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I am just wondering if anyone has recovered from an ankle sprain injury and what approaches they used to heal their ankles? Is there anything other than Physio that I can look into so that I can recover quicker for the winter season?

I sprained my ankle while snowboarding about 5 months ago. I am getting physio treatment on a regular basis and also exercise the ankle every day whenever I can (following my physiotherapist's advices). I know over time I should see improvements but I haven't gotten any progress yet :dunno:.

Basically I was using super worn out boots that had no ankle support. I pulled a 3 off a medium jump on the last day of the season and the slush conditions slowed me down while taking off and I landed slightly on the flats. My ankles somehow twisted and I rolled my ankle inwards (eversion sprain) and now I'm getting pain every time I stretch my foot toward the 11 o'clock position or if I jump and land heavily on my toe side.
 

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If you've had no progress for 5 months, I'd get a second opinion. Could be a tendon or something that won't heal without surgery... See another doc!
 

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Ankles are slow to heal up, theyre also a pretty complicated joint that docs often misdiagnose. i sprained? an ankle pretty badly once and it took 10 years to get to 97% recovery.
but if you're seeing zero progress after 5 mo.s you should be seeing a doc about it. potentially you may have fractured your talus, x rays sometimes miss that. the bone would set over 5 mo but maybe poorly. Fusion is often presented as the best option but if you can find an exceptional orthopod they should be able to offer other ideas to keep it moving.
 

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If you've had no progress for 5 months, I'd get a second opinion. Could be a tendon or something that won't heal without surgery... See another doc!

I second that. 5 months for a sprain is excessive. Seems like you might have done more damage than just a sprain.
 

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If you've had no progress for 5 months, I'd get a second opinion. Could be a tendon or something that won't heal without surgery... See another doc!
I second that. 5 months for a sprain is excessive. Seems like you might have done more damage than just a sprain.
Guess the better question would be what degree sprain was it and type (high/low) when you saw the doc?
+1 to all three! Both my ankles have been sprained multiple times! Don't remember which was which but One was done twice, the other thrice! Two of those times required casting! ...that was many years ago in service. guess they no longer do that unless maybe for 3rd degree sprain/ or ligament separation!? Last two times, I just got the velcro n plastic brace!

Never got any phisio for the first time, and the day after the cast was removed,.. I had to do a 25 mi. Forced march. 30-50 lb ruck. In Combat boots!

I have known people to walk around for weeks and months on Broken ankles, and never know it! Get another check up!
 

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All the advice already given has been spot on. Back in the day during football I got lazy and wasn't paying attention during practice which resulted in an inversion sprain. I decided to just suck it up and just play through it. Ended up tearing some stuff up and even then never really did anything about it. Just wore a super stiff brace all the time. Then when Basketball came in the picture I probably rolled that ankle at least once per practice/game even wearing high tops due to the fact that I never let it heal properly so it can't support the quick changes in directions. Now it clicks and grinds whenever I rotate it.

Long story short, don't be a schmuck like myself. Go get another opinion and see what they have to say. You should definitely see improvement after five months. Also, get some new boots.
 

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I have a bum right wheel, stepped on a rusty nail as a kid & my entire heel bone turned to custard, with a thin egg shell like bit keeping it from collapsing.:thumbsdown:

8 years later, when the figured it out, I had my heel bone hollowed out.
They didn't close it back up, they cleaned out the inside of it for 2 months until it closed on it's own.

Watching big roach clips with a cotton ball on the end disappear into your foot, is something you don't forget:thumbsdown:

:thumbsdown:The scar is massive:blowup: & finding comfy stiff boots is tough.

From now on you are only going to buy really stiff boots, you have too.
Next time you do that to your ankle it'll take 3rice as long to heal.

Stiff boots will 90% prevent that, but there's still a chance.

I did pretty much the same thing a long time ago, over shot the landing & ate shit big time.
My knee touched the nose of my board & tore up my ankle.

Almost my whole season went down the shitter.

I couldn't take it after a while, I needed to get back out there for some spring riding.

I couldn't barely walk in normal shoes, if I stepped on so much as an ant my ankle would roll over.

This worked so well I couldn't believe it

I bought an air-cast, it has an air bladder supported by rigid plastic.
Your leg bone would probably snap before one of these things.

Just make sure you have the bladder full enough so that no plastic touches your ankle when the air gets compressed from riding.
This is a must do thing or prepare for agony:dizzy:

Once you have that dialed in, you need to find a fairly soft boot that is @ least one size bigger. Fairly soft because it'll hurt like a som bitch trying to get your foot in something stiff.

Your foot with the air-cast on it should fit in there & the stiffness of the air-cast will make up for the soft boot.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Fr-voila.ogg

All I could really do was stand there & lean slightly to each side to carve, couldn't hit jumps or even go that fast, mostly out of fear that my ankle might explode.

But that didn't matter, I was back on the hill riding in sunny spring:yahoo::thumbsup:


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I have a bum right wheel, stepped on a rusty nail as a kid & my entire heel bone turned to custard, with a thin egg shell like bit keeping it from collapsing.:thumbsdown:

8 years later, when the figured it out, I had my heel bone hollowed out.
They didn't close it back up, they cleaned out the inside of it for 2 months until it closed on it's own.

Watching big roach clips with a cotton ball on the end disappear into your foot, is something you don't forget:thumbsdown:

:thumbsdown:The scar is massive:blowup: & finding comfy stiff boots is tough.

From now on you are only going to buy really stiff boots, you have too.
Next time you do that to your ankle it'll take 3rice as long to heal.

Stiff boots will 90% prevent that, but there's still a chance.

I did pretty much the same thing a long time ago, over shot the landing & ate shit big time.
My knee touched the nose of my board & tore up my ankle.

Almost my whole season went down the shitter.

I couldn't take it after a while, I needed to get back out there for some spring riding.

I couldn't barely walk in normal shoes, if I stepped on so much as an ant my ankle would roll over.

This worked so well I couldn't believe it

I bought an air-cast, it has an air bladder supported by rigid plastic.
Your leg bone would probably snap before one of these things.

Just make sure you have the bladder full enough so that no plastic touches your ankle when the air gets compressed from riding.
This is a must do thing or prepare for agony:dizzy:

Once you have that dialed in, you need to find a fairly soft boot that is @ least one size bigger. Fairly soft because it'll hurt like a som bitch trying to get your foot in something stiff.

Your foot with the air-cast on it should fit in there & the stiffness of the air-cast will make up for the soft boot.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Fr-voila.ogg

All I could really do was stand there & lean slightly to each side to carve, couldn't hit jumps or even go that fast, mostly out of fear that my ankle might explode.

But that didn't matter, I was back on the hill riding in sunny spring:yahoo::thumbsup:


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Thanks man, and thank everyone else for your suggestions.

I'm going to see a podiatrist tomorrow and see what they say. I bought a pair of Nike Kaiju recently, it's not the stiffest of boots but should have much more ankle support than my previous DC park. If they don't work out when the season starts then I'll have to get even stiffer boots somewhere.

The air cast idea sounds interesting, I'll look into that as well!
 

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I am 41 and have rolled my left ankle about 12 times in the last 15 years. The last time I rolled it was in June. I didn't notice any imorovement for nearly 2.5 months. It was the first time that I didn't recover within a week or two. I was quite scared and decided on the physio route. Physio was just ok but didn't take away the main problems. I hired a personal trainer for a few sessions - not specifically to deal with ankle - and after a few sessions woke up one day a week or two back 90% better. I think it had to do with the numerous squats he was getting me to do. So that is something you may want to try. You don't need weights - your own body weight can suffice. I think the squats worked the foot somehow.
 

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I am 41 and have rolled my left ankle about 12 times in the last 15 years. The last time I rolled it was in June. I didn't notice any imorovement for nearly 2.5 months. It was the first time that I didn't recover within a week or two. I was quite scared and decided on the physio route. Physio was just ok but didn't take away the main problems. I hired a personal trainer for a few sessions - not specifically to deal with ankle - and after a few sessions woke up one day a week or two back 90% better. I think it had to do with the numerous squats he was getting me to do. So that is something you may want to try. You don't need weights - your own body weight can suffice. I think the squats worked the foot somehow.
I've actually been already working on some weight bearing exercises.

The thing is though, my ankle sprain is an eversion sprain (on the inside), not an inversion (on the outside which is more common). So my ankles are perfectly functional for normal activities, including squats or running. I only feel pain when I point and stretch my foot upwards toward 11-12 o'clock positions. Or when I lean against a wall like this image.

http://rochester.radishmagazine.com/images/stories/online_wall_pushup_1351615839_1.jpg

I can snowboard in my current condition but I KNOW that if I just take one bad landing and stretch my ankle, I will be in for weeks of pain =(

I'm hoping to recover before the season starts since park and freestyle are 70% of the fun for me on the mountains.
 

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Somebody else said it, but you very likely have that fractured talus. It's common amongst snowboarding ankle injuries, and it was the first thing they checked me for when I snapped my Achilles. Thankfully, mine was intact, so I cannot speak to the treatment, but make sure the podiatrist understands what/how happened.
 

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Just an update... the podiatrist basically only looked at my ankle and asked me to go get an x-ray. I will have to visit him again next week for another check up.

I do feel like it might be a fractured talus because that's exactly the location where the pain is. But I'm able to run and do normal day-to-day and even snowboarded with this injury in the summer. So maybbbbe it's just a really bad sprain :dunno: I guess I won't know till I see the podiatrist again next week.
 

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Time and patience. Calf/hamstring exercises help a lot to strengthen the surrounding muscle tissue. Last season I broke my ankle, hyper extended my big toe, and broke that as well. Tore muscle tissue all the way up into my calf. The best solution is to let the bitch heal. Wrap it, ice it, and therapy it. It's the best way. Chiropractic adjustments help a lot as well
 

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last September I strained my achilles when I rolled my ankle on a hike. I found it didn't get any better at all until I started wearing shoes with good arch support and ankle support. I bought a pair of K2 Thraxis boots, thinking that the super stiff boot would help and still let me snowboard. All season the only pain I had was when I was putting my boots on and pulling them off, because my ankle only really hurt when stretched in the way you mentioned above. I found that stretching them a bit before putting the boots on also helped. I rode 30 days last season and never had any pain while riding, but my ankle still hurt until April or May of this year. Tendons are a bitch.
 

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last September I strained my achilles when I rolled my ankle on a hike. I found it didn't get any better at all until I started wearing shoes with good arch support and ankle support. I bought a pair of K2 Thraxis boots, thinking that the super stiff boot would help and still let me snowboard. All season the only pain I had was when I was putting my boots on and pulling them off, because my ankle only really hurt when stretched in the way you mentioned above. I found that stretching them a bit before putting the boots on also helped. I rode 30 days last season and never had any pain while riding, but my ankle still hurt until April or May of this year. Tendons are a bitch.
lol that's what I did with my broken ankle, and I was able to get in 29 days :thumbsup:
 

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go for acupuncture. It can really help speed up the healing for long term sprains etc. like yours.
I would give this a try, im going to myself. Sprained my ankle 14 months ago and hasnt been the same since. It may be scar tissue that is causing the pain now if you already checked that its not fractured. I can feel a hard lump of tissue if I dig deep thats causing my pain so hopefully sticking some needles in it will help.

Edit: Ive also heard of dry needling that might work better:dunno:
 
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