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hey,
So I'm looking to get my first board, and I'm pretty clueless on what to go for. I know which boards Ii kinda like, but I could use some guidance.
So I'm 5'10" 170 lbs. give or take, I've only been on super soft and wobbly rental boards, and I'm really not a fan of the soft boards. I've been riding groomers mostly but I want to get more into powder, off-piste, trees, and backcountry. I don't ride in the park that much.
I'm pretty much looking for a board that I can have fun with for years since it will be my only board for a couple of seasons.
I'm able to get some pretty good deals on K2 boards and bindings, so I pretty much fell in love with the 2020 Party Platter size 147 or 152. The shop told me that the Line Up bindings will be a great fit, but I heard people say that they are super soft and non-responsive. would the formulas be a better choice or should I go for some Union atlas?

I'm open to suggestions on boards and bindings. My budget is around 650$ 600€ 500£ for a set, sales and discounts included.

I hope someone can help me out a bit or guide me in the right direction.
 

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I'd rather have a Simple Pleasures if I was in your shoes. It's more of a board to grow into. A Simple Pleasures should outperform a Party Platter everywhere you listed except the park. It won't be as much of a party board, but it can still party board with the best of them I'm sure.

K2 Lien AT bindings are the ones to get on there if you want responsive and powerful yet surfy. They're the Lineup's bigger brother. K2 Lineup will teach you how to stack your weight over the heel edge better, but might not be the best bet for a beginner. I use them on boards I want to be really surfy or tree specialists- basically when I hardly want highbacks at all.
 

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I'd rather have a Simple Pleasures if I was in your shoes. It's more of a board to grow into. A Simple Pleasures should outperform a Party Platter everywhere you listed except the park. It won't be as much of a party board, but it can still party board with the best of them I'm sure.

K2 Lien AT bindings are the ones to get on there if you want responsive and powerful yet surfy. They're the Lineup's bigger brother. K2 Lineup will teach you how to stack your weight over the heel edge better, but might not be the best bet for a beginner. I use them on boards I want to be really surfy or tree specialists- basically when I hardly want highbacks at all.
Thanks a lot!
I just understood the Simple Pleasures as a very directional and aggressive board. I will look more into that one though.

If I look at other bindings, like Union, Ride or Burtons, what should I look for then?

I've been offered a great deal on the Party Platter 152, Union Atlas bindings, a board bag, and a k2 poncho (don't care about the poncho really, but I guess it's fun to have) for 650$. so that really speaks to me. They can't make the same deal on the Simple Pleasures right now though. And also they don't offer K2 bindings at this shop, very weird.
 

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I just understood the Simple Pleasures as a very directional and aggressive board. I will look more into that one though.

If I look at other bindings, like Union, Ride or Burtons, what should I look for then?
From what I'm seeing here, both of you are correct. The Simple Pleasures is the better board for freeriding, which is basically what it sounds you're leaning towards, but it's also more aggressive and hard-charging than the Party Platter, which is a more freestyle-oriented board.

Depending on what skills you have now, the Party Platter will be more forgiving, but it's also softer and less floaty in powder.

What kind of snow you usually ride in will also be a factor. If you ride icy conditions often, the more pronounced camber of the Simple Pleasures will help you lock in your turns a lot better.

I'd try to demo the Simple Pleasures, if possible, and see if you like it and it doesn't kick your ass too much. If you can manage it, it'll be better for your progression and you won't outgrow it.

As for bindings, I think anything with a medium flex and all-mountain oriented, that's adjustable so you can play around with what you like best, will be good for you. Once you know what you like, you can search for more specialized bindings for down the road.
 

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I've been offered a great deal on the Party Platter 152, Union Atlas bindings, a board bag, and a k2 poncho (don't care about the poncho really, but I guess it's fun to have) for 650$. so that really speaks to me. They can't make the same deal on the Simple Pleasures right now though. And also they don't offer K2 bindings at this shop, very weird.
I agree that the Simple Pleasures is a better board for what you're describing. But here's the caveat; every new rider describes what they want exactly the same way you do because they can't ever see themselves doing big park jumps or riding switch. If you get really into the sport, odds are decent you'll want to try those things eventually. If not, you're probably not going to be freeriding hard enough that you're going to miss the camber feel that the Simple Pleasures would give you and the Party Platter will be more forgiving anyway.

Union Atlas bindings will last many seasons and are a great all-around binding that you could put on any board. If the Party Platter is a great deal and you like it, I'd say go for it and if in a couple of years you're strictly freeriding and want a camber dominant very directional board specifically for that, you'll have a much better idea of what board you'll want then.

My progression was weird cause I started in the 90's with a massive camber board, then a camber twin, then a full rocker twin...so my boards got more forgiving for a while. I had a lot more fun on the rocker twin than on the previous boards because I could spin it around and ride switch and generally play around. It wasn't until I was doing larger jumps and going over 40mph that that board didn't fit the bill anymore.
 

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I think a directional twin might be the way forward for a new rider like you. That way you'll have something that's decent enough for most things and you'll find the shortcomings and that will guide your next purchase down the line.

Don't be scared to buy used either. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck. Lots of good deals on either NOS or used ish.
 

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I agree that the Simple Pleasures is a better board for what you're describing. But here's the caveat; every new rider describes what they want exactly the same way you do because they can't ever see themselves doing big park jumps or riding switch. If you get really into the sport, odds are decent you'll want to try those things eventually. If not, you're probably not going to be freeriding hard enough that you're going to miss the camber feel that the Simple Pleasures would give you and the Party Platter will be more forgiving anyway.

Union Atlas bindings will last many seasons and are a great all-around binding that you could put on any board. If the Party Platter is a great deal and you like it, I'd say go for it and if in a couple of years you're strictly freeriding and want a camber dominant very directional board specifically for that, you'll have a much better idea of what board you'll want then.

My progression was weird cause I started in the 90's with a massive camber board, then a camber twin, then a full rocker twin...so my boards got more forgiving for a while. I had a lot more fun on the rocker twin than on the previous boards because I could spin it around and ride switch and generally play around. It wasn't until I was doing larger jumps and going over 40mph that that board didn't fit the bill anymore.
Thanks a lot! this helps. I'm not focusing 100% on freeriding, but I would like to be able to have float between trees, fun on groomers and still be able to hit natural jumps, etc.
I'm still thinking about what to get. It's a more difficult choice than I thought.

I think a directional twin might be the way forward for a new rider like you. That way you'll have something that's decent enough for most things and you'll find the shortcomings and that will guide your next purchase down the line.

Don't be scared to buy used either. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck. Lots of good deals on either NOS or used ish.
any suggestions on directional twins? are we talking something like Lobster Sender, Jones Frontier? I'm really open to any suggestions on boards.

also, I'm from Denmark, so the amount of used boards for sale is really limited. we're talking like 10-15 years old boards that are beat up and still overpriced. And not everybody on eBay and such, want to ship to Denmark, for some reason.
 

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Something like the jones mountain twin. Really hard to go wrong with that board for a first deck to be honest.

Maybe you can find someone that ships to denmark even from the UK. There are definitely deals out there and if the season is starting to end maybe shops are clearing things out. Any shops by the mountains where you go? Might be worth to try things there.


There's nothing wrong with the party platter as a first board. It's just not a quiver of one board like the jones mountain twin. If that excites you and you like riding it then... i guess go for it. It's not going to be as versatile as something like the JMT.

Here's a review of the sender: The 2020 Lobster Sender Snowboard Review | The Angry Snowboarder

I don't think that would be a great board if your goal is to do stuff out of the park.
 

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Something like the jones mountain twin. Really hard to go wrong with that board for a first deck to be honest.

Maybe you can find someone that ships to denmark even from the UK. There are definitely deals out there and if the season is starting to end maybe shops are clearing things out. Any shops by the mountains where you go? Might be worth to try things there.


There's nothing wrong with the party platter as a first board. It's just not a quiver of one board like the jones mountain twin. If that excites you and you like riding it then... i guess go for it. It's not going to be as versatile as something like the JMT.

Here's a review of the sender: The 2020 Lobster Sender Snowboard Review | The Angry Snowboarder

I don't think that would be a great board if your goal is to do stuff out of the park.
I can find online dealers, with great deals that ships to Denmark. That's also why I fell for the Party Platter seems like a great deal, 650$ for the board with Union Atlas bindings, a board bag, and a K2 poncho.
The Jones Mountain Twin has also been in my eye, simply because I love the deck design. Also, the raised edges in the nose and tail seem like a great idea. I will look more into this board.
The Mountain Twin will be 720$ for a set with bindings and a board bag.

The local shops here in Copenhagen doesn't have the biggest selection of boards and brands, so my best option is online shopping.
I also don't think that I will be able to hit the mountains again this season, so can't demo or talk to the shops there, unfortunately.
 

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The local shops here in Copenhagen doesn't have the biggest selection of boards and brands, so my best option is online shopping.
I also don't think that I will be able to hit the mountains again this season, so can't demo or talk to the shops there, unfortunately.
If you can wait for the end of the season, prices often drop a bunch over the summer. I generally accumulate next season's gear in the off season. Your options go down, but the prices do too.

If you're planning on getting more than one snowboard in a season or two, a party platter would be a lot of fun. The 2020 is more versatile than it used to be- K2 made it more twin and added camber. I recommended a more directional board because that's what I would choose for the freeriding you described. As a beginner, the party platter probably won't hold you back. As you feel like you want more out of a board, you can get something a little more aggressive like a Simple Pleasures.
 

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If you can wait for the end of the season, prices often drop a bunch over the summer. I generally accumulate next season's gear in the off season. Your options go down, but the prices do too.

If you're planning on getting more than one snowboard in a season or two, a party platter would be a lot of fun. The 2020 is more versatile than it used to be- K2 made it more twin and added camber. I recommended a more directional board because that's what I would choose for the freeriding you described. As a beginner, the party platter probably won't hold you back. As you feel like you want more out of a board, you can get something a little more aggressive like a Simple Pleasures.
There's a lot of sales going on everywhere right now. So that's why I'm looking around. I must say that I'm between boards right now. Jones Mountain Twin 2020 or K2 Party Platter 2020. I'm leaning more to the Party Platter, mostly because of the looks. I just love the simple graphics and the fact that I can downsize that much.

I guess that I have to sleep on it for some time and do some more research. At least I'm pretty sure, that I'm getting the Union Atlas bindings, even though I have a buddy who keeps saying i should get some rear entry.
 

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Jones Mountain Twin is going to be more versatile if that's an option for you. I'd get that, you can ride it forever.
 

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thanks for the help, i will think about this over the weekend with a couple of beers and maybe play rock-paper-scissors to decide.
 

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So I just bought the Mountain Twin, at a local shop. super good price and all. problem is, the price tag said 157 when I get home, I see the board itself says 158W. I wear a size 9.5 US boot, should I go back to the shop and get the 157 or is the difference so small that I shouldn't worry about it? I mean, we're talking 1 cm. larger, 0.5 cm wider. does it matter?
 

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I would get the 157. I would not keep the 158W.
The 1cm longer isn't a big deal, but you don't need a wide board. You should get the board you paid for not something else.

Solid choice on a first board btw.
 

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I would get the 157. I would not keep the 158W.
The 1cm longer isn't a big deal, but you don't need a wide board. You should get the board you paid for not something else.

Solid choice on a first board btw.
Thanks! I just thought that the 0.5 cm wider wouldn't matter. Jones refers to it as a mid-wide. But I will get back to the shop when they open tomorrow then.
Thanks a lot.
 
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