At 150lbs I didnt feel overly stable on the 159 Black Death. So I'm going with not that stable. You are much better off with the Rossis in my experience.
BSOD stable in chop or not?
Opinion seems pretty split with some saying it gets bucked around in the chopped up crud and others saying it plows like a beast. Thoughts from those who've ridden it?
Looking to pick up a camrock charger that leans freeride, but keeps a toe in freestyle feel. Pretty much down to the BSOD or the Rossi Angus or One Mag.
Looking to pick up a camrock charger that leans freeride, but keeps a toe in freestyle feel. Pretty much down to the BSOD or the Rossi Angus or One Mag.
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Thanks man. Surprising that the 159 felt a bit unstable.At 150lbs I didnt feel overly stable on the 159 Black Death. So I'm going with not that stable. You are much better off with the Rossis in my experience.
Very surprising. I rode a 159 @ 170 and it charged through PNW chunder like a champ.
And rossignols warranty SUCKS so hard I can't even tell you. And it's a ski company.
Your post is filled with non-sense :icon_scratch:And rossignols warranty SUCKS so hard I can't even tell you. And it's a ski company.
Rossi cs and warranty service do a really good job and are known to take care of the customer
Rossi boards operate indepenantly from the ski division.
Quite a few companies have an affiliation with skis i.e. k2, salomon, never summer, Mervin. Did you have a point with your post?
I'd like to hear why their warranty sucks. And oh no, a brand that used to sponsor Travis Rice, Chad O, J.Jones, and still sponsors Xavier also makes skis. Northface and Vans are connected, Volcom is owned by prada. The Union dudes came from rollerblades. Gonna boycott all them too?And rossignols warranty SUCKS so hard I can't even tell you. And it's a ski company.
I bought a brand new board back in the '07-08 season and used it a single time on the hill. The board clearly had a spot that was delaminating on the topsheet and it flexed on that point, causing the topsheet to crack. (note this was NOT a binding line break, but much farther up on the nose of the board)
Rossignol was a royal pain to deal with, with the warranty people telling me over and over it was a binding line break. They finally told me to send the board in at my own expense, which I did. After multiple emails and no response after a 2+ month period I was finally able to get in contact with someone in the warranty department. They flat turned me down claiming binding line break which was utter bullshit for a board that was used 1 time and was clearly delaminating. So at this point I'm out ~200 for the board, 35 for shipping, and I don't have a deck to ride.
Here's the best part: they threatened to destroy my board because they said it was unsafe to ride and were trying to get me to pay return shipping costs to get the board back to me.
*Edit* whoops forgot the end, in the end Rossi ended up keeping my board and destroying it. So sick! Best customer service ever for sure I'm so stoked on how they handled that!
So yea, Rossi can suck my dick long and hard for that one.
Who from Union came from rollerblading? I worked at C3 for over a year and never heard that zinger so please fill me in on that one.
And I'm not hating on all ski companies and I don't hate skiing at all so I shouldn't have put out that vibe. But between fucking Rossi and a real snowboard company like Capita the choice is easy in my mind. Even if the Rossi were a bit better (which I have no fucking clue, I'll never touch another one of their decks) I would still go with Capita because they are a company that has shown me that they care about the people riding their equipment. That means a lot to me.
Rossignol was a royal pain to deal with, with the warranty people telling me over and over it was a binding line break. They finally told me to send the board in at my own expense, which I did. After multiple emails and no response after a 2+ month period I was finally able to get in contact with someone in the warranty department. They flat turned me down claiming binding line break which was utter bullshit for a board that was used 1 time and was clearly delaminating. So at this point I'm out ~200 for the board, 35 for shipping, and I don't have a deck to ride.
Here's the best part: they threatened to destroy my board because they said it was unsafe to ride and were trying to get me to pay return shipping costs to get the board back to me.
*Edit* whoops forgot the end, in the end Rossi ended up keeping my board and destroying it. So sick! Best customer service ever for sure I'm so stoked on how they handled that!
So yea, Rossi can suck my dick long and hard for that one.
Who from Union came from rollerblading? I worked at C3 for over a year and never heard that zinger so please fill me in on that one.
And I'm not hating on all ski companies and I don't hate skiing at all so I shouldn't have put out that vibe. But between fucking Rossi and a real snowboard company like Capita the choice is easy in my mind. Even if the Rossi were a bit better (which I have no fucking clue, I'll never touch another one of their decks) I would still go with Capita because they are a company that has shown me that they care about the people riding their equipment. That means a lot to me.
You're still bitching about a warranty problem you had 7 years ago? Do you also boycott Nike for the factory fiasco in the 80's?I bought a brand new board back in the '07-08 season and used it a single time on the hill. The board clearly had a spot that was delaminating on the topsheet and it flexed on that point, causing the topsheet to crack. (note this was NOT a binding line break, but much farther up on the nose of the board)
Rossignol was a royal pain to deal with, with the warranty people telling me over and over it was a binding line break. They finally told me to send the board in at my own expense, which I did. After multiple emails and no response after a 2+ month period I was finally able to get in contact with someone in the warranty department. They flat turned me down claiming binding line break which was utter bullshit for a board that was used 1 time and was clearly delaminating. So at this point I'm out ~200 for the board, 35 for shipping, and I don't have a deck to ride.
Here's the best part: they threatened to destroy my board because they said it was unsafe to ride and were trying to get me to pay return shipping costs to get the board back to me.
Who from Union came from rollerblading? I worked at C3 for over a year and never heard that zinger so please fill me in on that one.
One of the four financial backers. I'd have to dig up his name again to remember. He was with Drake in the beginning too. Spanish or Italian or something.
I'm guessing you nose blocked it and snapped the core... or it's a binding line crack
Yea I am. I worked to buy that board and it ruined a good bit of my season waiting for those douchers to finally just buttram me. They wouldn't even send me my defective board back! Would you ever support a company after being treated like that? Hell no! Fuck em straight to hell!
ESPECIALLY after working with C3 and seeing first hand how they handle customer service issues. I don't want to say too much and leave them vulnerable to abuse, but they handle shit with their customers and try to make them happy however possible.
And meh, I don't know those euro dudes. On the US side most of the employees that I met come from solid shred backgrounds. Except for Bob... that dude was a ski racer hahaha
I don't do that nose or tail block shit because I don't want to risk snapping a deck like that. And yea it's clearly a binding line break since I know exactly what those are and that this was absolutely not that. I love how you are trying to defend them in a situation you were not involved in and never saw my deck.
ESPECIALLY after working with C3 and seeing first hand how they handle customer service issues. I don't want to say too much and leave them vulnerable to abuse, but they handle shit with their customers and try to make them happy however possible.
And meh, I don't know those euro dudes. On the US side most of the employees that I met come from solid shred backgrounds. Except for Bob... that dude was a ski racer hahaha
I don't do that nose or tail block shit because I don't want to risk snapping a deck like that. And yea it's clearly a binding line break since I know exactly what those are and that this was absolutely not that. I love how you are trying to defend them in a situation you were not involved in and never saw my deck.
It happened right around where the arch of the nose starts and it happened because the board was not properly laminated. The layers separated when I went in for a hard carve and it caused the topsheet to bow outwards and crack. Not a binding line break and not from a fucking noseblock.
I'm just telling you guys my experiences with them dealing with a LEGITIMATE warranty claim. I'm not some prick that would send in a deck when I snapped it being a tool, this was clearly a manufacturers defect and they raped me over it. Atleast at C3 when something happens they'll offer you a discount on new gear, Rossi did nothing but tell me to cough up more dough or they'll destroy my deck.
I'm just telling you guys my experiences with them dealing with a LEGITIMATE warranty claim. I'm not some prick that would send in a deck when I snapped it being a tool, this was clearly a manufacturers defect and they raped me over it. Atleast at C3 when something happens they'll offer you a discount on new gear, Rossi did nothing but tell me to cough up more dough or they'll destroy my deck.
So lets judge an entire company forever cause you had one bad experience. That makes sense.
You really think they have the same policies or even the same people they did back then?
Ugh, whatever.
You really think they have the same policies or even the same people they did back then?
Ugh, whatever.
Be careful throwing around your employment with c3 when disparaging others and in how you present yourself on this board
i borrowed my friend's BSOD last year and it was great in snoqualmie. super stable but still fun to dick around on. i'd go with the BSOD if i were you
While I agree with a lot of the input you put into this forum, I have to respectfully disagree with this. If a company did treat me poorly, I would most definitely judge a company differently, and despite any changes they have made to improve their services, I think the sourness from my previous experience would turn me off from buying from that company again. This is especially true when there are many different brands that produce a similar quality product.So lets judge an entire company forever cause you had one bad experience. That makes sense.
You really think they have the same policies or even the same people they did back then?
Ugh, whatever.
ahhh...how good a board is in the chop...is mostly dependent on the rider's skill and the heaviness/wetness of the chop. On soft chop any stiff enough board is going to be fine vs heavy mashed potato chop no board is going to work well and is more about line selection and rider skill.Opinion seems pretty split with some saying it gets bucked around in the chopped up crud and others saying it plows like a beast. Thoughts from those who've ridden it?
Looking to pick up a camrock charger that leans freeride, but keeps a toe in freestyle feel. Pretty much down to the BSOD or the Rossi Angus or One Mag.
Let me be clear: I am in no way shape or form associated with c3. My actions and opinions are my own. I was simply saying that because these are the two companies that were being compared and I was sharing my personal experiences with the two companies being discussed.
I'm not a capita fanboy or anything like that, but I think that having been employed by them and seeing firsthand how they deal with customer issues and in contrast also having personal experience with Rossi customer service the OP may find my opinion of use when making their decison.
I'm not a capita fanboy or anything like that, but I think that having been employed by them and seeing firsthand how they deal with customer issues and in contrast also having personal experience with Rossi customer service the OP may find my opinion of use when making their decison.
I broke my new 11 Angus last year and they sent me a new 14 model at the end of last year
Historically the bsod has not been a damp board so you feel everything. For some the lack of dampness can create an unstable feeling in the chop as it will buck.
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