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So I’d say that the Surfari is a rad dad’s freeride board while I expect the Pentaquark to be a rad dad’s carving board. They must have left it biax for a reason while obviously their super stiff triax would be more appealing from the marketing’s point of view for that hefty 840 EUR price tag.
Everyone knows Jones already holds that title. Hovercraft, Flagship, the new Strata...
 

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Everyone knows Jones already holds that title. Hovercraft, Flagship, the new Strata...
I have a Flagship, and I'm looking for more. I'm not a fan of the magnetraction. I'd prefer fuller camber with less rocker. I have love for Jones, but my new Penta looks to be more purpose built for carving and speed than my Flagship.
 

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At 140lbs I feel like none of the boards in the centrifugal series’s are my size. ?
I am about your weight and I ride the older 159 UNW8 (biax/no antiphase) with no problems. As long as you are a strong rider, you shouldn't have many issues especially if you go for the 156.
 

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I am about your weight and I ride the older 159 UNW8 (biax/no antiphase) with no problems. As long as you are a strong rider, you shouldn't have many issues especially if you go for the 156.
I agree, if you are worried find a 156 biax, but I’ve given the triax 159 for a couple of runs to a 72 kg friend who is a crazy MF after 2 surgeries with an implant in the knee and he’s enjoyed it a lot Euro carving. The only problem is generating the pop as the tips are super stiff. There is some torsional give between the bindings so driving it edge-to-edge is actually easier than you’d expect from the flex feel but loading an ollie is hard. Knapton probably wouldn’t have a problem with his trunk legs and godlike technique at speed but for a mere mortal yes, it’s hard. I’ve been on mine new 159 5 days so far and I already feel the triax giving in a bit. If the tail softens up a bit or creates some flex point after the rear foot I’ll be happy. So far the tips are very close in stiffness to the Yes Optimistic’s stiffest part of the tail (maybe that’s how Yes rated it 9/10, as the rating of the stiffest part of the board?).
 

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I had an excellent bluebird groomer morning on the Pentaquark the other day. The edge grip was violent. Anti-phase keeps the whole nose eerily DAMP. Tons of acceleration, with so much control at speed. The same style carves I do on blues and greens are now seemingly accessible anywhere at any speed. I was laying down heelside carves like it was nothing, and wore a bit out of the seat of my pants. For all that grip, I found it pretty easy to break out of a carve into a hockey stop, which helped me feel safer with all that speed. I did duck into a hidden tree stash several times, and it reminded me of the old days. It's been a long time I had full camber in powder. Same rules apply- keep your nose up and hold speed. It felt good in there though. I was worried it wouldn't be nimble enough but it was fine. Jerries showed up and I had to retire the Penta around 11. The slopes were too crowded and I couldn't make myself ride it any less aggressively. I'm stoked on the Pentaquark! I rode it hard, and it has so much more to give. I'm looking forward to growing as a rider with this board.
 

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I had to retire the Penta around 11. The slopes were too crowded and I couldn't make myself ride it any less aggressively.
honestly that’s what is keeping me off this board, I dont like to switch out mid day and I always end up riding with the afternoon crowd. So it’s probably back to the Sims for me.
 

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honestly that’s what is keeping me off this board, I dont like to switch out mid day and I always end up riding with the afternoon crowd. So it’s probably back to the Sims for me.
Yeah, I'm wondering what to do about that. Maybe I'll leave another board in the car or something. I'm a little leery of leaving a board locked up at the resort. Perhaps if I used a bike lock... I've never looked into ski lockers, maybe that's a viable solution?
 

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Yeah, I'm wondering what to do about that. Maybe I'll leave another board in the car or something. I'm a little leery of leaving a board locked up at the resort. Perhaps if I used a bike lock... I've never looked into ski lockers, maybe that's a viable solution?
That’s what I started doing with the pantera. I get my turns in the morning then swap out to something a bit more playful. I lock up the other deck but still worry......
 

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I wanted to post my findings today after another day on these but unfortunately due to a late night change plan of one of my friends on the logistics (a new girl, he’s apparently not aware that such decisions are detrimental in a long run but whatever) I’ll miss my today’s shred.

Anyway, my take on my friend’s Surfari 157 (2018) and my new UNW8 159 (2020) at 85 kg, Adidas Tacticals ADV 10 US. Both with Katanas 2019, the ankle strap at the very top and a lot of forward lean. The binding angles + 24-18 / - 6 to -12.

The UNW8 in 159 (I sit at the top of the recommended weight) is still super stiff (but energetic), probably it will break in a bit but as for now I’d rate my UNW8s 159 2020 and 163 2019 as 9/10. I ride the 163 per reference stance, the 159 with a max setback (on reference I feel like the nose digs in/hooks too easily in the mix of slush and ice I’ve been exclusively riding for the past 3 weeks if I put too much weight on the front foot). They both rip super hard carves. The 159 is just more versatile with an 8-meter sidecut to dodge a Jerry while the 163 provides a better float in slush even without the setback and should have even better grip due to 4 cm longer effective edge (I haven’t felt it yet). I haven’t found a speed limit on either, it’s always me slowing down, not the board telling me to do so by chattering.

The Surfari 157 (biax glass) is softer. I’d give it 7/10 overall feel with a medium-stiff nose and a stiff tail.
They say it’s a camber with an early rise at the tips but it’s more of a back seat camber with plenty of rocker that starts just after the front binding.
Grips icy shit well (though the UNW8s do it even better) and is more user friendly due to the softer flex, especially torsionally. Obviously floats great in slush. You can charge hard but it has no problems with slowing down. It can wash out in a hard Euro if you don’t weight the tapered tail at the end of a carve but that’s on the rider. I’d say it feels semi locked-in, the UNW8 is a full lock-in to me. It has a nice rebound exiting the carve so you don’t have to work for that spring changing edges mid-air. For the flex reference I’d rate my Optimistic 154 2019 at my 85 kg as 7/10 as well (a bit stiffer tail than the Surfari in 157). I change to the Optimistic when it gets really crowded to carve around while keeping the float in slush. I can push it at the same time with its great grip. It’s my ’party’ board.

As the Pentaquark is also biax glass and similar weight to the Surfari (and lighter than the Unw8 for the same surface area) I think these two actually share more with each other than with the UNW8. If Amplid gave 8/10 stiffness to the Unw8 (triax and imo underrated flex) and 7/10 to the Surfari (biax, I agree with the flex), I’d expect the Pentaquark to actually sit in the middle, with the Unw8 being 9/10, the Penta 8/10 and the Surfari being 7/10.

So I’d say that the Surfari is a rad dad’s freeride board while I expect the Pentaquark to be a rad dad’s carving board. They must have left it biax for a reason while obviously their super stiff triax would be more appealing from the marketing’s point of view for that hefty 840 EUR price tag.

That’s my guess on the Penta but based on my experience with the two Centrifugals and @trpa_ec describing his previous model UNW8 (biax and lighter than mine) to be more comparable to what I feel riding the Surfari than my UNW8s.
Hi guys,

very interesting discussion and thanks everyone for your insights and sharing your experience with the different Amplid boards. As per my other thread I’m looking at alternatives to my Custom X I’m for hard charging/carving and am actually contemplating to give Amplid a try.

I’m a bit confused though with the Amplid website vs experience here. If I understand correctly the general experience seems to be that the unw8 is an even stiffer, little less versatile board (at least models with triax) whereas the Pentaquark seems to be a more of an all mountain board. The website says the opposite would be the case...?

I couldn’t find the effective edge lengths for both boards on the Amplid website, does anyone know these by any chance?

I’m 187cm, 77kg and on a 10.5US Ion at the moment. I have a Custom X in 162 and despite being somewhat below the recommended weight range I love the fact that the board with effective edge of 125.5cm feels it’s running on rails. I have tried the 158 version yesterday and also loved the feel but more for the fact that it’s more manoeuvrable and quicker edge to edge. At high speeds however it’s no where near the stable feeling I have with the 162 (4cm less effective edge seem to make a huge difference).

i was hoping to get a good mix with one of the Amplid boards and based on the website would have said the Pentaquark as pure carving and bombing machine would be the better fit but after reading this thread I’m thinking maybe the unw8 would be better?

Although based on the running length the 159 unw8 seems to have a shorter effective edge than the Pentaquark 158. With my specs and reviews above would be hesitant to go with the 163 unw8 which however would have same running length as the 158 Pentaquark...

so many questions and sorry for the confusion but would be great to hear your thoughts!

cheers
 

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Pentaquark is bomber and has a longer effective edge than you'd assume with the length. Unw8 I haven't ridden yet, but the triax will make it more torsionally stiff. You can ride the Penta switch but not as well as the unw8. Surfari is awesome too and def the best of the three in pow.
 

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I don’t really care about riding switch tbh so that wouldn’t make me decide for one or the other.

The triax and increased torsional stiffness will result in better/more stable ride?
 

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The Pentaquark is really stable at speed. If you're just looking to rip carves, that's the one I'd be looking at. I think the UNW8 is probably more all-mountain. The Pentaquark has handled the freeride I've thrown at it pretty well, but it really comes alive on the groomers. I'm happy with the feel of the biax. I think triax would have been too much. It's already demanding to ride. The edge hold is violent, and there isn't a speed limit.
 

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But I guess the difference on groomers between Pentaquark/Unw8 vs. Surfari is noticeable, isn't it? Have any of you done some more pow on either the Penta or the Unw8 as well as trees etc. and is either of them a bit quicker turning?

I basically have a dedicated pow board I can take on groomers too so am mainly looking for a board to rip on groomers but if there is some powder of course would be nice if the board wouldn't suck completely...

What worries me a bit is that a few of you have now mentioned (and actually Amplid themselves say so too) that the boards are not suitable for crowded slopes. Not a huge fan of changing my board during the day. Is it really that bad or are the boards agile enough to take small turns on the very side of the pistes? Guess the Unw8 has an advantage here due to smaller side cut.
 

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Nah they are fine on crowded slopes honestly. Surfari rails turns on groomers and is very confident at speed. If say the surfari is a bit of a different beast compared to a custom x for many reasons and the unw8 is probably more similar to a custom x, but probably a whole lot better (as I haven't yet ridden one).

I own a surfari and a Penta. If the snow conditions are more variable or we have or are expecting pow I'll take out the surfari, otherwise I'll take out the Penta and I've never switched out either during the day.
 

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With the crowded slopes, speed is more of a problem than agility. I feel like I'm bound to get my pass pulled for being that much faster than those around me. If you're in an area where people ride fast, you probably won't have a problem.

I've rode some powder and trees on the Pentaquark. It's full camber with as much of the nose cut off as possible- not an ideal powder ride. You've got to float the nose by leaning back. I do like the antiphase though. It was really nice through chopped up powder. I'd love to try a Surfari.
 

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Agree on speed. High 40s feels like your going 30 on another board... It's kind of like driving a Porsche on a busy commute, you can do it but it's just as much fun as empty streets.
 
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