[pdxrealtor]

Took off my bindings tonight to inspect and found this.

Each binding has a crack in the base where the base plate mates up with the base. Both, while might not be obvious in the pictures, are all the way through and can be manipulated up or down to completely separate.

On top of that Burton already has one new high back in the mail, as well as two new heel cup pads since all three have come unglued.

Looks like I'll be getting new base plates as well. Big deal, if these broke why won't the next ones......

:thumbsdown:

 

[poutanen]

Thanks for the heads up! I'll check mine too... I really wish Burton still made premium bindings with standard plates. I don't need this re:flex business...

 

[bseracka]

Wow; that really blows. I'm thinking its less an issue with the reflex and more of an over coring and use of material that is to stiff/brittle.

 

[ETM]

Ill check mine too.
Im on my 3rd broken highback and Ive given up on those stupid sticker pads.
My rear toe ratchet seems to be loose after every run now too. Not to mention the constant ice build up on the stupid circles in the footbeds and highbacks.

Its a pity I love them cause they really are fragile pieces of shit.

 

[Lamps]

Light
Stiff
Durable

Pick 2

I will take the first two, although I haven't broken anything yet on mine.

 

[seriouscat]

Nothing of importance broken on mine yet and I've definitely crashed hard.

The only problem i encountered is a small piece of foam has come unglued from high back. And yes the ice thing is uber annoying if I go to a bc mountain that has wet snow.

 

[604al]

I'm a huge fan of Burton bindings in general, but I hate when they take form over function like they did with alot of parts of the Diode. You could tell there were going to be issues with the funky looking inside highbacks and footbeds as those holes made for too many places for dirt and snow to build up. No FLAD was a pain to setup and dial in... at least they're adding that to the 2014s. As far the cracked baseplate, I'm guessing that's what happens when you take a stiff reflex baseplate and pair it with a soft or mid flexing board?

Waiting to see the genesis hiback issue posts appear... these are one seriously comfy pair of bindings, but those hibacks are seriously fragile.

 

[Supra]

^^^^ well, feb 24 and no threads on the genesis highback yet, so I'm guessing there isn't a problem

 

[pdxrealtor]

As far the cracked baseplate, I'm guessing that's what happens when you take a stiff reflex baseplate and pair it with a soft or mid flexing board?

.

I have a billygoat , that's a pretty stiff board. I was thinking maybe it might be the c2 profile. With the camber under the bindings only you're constantly flexing that disck, more so than if on a rocker or camber board.

I just hit two days of intense riding in trees, steeps, and pow and more pow! :yahoo:

Anyways ..... The padding on the back binding is now barely hanging on.



The lack of FLAD sucks but for such a stiff binding , at least for me, I've been very happy with set it and forget it , and its served me well.

The ice build up got so bad at one point I had to use a stick to scrape it off just so I could strap in. Complete garbage for top of the line shit.

Mt hood meadows (that's where I bought them) is trying to get their local rep to get me new plates or possibly new bindings this week. I leave for 7days of Utah this Saturday so time is of the essence. They knew exactly where the cracks were before I even showed them, right at the 36* mark. So this obviously isn't a rare occasion. They thought it was re-flex also.

And let's not forget I already have a new high back on the way as well as heel cup stickers.

Was thinking I might try to find a c60 or ,,, what's the other super stiff burton binding that's been discontinued?

I don't know. I love how burton straps work like butter, and I'm so happy with the performance but shit ...... I don't see the next set doing any better. :icon_scratch:

 

[BigmountainVMD]

Waiting to see the genesis hiback issue posts appear... these are one seriously comfy pair of bindings, but those hibacks are seriously fragile.

^^^^ well, feb 24 and no threads on the genesis highback yet, so I'm guessing there isn't a problem

Someone mentioned the Genesis bindings are being redesigned for 2014... SO glad I waited on those.

 

[pdxrealtor]

Ill check mine too.
Im on my 3rd broken highback and Ive given up on those stupid sticker pads.
My rear toe ratchet seems to be loose after every run now too. Not to mention the constant ice build up on the stupid circles in the footbeds and highbacks.

Its a pity I love them cause they really are fragile pieces of shit.

my rear toe attachment is coming loose at the bottom of the runs as well. Although sitting down and strapping in does seem to help that.

 

[poutanen]

Was thinking I might try to find a c60 or ,,, what's the other super stiff burton binding that's been discontinued?

Were the C02s the other one? I've got a pair of 2009 Disc C60s that I bought for the Virus. The Diodes seem to be hanging on for me (despite slamming some knuckles pretty hard!), so I may sell the C60s one of these days.

One thing I noticed riding the two bindings back to back the other day, the C60s feel LOCKED IN. I have my EST set on a 2012 Burton Custom now and they are almost overkill. VERY responsive. Not that I'm unimpressed with the Diodes, they just need me to run my boots tighter.

 

[pdxrealtor]

Were the C02s the other one? I've got a pair of 2009 Disc C60s that I bought for the Virus. The Diodes seem to be hanging on for me (despite slamming some knuckles pretty hard!), so I may sell the C60s one of these days.

One thing I noticed riding the two bindings back to back the other day, the C60s feel LOCKED IN. I have my EST set on a 2012 Burton Custom now and they are almost overkill. VERY responsive. Not that I'm unimpressed with the Diodes, they just need me to run my boots tighter.

Yep-- that's them. The CO2s. Was just reading some reviews that say the c60 and CO2s are stiffer than Diodes so you're 'feel' is spot on with the reviewers.

I think the CO2s come with a re-flex disc in 2011 model which is what I'd hold out for should I need to go that direction.

 

[bseracka]

Depending on outcome with the replacement parts, if you are in the market for new bindings, I can`t speak highly enough of the Rome Targa`s with the canting as a great match for the Billy Goat.

+1 to this. I'm using Targas on my Dark Series and Raiden Machines on my Kessler this season. While I like both bindings, I find myself happier with Targas. Even though the Machines are the stiffer of the two bindings, I find the Targas to be oddly more responsive. I'm going to switch my binding combo this coming weekend to see if it is a combination issue, or if I really just perfer the Targas.

 

[pdxrealtor]

Foot pads....

Weighed them tonight , since I have to rip my entire binding apart to swap frames, and was amazed by outcome.

Check it out..... The prophecy footpad (front/rear) weigh 8 oz less than the diode.

I'm thinking about taking off the highback foam to lighten even more, but main reason is to prevent ice build up.

 

[pdxrealtor]

Diode foot pad....


Thoughts?

 

[pdxrealtor]

Other diode and prophecy foot.

 

[pdxrealtor]

:dunno::dunno:

 

[pdxrealtor]

Just an update--- burton sent out two new frames just before I left for Utah. Used them for four days without issue.

 

[Deacon]

Foot pads....

Weighed them tonight , since I have to rip my entire binding apart to swap frames, and was amazed by outcome.

Check it out..... The prophecy footpad (front/rear) weigh 8 oz less than the diode.

I'm thinking about taking off the highback foam to lighten even more, but main reason is to prevent ice build up.

that's 8/10s of an ounce difference. 8 oz would be 1/2lb.