C2X vs Shockwave Camber Profiles

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policeman5151

Discussion Starter · 4 mo ago

I've been riding a Never Summer 25 with Rip Saw profile. Size 13 boot so I go mid-wide to wide. I'm intermediate and only get out maybe 10 times a year.
Decent board, pretty fun, but it's been so icey (i'm in the midwest) and the board gets so loose at slower speeds and doesn't do great on hard pack/ice.
None of these are a shocker with the CRC profile.

I do like the fun ride of a CRC, but I'm looking for something to improve that edge old on hard pack and icey conditions.
I've been Looking at the Lib Tech Skunk Ape II and the Never Summer Proto Synthesis. Curious of anyone's experience comparing these 2 profiles.
And obviously true camber is the best for icey conditions. The local shop has suggested the Yes Typo or Arbor Element for true camber with less catchy feeling.

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SEWiShred

· #2 · 4 mo ago

People make fun of Proto FR triple camber but I prefer it over my Lib Tech Hot Knife (C3 camber with mag) in icy conditions. It's definitely a weird board and took me a while to get used to because of the profile. I'm not a fan of Lib Tech, that Skunk Ape II is a $650 board with an extruded base.

I would suggest getting your edges sharpened first. You might just have dull edges, a year or two of 10 rides a day on icy midwestern conditions are enough to dull your edges. I think people who are lucky enough to ride real snow don't realize how quickly ice can dull your edges.

Where are you at? I'm in SE Wisconsin, I also have a 159w Lib Tech Hot Knife I'm growing tired of. But I'd try sharpening those edges at a good shop before you buy a new board or anything.

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policeman5151

Discussion Starter · #3 · 4 mo ago

SEWiShred said:
People make fun of Proto FR triple camber but I prefer it over my Lib Tech Hot Knife (C3 camber with mag) in icy conditions. It's definitely a weird board and took me a while to get used to because of the profile. I'm not a fan of Lib Tech, that Skunk Ape II is a $650 board with an extruded base.

I would suggest getting your edges sharpened first. You might just have dull edges, a year or two of 10 rides a day on icy midwestern conditions are enough to dull your edges. I think people who are lucky enough to ride real snow don't realize how quickly ice can dull your edges.

Where are you at? I'm in SE Wisconsin, I also have a 159w Lib Tech Hot Knife I'm growing tired of. But I'd try sharpening those edges at a good shop before you buy a new board or anything.

I heard others say the Proto FR weird at first, how so?
Honestly I'm not sold that the little bump in the middle of the rocker.

I'm in Michigan so in the UP mostly. I get them sharpened every 2 years so I was going to do it after this season.

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SEWiShred

· #4 · 4 mo ago

Your edges should be sharp like this. I doubt you're sharpening them enough. Especially in the contact points They need to be plenty sharp in bad conditions. I know people who debur their edges after every single day out.

Proto FR feels weird because it feels like a rocker, but you don't expect a rocker to carve or turn well. But it does, and very well. It isn't a replacement for camber, it definitely doesn't initiate turns or feel the same. BUT it does what a camber board is supposed to do. I've been going between my Flow Quantum (old school camber half pipe board) and my Proto FR and I've been very happy.

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foreveryoung

· #5 · 4 mo ago

policeman5151 said:
I'm in Michigan so in the UP mostly. I get them sharpened every 2 years so I was going to do it after this season.

Already a day in icy slopes can make your edges needing sharpening. I do my edges maybe roughly after every 5 times depending on conditions I've ridden (soft vs. hard snow vs. ice). But once every 2 years is way too rarely especially if you ride mainly in hard packed slopes.

I sharpen the edges myself using Toko Edge Tuner Pro for it (alternatives are plenty). Doesn't take too long and the tool itself is pretty cheap. On ice you can really feel the difference between dull and sharpened edges.

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policeman5151

Discussion Starter · #6 · 4 mo ago

foreveryoung said:
Already a day in icy slopes can make your edges needing sharpening. I do my edges maybe roughly after every 5 times depending on conditions I've ridden (soft vs. hard snow vs. ice). But once every 2 years is way too rarely especially if you ride mainly in hard packed slopes.

I sharpen the edges myself using Toko Edge Tuner Pro for it (alternatives are plenty). Doesn't take too long and the tool itself is pretty cheap. On ice you can really feel the difference between dull and sharpened edges.

Nice thanks. Just added the Toko to the cart.
You guys are definitely right. My friend just did some light detuning of my board over the weekend and noticeably different. Did that pen test before and after and I was really surprised. Now I just need to get on some snow.

I still want a new board though

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