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I’ll be taking the Surfari to NZ next week, second board is a toss up between the Party Platter and Dada, if it looks like more snow forecasted next week maybe I’ll throw the Dada in
I looked at the Surfari. Was after something a bit softer and less committed than my old Burton Custom-X, just for a change. So was after a Dada. Ended up with a Killswitch too 😮

Does the Surfari need space? How does it go in pow in tight trees? I'm guessing more traditional camber and stiffer than the Future Shapes lineup.

When I ran through the online Amplid board selector tool, it threw up the Surfari as my ideal board, so curious about it
 

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I looked at the Surfari. Was after something a bit softer and less committed than my old Burton Custom-X, just for a change. So was after a Dada. Ended up with a Killswitch too 😮

Does the Surfari need space? How does it go in pow in tight trees? I'm guessing more traditional camber and stiffer than the Future Shapes lineup.

When I ran through the online Amplid board selector tool, it threw up the Surfari as my ideal board, so curious about it
I got the 161 Surfari at 185lbs. It is more og an open terrain board for above the tree line/ start of the tree line. Works if there are trees, but not if it is tight and technical. I guess there will be some difference between the 57 and the 61, as the sidecut radius is 8m vs 8.4m. Might be that mine gets more nimble if it softens up after some more use, but for now I switch away from the Surfari to ride trees. But that said, it floats really good in pow and lets you ride really fast in open terrain, and is really nimble once you get up to speed in the POW. Also super stable and good on edge. But for me at least, it is too fast for crowded days on piste, as I end up taking up too much space if I want to really ride it.
 

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Centrifugal Amplids are stiff, also torsionally, that’s why they hold a very good edge for the EE.
If you want something easier for tight trees in the top freeride class look at K2 Alchemist or Jones Flagship (probably an even better pick from Jones would be the Stratos but I haven’t been on that one yet)
 

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I'm 155lbs and I didn't love the 157 surfari in tight stuff. It is a ripping carver that likes space and wide open faces.

Also, the souly grail is the softest of the centrifugals. I picked one up half off at the end of last season so haven't ridden it much yet.

A nod to the Jones stratos, but it's a bit stiff too. I've heard the Nerd Superposition is a great option if you want something a bit rarer.
 

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Centrifugal Amplids are stiff, also torsionally, that’s why they hold a very good edge for the EE.
If you want something easier for tight trees in the top freeride class look at K2 Alchemist or Jones Flagship (probably an even better pick from Jones would be the Stratos but I haven’t been on that one yet)
How would you say the Alchemist compares to the Surfari? Seems like you have ridden both.
 

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How would you say the Alchemist compares to the Surfari? Seems like you have ridden both.
The Surfari 161 is stiffer overall, especially in the nose and torsionally, than the Alchemist 163 that I’ve ridden. The 8.4 m sidecut from the specs on the Surfari feels like that, with the Alchemist the stated 8.1 m on average feels like close to 9 m from the front foot (late season I realised I barely ride my heavily tapered backfoot-driven boards anymore and if so, I put a lot of setback to be able to drive it more from the front foot anyway) and around that 8 m when you exit the carve.
For really deep powder and full piercing through crusty chop I’d go the Surfari but for a playful charger daily all condition ride the Alchemist has the upper hand imo.
I will test both on the same day, same bindings this season.
 

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I looked at the Surfari. Was after something a bit softer and less committed than my old Burton Custom-X, just for a change. So was after a Dada. Ended up with a Killswitch too 😮

Does the Surfari need space? How does it go in pow in tight trees? I'm guessing more traditional camber and stiffer than the Future Shapes lineup.

When I ran through the online Amplid board selector tool, it threw up the Surfari as my ideal board, so curious about it
It's a great board and the last few trips I've been blessed with no crowds so wide open groomers it was a blast.

Today at Cardrona it's busy and it's a bit of a handful in tight places, not too bad but I find it performs much better at speed. Groomers are pretty hard pack today, it's been cold but the board still holds an edge no problems. I wish I brought the Dada up today.

Expecting around 20cm of fresh powder overnight so maybe I'll bring the Dada up for a run tomorrow if the winds hold off. Expecting the resort to be closed honestly so maybe a beer day.

I also looked at a few of the new K2 boards for this season and the alchemist and Excavator in the shops yesterday, they have a seriously good lineup of boards this season.
 

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It's a great board and the last few trips I've been blessed with no crowds so wide open groomers it was a blast.

Today at Cardrona it's busy and it's a bit of a handful in tight places, not too bad but I find it performs much better at speed. Groomers are pretty hard pack today, it's been cold but the board still holds an edge no problems. I wish I brought the Dada up today.

Expecting around 20cm of fresh powder overnight so maybe I'll bring the Dada up for a run tomorrow if the winds hold off. Expecting the resort to be closed honestly so maybe a beer day.

I also looked at a few of the new K2 boards for this season and the alchemist and Excavator in the shops yesterday, they have a seriously good lineup of boards this season.
Yes, Alchemist & Excavator were on my list too. Ended up with good deal on the Amplids. Got about 15cm heavy pow yesterday. Dada went well in the trees.
 

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We had 50cm of new snow at Cardrona today, took the Dada and what a great board. Winds were high, above 80kmph at times making snow conditions varied across the mountain but I was surprised how well the Dada did in all conditions even in those hard icy exposed areas.

Easy to throw around, stable, handles so well at slower speeds but stable enough at speed and chopped out snow. The difference between the Surfari with antiphase and Dada without is noticeable but tbh it's not a hard charging board and to me feels at home in the chilled out slower mellow carves and slashes. Would be well suited in Japan and is just the board I'm looking for.

It's an attention grabber, several people were really interested in it and love the fluoro light the base gives off against the snow, I didn't even notice it until a few others mentioned it in the lift lines. Definitely taking it out again tomorrow.

I think I'll run the red or yellow softer pods on the K2 Liens tomorrow and possibly a touch more setback for a more surfy feel.
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We had 50cm of new snow at Cardrona today, took the Dada and what a great board. Winds were high, above 80kmph at times making snow conditions varied across the mountain but I was surprised how well the Dada did in all conditions even in those hard icy exposed areas.

Easy to throw around, stable, handles so well at slower speeds but stable enough at speed and chopped out snow. The difference between the Surfari with antiphase and Dada without is noticeable but tbh it's not a hard charging board and to me feels at home in the chilled out slower mellow carves and slashes. Would be well suited in Japan and is just the board I'm looking for.

It's an attention grabber, several people were really interested in it and love the fluoro light the base gives off against the snow, I didn't even notice it until a few others mentioned it in the lift lines. Definitely taking it out again tomorrow.

I think I'll run the red or yellow softer pods on the K2 Liens tomorrow and possibly a touch more setback for a more surfy feel.
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Yes, finding the Dada very easy to live with in a variety of conditions. A relaxed ride that carves nicely and is flickable in tree pow.
 

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The Dada is a great ride. My feet are a tad small (8.5) for it so it felt a little sluggish on piste, but killed everywhere else. It could be my daily if my feet are bigger.

I don't own one, but I borrowed my friends (orange with flouro base too). I recommend that board to everyone who has bigger paddles than I do. I wish it had antiphase!
 

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The Dada is a great ride. My feet are a tad small (8.5) for it so it felt a little sluggish on piste, but killed everywhere else. It could be my daily if my feet are bigger.

I don't own one, but I borrowed my friends (orange with flouro base too). I recommend that board to everyone who has bigger paddles than I do. I wish it had antiphase!
I can see how the width might scare some people off the Dada. I have US 10.5 feet, not exceptionally large feet.

Maybe if I did a quick A/B comparison with a narrower board I'd notice a lack of nimbleness on piste. I've just been riding it a lot so don't notice it. As moguls grow I start to notice the width but avoid the speed bumps anyway when possible.

I also have a Killswitch I've only ridden a couple of times. For general relaxed tooling around, particularly on the smaller mountains we have here in Australia (I ride at Thredbo), first impressions were the Dada was my pick.

I think in wider open spaces with low crowds and good snow that hasn't been chopped up and skied out, the Killswitch might gain some ground. I intend to give it another run when conditions improve. The two boards aren't massively different.
 

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I can see how the width might scare some people off the Dada. I have US 10.5 feet, not exceptionally large feet.

Maybe if I did a quick A/B comparison with a narrower board I'd notice a lack of nimbleness on piste. I've just been riding it a lot so don't notice it.
At 10.5 I think you're totally fine. I think im the outlier here with pretty small boots for my size/height (5'9" 155lbs). As I wrote in another post about Amplid Future Shapes a long time back, I feel like most of their boards (they only come in one size) are made for 10+ feet and 170 to 190 lbs. I wish they all came in three sizes but that would just be too many boards to produce so I get it.
 

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So I ran the red softer pods on the bindings with a bit of set-back, narrower stance and a +15/-6, hated it! 2 hours I was back at the binding station putting the blue pods back in with the heel block, wider stance and back to +15/+6 and much more at home. Just had trouble driving it, couldn't put my finger on it just knew it wasn't for me. Conditions also weren't ideal, certianly not bad though, the wind is making everything pretty hard packed in areas, few powder stashes but not enough. The Dada holds an edge so well, very maneuverable but I think it'll be much more at home in some powder, like most of us. I love how adaptable these K2 Liens AT are.

But for now...

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Yeah, I find the build from this factory is beefier than the previous from the Mothership; feel more optimal with a more responsive set of binders and/or boots. Love my 57 SG with my CartelX x VANS Infuse Longo's combo, drives it well imo.

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You have tests and specs here if you care to translate it:

But they are super standard specs: 25.9 ww, 7.7m, no setback, 55/58 stance on the 158s. I guess the flex is more where the magic happens.
 
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