[edi414]

Really depends what you have in your quiver and what boards you want to keep in it. You are in-between sizes.

@ridethecliche the codes are Frenzy350 or Frenzy200.

well, currently have the 159 UNW8 and a mullair apart from my 161 Millisurf.

been on a few tours now and thought the 161 Milli felt a bit long hence the initial idea to go 157.

you think they ride so differently? Assume the 161 more stable and 157 more nimble?

 

[WigMar]

That's a good deal!

I'm a little over the weight range on my Surfari 161. I've been very happy with it. It would be cool if they made a bigger one, but it still bombs. I think your assumptions on the sizing are correct.

Thankfully I got a 160 Pentaquark before they sized it down to a 158. I'm happy with that size.

 

[Yeahti87]

well, currently have the 159 UNW8 and a mullair apart from my 161 Millisurf.

been on a few tours now and thought the 161 Milli felt a bit long hence the initial idea to go 157.

you think they ride so differently? Assume the 161 more stable and 157 more nimble?

The Unw 159 will ‚outcarve’ the Surfari, even at 161 so yeah, it’s a matter of how nimble you want it to be.

That's a good deal!

I'm a little over the weight range on my Surfari 161. I've been very happy with it. It would be cool if they made a bigger one, but it still bombs. I think your assumptions on the sizing are correct.

Thankfully I got a 160 Pentaquark before they sized it down to a 158. I'm happy with that size.

I wanted to add an old 160 2018 Penta but my bud has just managed to do that. He has not ridden it yet but just told me it is much closer to flex in Surfari 157 2018 than to my Pentaquark 158 2020. I can’t wait to try the older Pentaquark.

I’m really happy with the new 158 Penta but at my 86-89 kg I’d love if they added another size like 163-164 with 9,3-9,5 m sidecut and ~135 cm EE.

I don’t think we need more splitboards/funky shapes at this moment.
More sizes in the top centrifugal collection (including real wides) is what we really need now.

 

[WigMar]

The Unw 159 will ‚outcarve’ the Surfari, even at 161 so yeah, it’s a matter of how nimble you want it to be.



I wanted to add an old 160 2018 Penta but my bud has just managed to do that. He has not ridden it yet but just told me it is much closer to flex in Surfari 157 2018 than to my Pentaquark 158 2020. I can’t wait to try the older Pentaquark.

I’m really happy with the new 158 Penta but at my 86-89 kg I’d love if they added another size like 163-164 with 9,3-9,5 m sidecut and ~135 cm EE.

Yeah, what's with their limited sizing? I'm 100 kg, and still enjoying things. However, I wouldn't mind if all my Amplids were a little bigger. A mid 160's Penta would grip!

 

[Yeahti87]

Yeah, what's with their limited sizing? I'm 100 kg, and still enjoying things. However, I wouldn't mind if all my Amplids were a little bigger. A mid 160's Penta would grip!

You could ride the Unw8/Penta up to 120 kg due to their stiffness imo. Yeah, it’s more about going crazy EE at mid 160s and some wides for the poor 12 US boot guys.

 

[edi414]

The Unw 159 will ‚outcarve’ the Surfari, even at 161 so yeah, it’s a matter of how nimble you want it to be.



I wanted to add an old 160 2018 Penta but my bud has just managed to do that. He has not ridden it yet but just told me it is much closer to flex in Surfari 157 2018 than to my Pentaquark 158 2020. I can’t wait to try the older Pentaquark.

I’m really happy with the new 158 Penta but at my 86-89 kg I’d love if they added another size like 163-164 with 9,3-9,5 m sidecut and ~135 cm EE.

I don’t think we need more splitboards/funky shapes at this moment.
More sizes in the top centrifugal collection (including real wides) is what we really need now.

What’s your view on carving abilities between the penta 158 and UNW8 159?

might go for the smaller Surfari then to have a more playful board. Stability at higher speeds similar or would I be sacrificing a lot with 157?

 

[Yeahti87]

What’s your view on carving abilities between the penta 158 and UNW8 159?

might go for the smaller Surfari then to have a more playful board. Stability at higher speeds similar or would I be sacrificing a lot with 157?

The difference is torsional stiffness (very stiff on Unw8 159/163 vs stiff on Penta 158) and the sidecut (close to 8 m on the Unw8s and 8,6 m on the Penta). It mostly depends on what kind of sidecuts you like. I prefer the longer ones lately (I just sized up my Korua CR 59 to 64 due to the sidecut mostly).

 

[jsil]

Update for those interested on Amplid Pentaquark 156 vs Amplid Pentaquark 158. I own a 156 (older size, different factory) and have friends with 158s. I was able to compare them this morning back to back and can report that there is a big difference in longitudinal flex, but not as much torsional stiffness between the two sizes. I have a Size 8.5 boot and I weigh 155lbs and the 156 flexed more like a Surfari and the 158 was a good bit stiffer. I'd say the 156 was a 7/10 and the 158 was a 9/10 at my weight range. The 156 was easier for me to launch out of carves and reduce my carving radius by manipulating the camber than the 158 was, but when you activated the 158 you had noticeably more pop out of turns. Both are great boards and I'd be hardpressed to say which I like more, but there is quite the difference between the two, much more than I would have expected.

Riders at 165/170+ weight would definitely like the new one better, which is probably why they changed it.

 

[WigMar]

Update for those interested on Amplid Pentaquark 156 vs Amplid Pentaquark 158. I own a 156 (older size, different factory) and have friends with 158s. I was able to compare them this morning back to back and can report that there is a big difference in longitudinal flex, but not as much torsional stiffness between the two sizes. I have a Size 8.5 boot and I weigh 155lbs and the 156 flexed more like a Surfari and the 158 was a good bit stiffer. I'd say the 156 was a 7/10 and the 158 was a 9/10 at my weight range. The 156 was easier for me to launch out of carves and reduce my carving radius by manipulating the camber than the 158 was, but when you activated the 158 you had noticeably more pop out of turns. Both are great boards and I'd be hardpressed to say which I like more, but there is quite the difference between the two, much more than I would have expected.

Riders at 165/170+ weight would definitely like the new one better, which is probably why they changed it.

I've got a 160 Penta. I'm pretty sure it was made at the old factory and is probably softer than the 158 is now. They used to offer two sizes, and now only offer one stiffer size. I think I'd rather have the 160 than a stiffer 158 anyway. I wonder how much of the flex change is due to the factory change.

 

[jsil]

I've got a 160 Penta. I'm pretty sure it was made at the old factory and is probably softer than the 158 is now. They used to offer two sizes, and now only offer one stiffer size. I think I'd rather have the 160 than a stiffer 158 anyway. I wonder how much of the flex change is due to the factory change.

Wigmar, I think a lot of it is the factory change, but the fact that they dropped from 2 sizes to 1 size may have to do with some design changes or just demand. Either way, I'm SURE that the 158 is stiffer than the older 160.

 

[bseracka]

A bit off topic but I’m hoping someone may have some insight for me. With all the amplid hype I’m really interested in picking up one of these boards to be a quiver pow stick. I’m torn between the 161 surfari and the Snommelier. There’s not much info on Snommelier so any thoughts help

 

[jsil]

If your only want to ride pow go for the snommelier, but if your want a board that slays groomers and chunder too, go for the Surfari.

 

[Yeahti87]

Bud has just scored old Penta 160 and the new Surfari 161 so at this moment the only centrifugal we don’t own is the old Unw8 version.

Most resorts are closed but there are some smaller ones that luckily decided to reopen with sanitary measures anyway so I had a chance to compare the old 160 Penta to my new 158 one, both on the Katanas, run by run without any tinkering. The conditions were softer snow with bumpy soft mounds. Yet to compare them on a wide nice groomed run. To put it into perspective, the old Penta 160 feels like 6,5-7/10 flex, the old Surfari 7/10, the new Surfari like 8/10 and the new Penta/Unw8 are at least 9/10, very close to true titanial BX boards, for sure much stiffer than ‚playful daily driver’ BX like SG Soul.

The old Penta couldn’t handle euro carves in these conditions, the nose folded too much. The new one feels like a tank, much more work out but it’s a fuckin bulldozer.

Bummed the don’t make a bigger size like 163. Just to boost the EE to the point where it would be comparable to BX boards’ absolute top grip on boilerplate ice. Past 9 m sidecut and a bit more width would make it a damn perfect board for me.

 

[edi414]

The difference is torsional stiffness (very stiff on Unw8 159/163 vs stiff on Penta 158) and the sidecut (close to 8 m on the Unw8s and 8,6 m on the Penta). It mostly depends on what kind of sidecuts you like. I prefer the longer ones lately (I just sized up my Korua CR 59 to 64 due to the sidecut mostly).

I had decided on the 157 Surfari. Had the first opportunity today to take it out and I have to say...wow! Amazing in any kind of conditions and I’m glad I have gone for the shorter version as it’s just that little more nimble.

I’ve got the 161 Millisurf and been on a few tours where the split is amazing with the longer length but without the uphill the 157 is just amazing. Super powerful in turns on piste and extremely stable at high speeds (someone mentioned they were surprised the anti phase actually worked - I can confirm it does!). Also went through some relatively deep stuff that was a mix of older/heavier and some wind-drifted snow. The surfari handled all conditions extremely well.

unw8 still waiting to be taken out

 

[Yeahti87]

I had decided on the 157 Surfari. Had the first opportunity today to take it out and I have to say...wow! Amazing in any kind of conditions and I’m glad I have gone for the shorter version as it’s just that little more nimble.

I’ve got the 161 Millisurf and been on a few tours where the split is amazing with the longer length but without the uphill the 157 is just amazing. Super powerful in turns on piste and extremely stable at high speeds (someone mentioned they were surprised the anti phase actually worked - I can confirm it does!). Also went through some relatively deep stuff that was a mix of older/heavier and some wind-drifted snow. The surfari handled all conditions extremely well.

unw8 still waiting to be taken out

Glad to hear that. I’ve tried the new Surfari 161 and it is indeed a great and predictable all condition ride but take that Unw8 for a ride next time. It’s a level up on piste. Much more work but you’ll experience what is a true rail in carving

 

[jsil]

Glad to hear that. I’ve tried the new Surfari 161 and it is indeed a great and predictable all condition ride but take that Unw8 for a ride next time. It’s a level up on piste. Much more work but you’ll experience what is a true rail in carving

And then take out the Pentaquark and step it up again hah

 

[The_Stigs]

FYI, the Playful/All Mountain group of boards is 40% off for the US right now. Having a hard time not picking up a Ticket Twin, Stereo, or Paradigma right now.

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[jsil]

FYI, the Playful/All Mountain group of boards is 40% off for the US right now. Having a hard time not picking up a Ticket Twin, Stereo, or Paradigma right now.

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Which boards do you already own?

 

[The_Stigs]

Just the Surfari 161 for now. Wife has the Lovelife 153

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[jsil]

For the least amount of overlap (and because you have two twins on your list), I'd go with the Stereo. Great board. No personal experience with the ticket twin, but I assume the stereo is just a bit more premium.

As for the Paradigma, if you could have only one Amplid board, that's probably the one to go with. But as you already have a groomer slayer / powder board in the Surfari, a twin will fill out the quiver. If you go for anything after that, I'd say a crazy powder shape (if you get enough pow to warrant it), or an unw8/pentaquark for maximum groomer destruction (depending on if you ride switch much).

Pentaquark (new model 158), Surfari and Stereo are a pretty nasty quiver.

I own:
156 Pentaquark (2018)
157 Surfari (2019)
156 UNW8 (2020)
155 Stereo (2020)
157 Surf Shuttle (2020)

Friends own:
158 Pentaquark (much stiffer than mine with less overlap w/the Surfari)
Aloha Vibes
Dada
Snommelier
Paradigma
Millisurf