Burton is doing. Now just make me a reissue Supermodel, Root, or Se7en and I’ll be happy. A reissue dominant would be sick too. Fuck it, Burton needs to just reshape themselves into a retro brand. They haven’t done anything all that great, except for a couple of Kilroy boards and couple of pow options, in like a decade.
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Yeah channel seems to have issues with some bindings or minidiscs.
The only mini-discs that I've seen people have issues with are Union myself. I haven't personally seen any issues with Rome, Ride, K2, or Nitro for instance.
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