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I have always hated heights but I am a thrill seeker which is kind of interesting. I even hate roller coasters and bitch through the whole line but once I am on them I love it and want to go on it again.

I have invested a lot of money into Snowboarding and I just want to hit the slopes every day! My only problem is I HATE heights and the declines on some of the trails freak me out. I just got over my fear of some of the bunny hills.

How similar are bunny hills and green trails like lets say sunbowl and coolmor at camelback. I also hate the lifts lol I always freak out on there to everyones amusement.

Any advice? tips?
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She just rolled her eyes and shook her head and said, "it fucking figures". She is convinced that I somehow coerced Vince into it just to torture her.
So your wife has a phobia of snakes, AND thinks her husband is conspiring with an international snowboard company to mess with her? We should coin a new phobia for that.
 

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I have tried to "desensitize" her by exposing her to snakes but had to give this up as my food began to have a strange almond taste that brought on a strange tiredness......
wait...she was poisoning you?
 

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I think everyone has a fear of heights to an extent, no one wants to fall off a cliff, but in others it causes a panic reflex that they can't just "get over it". Since you (OP) like roller coasters I'm guessing it's not the real bad fear of heights. Almost everyone riding a large coaster for the first time has some fear, it's normal (I live about an hour away from Cedar Point so I see it alot while I'm there). With the fear of declines, it's probably something to do with the fear of not being able to stop if you fall or the fear of going too fast. It's normal, and that's why you see beginners tense up and fall when they go past their comfort speed. Unless you're riding backcoutry stuff, there's really nothing to worry about with the steeper slopes.

Your first post really summed it up though, you said you just got over your fear of bunny hills, that means you made progress. The same thing is going to happen with the intermediate trails, and eventually, the blacks. I remember when I was younger seeing the start of the black diamond trails from the top, it looks like just a drop off because you're viewing it as a horizon.

I have tried to "desensitize" her by exposing her to snakes but had to give this up as my food began to have a strange almond taste that brought on a strange tiredness......
I lol'd at this. My ex girlfriend had a horrible fear of spiders, I mean fear--->anger---->yelling. I've never seen someone travel such a distance from just 2 steps before, honestly it had to be some kind of world record. "there's a SPIDER over there!!! (points angrily)
 

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I think everyone has a fear of heights to an extent, no one wants to fall off a cliff, but in others it causes a panic reflex that they can't just "get over it". Since you (OP) like roller coasters I'm guessing it's not the real bad fear of heights.
in his first post he says he just got over his fear of the bunny hill...that seems a bit extreme.
My only problem is I HATE heights and the declines on some of the trails freak me out. I just got over my fear of some of the bunny hills.
OP, do have a fear of FALLING and getting hurt or the actual height/steepness of the trail. To me that seems more logical in this case. If you were to just stand/walk up the scary hill in question say, during the summer on a hike, would you be equally as scared?
 

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The decline makes me FEEL like if I fall I am going to be rolling quite far and will get hurt pretty bad. Also I don't know how to carve yet I can turn but can't really slow myself down much doing that so I am obviously scared.

The bunny hill I guess is not really a bunny hill but a trail in itself although short that I have been on...According to the guy who works at the hill station there is only a little more decline on the real green trails and that I am okay enough to give them a try.
 

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OP,

Everything you write suggests that you are just not ready to be on anything steeper than the small hill you describe.

Your anxiety stems from your inexperience. I distinctly remember having that same fear years ago, but I quickly attributed it to the fact that I could not link turns and control my speed at such a steep pitch.

Once I improved, my confidence grew and the fear went away( on that hill). I still look down and get anxious, but its on steeper terrain than before. Get it?

As for the lift, I feel anxious nearly everytime I get on one. I have a fear of heights. I have found that riding the lift with a friend, or even talking to some random on the chair with me helps.

As said before too, do not look out too far. I focus down or on someone or my gear. I always hang on too, even when there is a ski bar.
 

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The decline makes me FEEL like if I fall I am going to be rolling quite far and will get hurt pretty bad. Also I don't know how to carve yet I can turn but can't really slow myself down much doing that so I am obviously scared.
Its relative, I was on the bunny hill for far too long and then a skier friend took me on the tour down a double black chute that I did heelside on my butt...however after that...I didn't die and the blues and greens looked much more manageable.
 

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The decline makes me FEEL like if I fall I am going to be rolling quite far and will get hurt pretty bad. Also I don't know how to carve yet I can turn but can't really slow myself down much doing that so I am obviously scared.

The bunny hill I guess is not really a bunny hill but a trail in itself although short that I have been on...According to the guy who works at the hill station there is only a little more decline on the real green trails and that I am okay enough to give them a try.
go take a lesson. period. that is the best way to learn this sport of you are just starting out.
 

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She just rolled her eyes and shook her head and said, "it fucking figures". She is convinced that I somehow coerced Vince into it just to torture her.
Haha. Considering your attempts to desensitize her (AND putting a rubber snake in the bed), I can understand her suspiscion! :laugh: You might want to consider take-out if you ever have Vince over for dinner ;)

She'd most likely hate my board, especially with its snakeskin textured top sheet!:
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Hahaha. Here, show her this picture. I have had this thing as a "pet" for about 3 months now. It is either a Giant Brown Garden Spider or a very venomous Hobo Spider. I really cannot positively identify it. Found this beastie in the wood pile in the back yard. We nicknamed her "Shelob" from the Lord of the Rings...:laugh: She is living high on the hog feasting on fat juicy crickets that I buy for our frogs we have in a tank. She is about the size of a half dollar. It is really creepy to watch how fast she can move to sting a cricket. Then she sucks all its innards out....:eek:

The wife HATES the fact that this thing is on our kitchen counter....:laugh:



That statement made me laugh..."our pet, it can either kill us, or not." :laugh:

Incredible pics, though! The web is amazing!
 

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Once I learn to link my turns better and more aggressively I will go on a green trail and hopefully not die. I think I am just going to have to close my eyes and just go! Just hope I don't do the newbie lean back panic and end up on my back.:D

I wish I felt better on the lifts though...I heard a lot of people never get over it.

I was such a bitch the first time I went with my ex-girlfriend. Literally grabbed onto anything I could for dear life while she trolled me the whole way up. Needless to say thats why I dumped her...:thumbsup:

I went alone the other day and didn't panic as much though which I guess is good but I swear everytime the lift stopped my heart stopped lol

I hate the swinging of the lift chair too lol makes me feel like a powerful gust of wind will get me killed.

I might try a green trail this Saturday and let you guys know how I feel...

AND THANK YOU EVERYONE! SO MANY GREAT TIPS AND IDEAS IN THIS THREAD!
 

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im going to chip on this.

rule #1 don't try to rationalize your anxiety (it's because of this/that/whatever). Heres the truth EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE has an irrational fear about something. Everyone I know has a some sort of fear, whatever it maybe (needles,bees,spiders,snakes,sharks...etc) This is human nature, we all have an irrational fear. There is no reason to fight it, but more so the reason to accept it. Remember this, the more you resist the more it will persist.

Anxiety is a normal part of human existence, it only becomes a disorder when it interferes with your daily life to the point that you change your normal behavior (you create safety behavior, avoidance...etc). Try to resist the urge to create safety, the way you deal with anxiety is simply put, you just do it. This is called exposure and in a while you will become more and more desensitized to the situation and as well as the experience.

Don't listen to people who say "just get over it" or "grow some balls". These are the most annoying and insulting things that people who are not aware of anxiety disorders and how they work can say, this is almost as stupid is saying "get over it" to your allergies. Your body is having an physiological reaction and it takes skill and a decent amount of practice to be able to let go your mind in such a way that you don't always seek to control the situation with your thoughts.

How do I know? Last year I became agoraphobic, lost my job and my gf (couldn't get out of my house). I am now riding almost every weekend in different areas each time, sit on a lift (although still uncomfortable). Have a job, have a new gf and just living my life. It took me 5 years to realize what I've been doing wrong and that's trying to figure out why I have this anxiety instead of just accepting it as part of my life and moving on.

Get out there, take it easy, continue to do things that you enjoy in life. Never let anxiety dictate what it thinks you should or shouldn't do.
 

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On a similar note, my wife has a totally irrational fear of snakes. Not a healthy, natural fear of venomous ones, a total freak out over the top reaction to even a harmless garter snake. I have a screen saver of the desert southwest and one of the pictures is a huge coiled up Western Diamondback. That screen saver came up and she literally freaked out and jumped away from the computer. I have tried to "desensitize" her by exposing her to snakes but had to give this up as my food began to have a strange almond taste that brought on a strange tiredness......
My wife has the same fear and it has only gotten worse as the years have gone on. Major freak out at any image, TV, pictures, fake, real... it is crazy and sometimes brings her to tears. The "desensitize" game would not fly with her one bit.
 

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My wife has the same fear and it has only gotten worse as the years have gone on. Major freak out at any image, TV, pictures, fake, real... it is crazy and sometimes brings her to tears. The "desensitize" game would not fly with her one bit.
Actually it would, no matter how much crying she does, eventually her mind will realize that nothing is actually happening to her. There is a therapist in Manhattan, NY who specializes in elevator phobia. He owns the buildings elevators and he makes his clients get on these elevators and then he gets them stuck (obviously after a gradual exposure technique, such as first stepping into the elevator, then moving one floor..etc). No matter how much the clients panic, cry, curse, bang on the doors, press the emergency buttons, try to make him to let them out...he doesn't. After a little bit, their bodies calm down and they do the whole experience all over again, and again, and again. It takes months, but its a VALID and scientifically proven technique. Of course flooding (making the person just "jump into the fire" type of thing) is much more painful than gradual, but any type of exposure works.
 

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Actually it would, no matter how much crying she does, eventually her mind will realize that nothing is actually happening to her. There is a therapist in Manhattan, NY who specializes in elevator phobia. He owns the buildings elevators and he makes his clients get on these elevators and then he gets them stuck (obviously after a gradual exposure technique, such as first stepping into the elevator, then moving one floor..etc). No matter how much the clients panic, cry, curse, bang on the doors, press the emergency buttons, try to make him to let them out...he doesn't. After a little bit, their bodies calm down and they do the whole experience all over again, and again, and again. It takes months, but its a VALID and scientifically proven technique. Of course flooding (making the person just "jump into the fire" type of thing) is much more painful than gradual, but any type of exposure works.
Ha, I should have been more clear.. I meant me playing that game with her. I keep recommending a visit to the therapist!
 

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Maybe you could move to Alaska. There are no snakes (wild) in the state of Alaska....:D
oh ya, thats a plus. no snakes...only 1000 other things that can kill you.
 

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I set it at +21° on the front and +6° in the back

I am rocking 20 inches...I might have to adjust once I get to the slopes.





I just noticed the girl on my board has a nip slip...inb4ban
 

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Visualize success and mastery of the descents. Try not to cloud your mind with ideas and/or images that portray you in a broken heap at the bottom. pick your line and believe in yourself...you'd be surprised how much this helps.
 
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