Thanks there, I just wanted some answers of why our community shifted away from respecting the ride first. If it was about appeasing the masses, it would not be snowboarding.
Anyone know what Nicolas Muller is up to?
Just curious, because he has always been my favourite pro rider.
I know his sponsors dropped him. But does anyone know, if he is making a comeback?
I know his sponsors dropped him. But does anyone know, if he is making a comeback?
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I think if Nico and this thread has taught us anything, it's that being an excellent rider and being an ignorant asshole are not mutually exclusive things.
I am still lost am I the ass hole and if so, sorry. Was Nico an ass hole? I lost. All I wanted to see was what was up and no one cares I guess, people just bag on people.I think if Nico and this thread has taught us anything, it's that being an excellent rider and being an ignorant asshole are not mutually exclusive things.
I just think that no matter how good someone is at something, they should also try to be a decent person. People make mistakes, yeah, and I have compassion for just about everyone and am usually willing to give people many, many chances. And people are also free to be assholes. But I'm also free to ignore them and not buy their shit when they are.
And if a lot of people feel the same way as me, then said person doesn't get to get paid to snowboard full-time and will have to do something else for a living like the rest of us. And a space on the Red Bull helicopter opens up for someone else who probably wouldn't have gotten a shot otherwise and isn't entitled. Boo hoo.
It might not seem like it while you're in it but snowboarding is an incredibly niche sport for a very privileged set of people. We should feel lucky just to be able to do it let alone get paid for it.
And if a lot of people feel the same way as me, then said person doesn't get to get paid to snowboard full-time and will have to do something else for a living like the rest of us. And a space on the Red Bull helicopter opens up for someone else who probably wouldn't have gotten a shot otherwise and isn't entitled. Boo hoo.
It might not seem like it while you're in it but snowboarding is an incredibly niche sport for a very privileged set of people. We should feel lucky just to be able to do it let alone get paid for it.
I completely agree. So is there more to the story than being “a flat lander..? All I herd was he was talking conspiracy theories. Was that all it was?I just think that no matter how good someone is at something, they should also try to be a decent person. People make mistakes, yeah, and I have compassion for just about everyone and am usually willing to give people many, many chances. And people are also free to be assholes. But I'm also free to ignore them and not buy their shit when they are.
And if a lot of people feel the same way as me, then said person doesn't get to get paid to snowboard full-time and will have to do something else for a living like the rest of us. And a space on the Red Bull helicopter opens up for someone else who probably wouldn't have gotten a shot otherwise and isn't entitled. Boo hoo.
It might not seem like it while you're in it but snowboarding is an incredibly niche sport for a very privileged set of people. We should feel lucky just to be able to do it let alone get paid for it.
Kind of like saying, “I heard Connor Mcgregor and Vanilla Ice said a couple of controversial things, but I don’t understand what the big deal is?!”I completely agree. So is there more to the story than being “a flat lander..? All I herd was he was talking conspiracy theories. Was that all it was?
You can play victim and blame the industry for not being true, but that’s just delusion.
Is/was the riding style awesome? Yes. But remember, Mike Tyson’s tremendous boxing (I’d argue the most aggressive style and most entertaining ever) couldn’t keep him from going to prison… it wasn’t the boxing industry that turned on him, it was his actions.
Antonio Brown is another. It’s sad.
If Nico had been in this year’s Natural Selection, that could have been epic.
Also, I want to just say that it might seem funny or cool to be so good at something that you can take a huge shit on things you don't like and be a TV-style villain and still succeed financially. But it's not funny or cool, and neither is trying to be a gatekeeper for some activity you supposedly love.
Guaranteed if everyone who snowboarded in the early years acted like that the sport wouldn't even exist for you and me today.
But you ever meet those people so stoked on snowboarding they'll happily talk to anyone else about it, and the fact that they snowboard matters way more than their ethnicity, gender, job, wealth, and politics? I love those people. We need more of them.
What would be cool is if snowboarding were a much more welcoming and easygoing community than say, skiing.
Guaranteed if everyone who snowboarded in the early years acted like that the sport wouldn't even exist for you and me today.
But you ever meet those people so stoked on snowboarding they'll happily talk to anyone else about it, and the fact that they snowboard matters way more than their ethnicity, gender, job, wealth, and politics? I love those people. We need more of them.
What would be cool is if snowboarding were a much more welcoming and easygoing community than say, skiing.
Absolutely!Also, I want to just say that it might seem funny or cool to be so good at something that you can take a huge shit on things you don't like and be a TV-style villain and still succeed financially. But it's not funny or cool, and neither is trying to be a gatekeeper for some activity you supposedly love.
Guaranteed if everyone who snowboarded in the early years acted like that the sport wouldn't even exist for you and me today.
But you ever meet those people so stoked on snowboarding they'll happily talk to anyone else about it, and the fact that they snowboard matters way more than their ethnicity, gender, job, wealth, and politics? I love those people. We need more of them.
What would be cool is if snowboarding were a much more welcoming and easygoing community than say, skiing.
We used to be that way. I want what matters back. Style and shredding tough.
Thanks to all who wrote in on this, I’m just lost to what happened in the culture to shun pure radness. Y’all have fun out there.
Interesting. Nobody’s preventing you from strapping in.Thanks to all who wrote in on this, I’m just lost to what happened in the culture to shun pure radness. Y’all have fun out there.
If sport lives in a bubble separate from real world issues we get things like the Olympics in Nazi Germany, the World Cup in Argentina in 1978 etc. If some people want to focus on "pure radness" and ignore everything else I'm glad most are not.
Didn't expect this thread to turn into a political shitshow. Kinda funny to be honest.
Exactly what I didn’t want. Just wanted to know why the raddest dude is missing from the scene? And why no one cares?Didn't expect this thread to turn into a political shitshow. Kinda funny to be honest.
He continually said a bunch of racist, antisemitic, crazy, offensive things so his sponsors stopped sponsoring him because he became useless for selling stuff. It's really not complicated or difficult to understand.Exactly what I didn’t want. Just wanted to know why the raddest dude is missing from the scene? And why no one cares?
It was Nico himself that made it all about politics.
Dude, this is one of the best responses. I, like many have been understanding the impact of the decades of relentless impact on the brain. It’s a struggle that only time will tell and I think there are a lot of us.I'm loving how this thread has brought together one of the all-time stylists and well, the other guy.
I saw that Muller's wife left him at the time due to all the conspiracy stuff. From what I understood, a lot of people tried to help him but he was really far gone. Most likely too many concussions didn't help. Snowboarding will sooner or later have some sort of reckoning as far as what pros are expected to do for our entertainment and what happens to them when they become not so entertaining anymore. It happened in rugby where lots of players in their late 20s and early 30s have senile dementia due to repeated head banging. I doubt Nico will ever have a career in snowboarding again which is fair enough given the toxic garbage he was promoting but maybe the industry should have a bit more responsibility when someone loses it after a 20+ year career of tomahawking through boulder fields.
🤦♂️Dude, this is one of the best responses. I, like many have been understanding the impact of the decades of relentless impact on the brain. It’s a struggle that only time will tell and I think there are a lot of us.
Do you mean dementia?Dude, this is one of the best responses. I, like many have been understanding the impact of the decades of relentless impact on the brain. It’s a struggle that only time will tell and I think there are a lot of us.
Most likely cte is the initial expression of trauma most miss. Dementia is a long term outcome of repeated traumas along with general brain degeneration
just dropped in to see why this thread was still alive ... carry on
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