Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums banner

1 - 17 of 17 Posts
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hello =)

I'm looking to take advantage of the sierrasnowboard sale on right now, and I need a little help.

First off I'm new to snowboarding, a few facts:

-5'9 150 lbs (I understand height means very little)
-24 years old
-Living in Calgary, Alberta
-I have been snowboarding three times so far, all on rentals
-Rode a 150, 155, and 160(was a wide?) Burton LRT so far
-I'm definitely a beginner, but I feel I have a handle on linking turns
-150 almost killed me(on my 2nd night not my first), liked the 155, really enjoyed the 160 but it was a little heavy
-Size 10 snowboard boot
-Will just be carving hills, with plans to eventually try the terrain park, but not until I can ride really well(so probably not this season)

I plan to buy a pair of boots today or tommorrow at a local shop; however if I can find a pair I like that are also on the website I will order them that way.

And hopefully with a couple of suggestions I will also be ordering bindings and a board from sierrasnowboard within the next....30 hours and 31 minutes =P

With that said I'm not limiting myself to that site, so any other suggestions are welcome =)


ps. the FAQ's and guides on this site have been really helpful so far, I appreciate them
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #2
I just bought a Never Summer F1 Premiere and rode it in about every east coast condition there is from ice to powder and absolutely love it. My wife got the Lotus and loves it as well. 3 year warrantee is sweet. Never had anyone say anything bad about them. Rocker Camber, variogrip, board is sick for freeriding all conditions. Dont think you'll be disappointed! I have a size 10 shoe and am 5'8" 160. I ride a 159 but would have gotten a 157 too.
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #3 (Edited)
I would love a Never Summer, but it is definitely out of my price range...I probably should have mentioned my budget


I think I've decided to go with the 158 Flow Merc: (Haven't ordered just yet, so if you have any criticism let me know)
Flow Merc Snowboard Reviews & Sale | SierraSnowboard.com

My budget for boots/bindings/board is $400 Canadian, but will to go over a little if required to get better boots. (450)
This board is 150 + shipping&exchange rate = $~208 Canadian

Which leaves 200-250 for boots and bindings.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
156 Posts
I plan to buy a pair of boots today or tommorrow at a local shop; however if I can find a pair I like that are also on the website I will order them that way.
Go to a local shop and try on all the boots that you're interested in first. Find one that fits you perfectly, then leave and buy that one online (if you know it's a better price online and don't mind screwing the store rep over a bit :rolleyes:). You can not undervalue the need for a well fitted boot more than anything else. It's the only piece of equipment that is really personally specific and should get a good chunk of your budget; bindings and boards are pretty much commodities. There were some good looking deals at Sierra though; I wish I bought my 2010 Burton Rulers for that price!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
128 Posts
The first thing I need to say is that I hate that I saw this post! I just looked at Sierras deals and I can get a Arbor Westmark for the price I paid for my Del Ray a month ago!!! Ahhh!

As for what you should buy, all I can suggest is that you read over the next 18 hours alot. There is alot of really good information on these forums that will lead you to the right purchase.

You shouldn't be on a 160, imo its to big for you. My buddy who is exactly your height/weight rides a 155 Ride Kink and wishes he got 153(which is what I am riding and I'm 190). I would suggest going no larger than 155.

Good luck! Let us know what you got.
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #6
The first thing I need to say is that I hate that I saw this post! I just looked at Sierras deals and I can get a Arbor Westmark for the price I paid for my Del Ray a month ago!!! Ahhh!

As for what you should buy, all I can suggest is that you read over the next 18 hours alot. There is alot of really good information on these forums that will lead you to the right purchase.

You shouldn't be on a 160, imo its to big for you. My buddy who is exactly your height/weight rides a 155 Ride Kink and wishes he got 153(which is what I am riding and I'm 190). I would suggest going no larger than 155.

Good luck! Let us know what you got.
Thanks for the help =)

Yeah, I've been reading my butt off, I think I've read every guide/FAQ I can get my hands on and searched several beginner threads.


I think I've decided to pair up the Board with 2010 Flow Quattro Bindings; heading out to Shoe shop right now.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
128 Posts
I think I've decided to pair up the Board with 2010 Flow Quattro Bindings; heading out to Shoe shop right now.
Everyone has their own opinion on flows, personally I would rather have toe cap straps or some Ride Nitrane Contrabands(all mountain over normal contrabands which are more park specific with a softer highback). I love my contrabands and recommend them to anyone now. Once set up right(which takes longer than normal bindings) they are super super comfy and responsive. Easy to get in and out of also, which I am assuming you want the flows for. Either way good luck man.
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
Alright, so I went out and purchased a pair of 2007 Celsius Xenon Lace size 8 1/2, turns out I'm not even close to a size 10...
They were the most comfortable boot that I tried in 5 different shops I went to tonight.

I'm about to order a 2010 Forum Merc and Quattro Flow bindings but not sure exactly what sizes I should get.

Should I get a 155 or 158 board?
Should I get large or medium bindings?
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
I'd go 158 with mediums but I'm not a pro at this. I'm 5'8" with a 159.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
156 Posts
Alright, so I went out and purchased a pair of 2007 Celsius Xenon Lace size 8 1/2, turns out I'm not even close to a size 10...
They were the most comfortable boot that I tried in 5 different shops I went to tonight.

I'm about to order a 2010 Forum Merc and Quattro Flow bindings but not sure exactly what sizes I should get.

Should I get a 155 or 158 board?
Should I get large or medium bindings?
Totally normal with the boot sizing. You should go with something comfortably snug. I typically wear size 10 running shoes, but fit between an 8.5-9 depending on the boot brand.

As for sizing, either a 155 or 158 would be fine really. Turning will be easier on the 155, speeds will be slightly faster/more stable on the 158. You're pretty light, so the 155 should be plenty. I've got 30 lbs on you at 5'10" and ride a 155.

Binding wise you look to be at the top end of a Flow medium, though I'm not expert on how to fit them (are they easier to shrink down from an L, or to size up from a M?). I've only used Flows twice, and that was 4-5 years ago. They've changed a lot (for the better) since then.
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #11 (Edited)
Totally normal with the boot sizing. You should go with something comfortably snug. I typically wear size 10 running shoes, but fit between an 8.5-9 depending on the boot brand.

As for sizing, either a 155 or 158 would be fine really. Turning will be easier on the 155, speeds will be slightly faster/more stable on the 158. You're pretty light, so the 155 should be plenty. I've got 30 lbs on you at 5'10" and ride a 155.

Binding wise you look to be at the top end of a Flow medium, though I'm not expert on how to fit them (are they easier to shrink down from an L, or to size up from a M?). I've only used Flows twice, and that was 4-5 years ago. They've changed a lot (for the better) since then.

I appreciate the help!
I ordered a 158 Flow Merc, and Medium Quattro Flow Bindings just before I saw your post, hopefully I'll still be fine.

I ordered Priority International Shipping, so I'm hoping it's here on Friday for my trip to Lake Louise this weekend =)
I will be sure to check back here and let you know how everything went.

To Summarize my new setup:
2007 Celsius Xenon Lace size 8 1/2
158 Flow Merc
Quattro Flow Bindings - Medium
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #13 (Edited)
Alright, my board and bindings arrived today and in great shape. (wow that was quick)

One problem, my bindings barely fit my boot.
I can only tighten it 3-4 grooves on each sides, and my boot sticks out 2 inches from the end of the binding. It looks like when mounted my boot will stick out 1 1/2' from the board. (I don't know how to mount yet hehe, having a friend come help me)

I can still take them on and off easily, and they do seem to fit well,
I'm just concerned if this will effect the longetitivetly or performance of the bindings/boots?
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #14 (Edited)
I got to test up my setup yesterday at Lake Louise, and it was pretty much the best day ever.

The whole setup was great;


2007 Celsius Xenon Lace size 8 1/2:

The boots are so much more comfortable then the Burton Moto's I had been renting. Much better ankle support, and more snug around the bottom of my foot, and zero heel lift.

Quattro Flow Bindings - Medium:
The bindings were very easy to get in and out, but I found that you can easily to tighten them too much and hurt your feet, once I played around with it was perfect. I ended up going with a centered +15/-12 stance, my rentals had +15/0 stance; I liked the +15/-12 more.

I'm still not certain my bindings are centered thou...

2010 158 Flow Merc -
This board is SO much faster and lighter then the Burton LRT rental. I felt like I could link turns with out using much energy at all. However, on the flip-side, because I was so used to a heavier sluggish board, I fell more times in the first hour then all previous times before because I was overcompensating all my movements.
At the end of the day I got used to the board, and it felt, awesome and was comfortably carving down blue runs.

I was glad I learned to link turns on a Burton LRT first, because I would have wiped out SO much more learning on this board.
I wouldn't recommend this board to someone on their first time out, or a beginner who isn't very Athletic. This is not a "beginners beginner" board

If you've rented a few times, and feel comfortable on green runs, or just a gifted Athlete(not me) I would definitely recommend a Flow Merc as your first board. It also seems like a board that will still be relevant as a intermediate mountain board.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,106 Posts
Good to hear.

Just a few things

As for your bindings not fitting, im not familiar with flows sizing but medium for prettty much all bindings fits 8 1/2...most have straps that you can lengthen...Flows really require a lot of setup the first time to get the correct fit..dont skimp on this!

Also make sure that your binding is properly centered over the width of the board when you are standing on it, you should have equal toe and heel over each side. For example to do this on my board with my Burton bindings i have to mount them all the way back(top holes of the binding plate) to get this set properly.

Also check the toe ramp if flows have it and pull it out so that your binding is from heel to toe...
 
R

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #16
Good to hear.

Just a few things

As for your bindings not fitting, im not familiar with flows sizing but medium for prettty much all bindings fits 8 1/2...most have straps that you can lengthen...Flows really require a lot of setup the first time to get the correct fit..dont skimp on this!

Also make sure that your binding is properly centered over the width of the board when you are standing on it, you should have equal toe and heel over each side. For example to do this on my board with my Burton bindings i have to mount them all the way back(top holes of the binding plate) to get this set properly.

Also check the toe ramp if flows have it and pull it out so that your binding is from heel to toe...

You're right, and I spent some time adjusting the bindings.

The bindings are mounted all the way back, the heel cap is adjusted all the way back. The notch that also adjusts the wire for the "standing angle" is loosened all the way, the front straps are on the notch towards the toe, and the toe ramp is pulled out.

When the binding is sitting on the board it is perfectly centered, it's when I put my boot into the the binding; the boot sticks out from the board a little more on the toe then on the heel:

It's 1 1/4' in the front and 3/4' in the heel.
 
P

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter #17
Flow Merc vs Head Matrix...

Glad it worked out for you. I'm a semi-beginner looking for my first board.

I'm actually looking at a 158 Flow Merc as well. I weigh 170 though. Any thoughts on the Merc vs. 156 Head Matrix?

The Merc is such a good deal online, but I was thinking about buying the Head from a local shop.

Thoughts?
 
1 - 17 of 17 Posts
Top