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I am looking for a hybrid camber all mountain freestyle board. I ride jumps, rails, and every part of the mountain. I like using natural features. I am currently between the GNU Altered Genetics and the Lib Tech Banana Magic. Does anyone have any input on either?
 

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Hey all,
I am looking for a hybrid camber all mountain freestyle board. I ride jumps, rails, and every part of the mountain. I like using natural features. I am currently between the GNU Altered Genetics and the Lib Tech Banana Magic. Does anyone have any input on either?

I would look at the TRS and the Riders Choice as well. A little softer than the magic which should help in the park, but they both can still handle the rest of the mountain.
 

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Both overpriced.

Other than magne, which in my opinion is too much anyway, the Forum Destroyer Doubledog is just as good and at least $100 cheaper if you just have to have RC. Also there is the Flow Era which in my experience the sidecut on this has the most grip out of anything without specially designed gripping tech. Cheaper still than the Doubledog too.

Other fantastic all mountain capable park decks are the Nitro Rook, 2013 Signal OG Flat, Rome Reverb Rocker, Arbor Westmark/Blacklist, Bataleon ET or Whatever, Burton Joystick or Hero.
 

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Both overpriced.

Other than magne, which in my opinion is too much anyway, the Forum Destroyer Doubledog is just as good and at least $100 cheaper if you just have to have RC. Also there is the Flow Era which in my experience the sidecut on this has the most grip out of anything without specially designed gripping tech. Cheaper still than the Doubledog too.

Other fantastic all mountain capable park decks are the Nitro Rook, 2013 Signal OG Flat, Rome Reverb Rocker, Arbor Westmark/Blacklist, Bataleon ET or Whatever, Burton Joystick or Hero.
I forgot that I ride the icy east so I'm really looking for high traction. I have a ride Antic and really hate the flat base. The rider's choice looks rad though, I might pick one up this summer.
 

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I am starting to sound like a shill but look at Smokin'. The Buck Ferton and Superpark both have RC and magne-traction. Better bases and warranty on them than the Mervin boards too.
 

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I am starting to sound like a shill but look at Smokin'. The Buck Ferton and Superpark both have RC and magne-traction. Better bases and warranty on them than the Mervin boards too.
I didn't even think about Smokin' but the superpark looks perfect for me. I'm gonna try to find one cheap after season.
 

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Same board Nivek? Come on....the dampening and feel of the C2 vs double dog alone is night and day different. I've ridden the Forum DD Destroyer. Very fun board, but be prepared. This thing feels everything. For better or worse. Afternoon chop, and you'll hate this board. It definitely is fun. Not too squirely, despite more pronounced rocker zones. Pretty good pop. But I was lucky enough to catch a day with fairly heavy chop in the afternoon at the top of the mountain, and ice at the bottom, and this board was average at best with both conditions. Borderline bad with dampening.

If all you do is play in the park, ride fresh snow, or morning groomers....good board to look at. If you have any desire to drop in bowls, ride aggressive steeps, and hit runs hard still in the afternoon, this isn't your board.
 

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Well I rode it on a gnarly spring day at A-Basin with chopped out frozen old pow blocks. Did pretty well for me in the chop. Was it super damp? No, but since when do you want a PARK board to be super damp so you can't feel whats underneath you? I never would. To lose the feel of whats underneath you inhibits your fine adjustments on takeoff. Its great for an all mountain stick, but that's not the priority here.

Anyhow, that was just one of my list suggestions, and it was there if he really just has to have RC.

If were going to the dampening thing, I could just say... Evo.
 

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Yeah, but he said all mountain freestyle board, not park board. And if you thought park, why not suggest the forum young blood dd?

I liked the board. It was definitely fun. But it's really nothing close to the altered genetics or the banana magic
 

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Yeah, but he said all mountain freestyle board, not park board. And if you thought park, why not suggest the forum young blood dd?

I liked the board. It was definitely fun. But it's really nothing close to the altered genetics or the banana magic
The Youngblood is stiffer. So BOOOOOOOM

and to me all mountain freestyle mean versatile park board. If he had just said park I wouldn't have mentioned the Destoyer, or Forum at all probably.
 

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Well, Lib Tech isn't the only company with BS marketing as so many like to say, because Forum lists the Destroyer as a 5 on flex, and the Youngblood with a 4.

Maybe we can cross the marketing argument against Lib Tech off the list since it appears every company is guilty....
 

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Yeah when I said all mountain freestyle I meant freestyle on all parts of the mountain, not all mountain and freestyle.
 

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Well, Lib Tech isn't the only company with BS marketing as so many like to say, because Forum lists the Destroyer as a 5 on flex, and the Youngblood with a 4.

Maybe we can cross the marketing argument against Lib Tech off the list since it appears every company is guilty....
I didn't even mention marketing this time. Oh and clearly if two of the many many snowboard companies out there have some marketing "issues" that means they all do. Super.

Oh and not advertising flex right is far different than what Mervin does.
 

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I didn't even mention marketing this time. Oh and clearly if two of the many many snowboard companies out there have some marketing "issues" that means they all do. Super.

Oh and not advertising flex right is far different than what Mervin does.
Just out of curiosity what kind of things does Mervin misrepresent?
 

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Yeah when I said all mountain freestyle I meant freestyle on all parts of the mountain, not all mountain and freestyle.
It's funny how words and tech change over time, cause my old '95 Kemper Freestyle is a fairly narrow, stiff, cambered board. I spent a lot of time in the park with it in the 90's. Now everybody wants a wet noodle for tricks. :cheeky4:
 

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Just out of curiosity what kind of things does Mervin misrepresent?
It's not a misrepresentation issue i have with them. Its an over hype issue. They play this hype game to make it feel as though all other products are inferior to theres. When BTX hit the market in the first SB they claimed it was basically the end all be all of snowboards. Next year when they were still pushing that NS came out with RC. Year after that so did Mervin, then tried to get a patent on it. They dont tuck their edges then claim better durability. Its more common to pull that tucked edge out than it is to break your core with a head on collision. Which is where they "claim" better durablility. When really no edge on the tip leads to mangled noses and delams. They play to this whole made in the US is vastly superior and put forth this small company vibe, when they're owned by Quiksilver. I know what it takes to make a board in the US, they ddont need to charge $400 for a CC. The Signal Park has no less exotic or quality materials and a sintered base and is only $360. Where's the justification for that $40 price? BTX? A mold only costs so much and they've broken even by now with that one by now.

There's other stuff but there ya go for starters :)
 

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Well, Lib Tech isn't the only company with BS marketing as so many like to say, because Forum lists the Destroyer as a 5 on flex, and the Youngblood with a 4.

Maybe we can cross the marketing argument against Lib Tech off the list since it appears every company is guilty....
The people hating on Mervin on here really crack me up. They make great boards, they have (arguably) sick graphics, they've pioneered alot of tech over the years....they're one of the best in my book. Doesn't hurt that they're local either.
 

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Well I'm SHOCKED no one has mentioned Never Summer yet...but I would throw the Heritage into/onto your list. I was a Lib Tech guy going back to my 93/94 Matt Cummins but because of all the talk on here I tried the Heritage last year and I'm a convert. IMO the only area in which the Mervin boards are better than the Heritage is ice hold. Mangetraction is AWESOME on ice...but I find the Heritage to be more playful than the T.Rice I was riding before it...to me more of an all mountain/freestyle board.
 

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Well I'm SHOCKED no one has mentioned Never Summer yet...but I would throw the Heritage into/onto your list. I was a Lib Tech guy going back to my 93/94 Matt Cummins but because of all the talk on here I tried the Heritage last year and I'm a convert. IMO the only area in which the Mervin boards are better than the Heritage is ice hold. Mangetraction is AWESOME on ice...but I find the Heritage to be more playful than the T.Rice I was riding before it...to me more of an all mountain/freestyle board.
I have a Heritage and for the needs the op stated I think it would be too much board. A SL would be the NS all mountain board that would still be playful enough.
 
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