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So earlier in the season I was able to land little frontside 3's off little features, but I destroyed my front ankle and broke my toe mid season so when I resumed (2 weeks later:laugh:) I wasn't able to go frontside anymore because it put too much tension on my front ankle causing sharp pain. So I tried backside...and I got em down nice...but somehow I cork them? So basically...I can only do corked backside 360's. Besides the fact that I've completely skipped 180s(which I will work on), Is this going to hamper my progression if I don't try to get down regular 3's? Or will this give me an advantage with more advanced tricks later?
 

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If you can't do 180's and you can't control your 360's to spin the way you want them I would say your way ahead of yourself and you need to back it up to straight airs until you have control and learn proper 180's.
 

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If you can't do 180's and you can't control your 360's to spin the way you want them I would say your way ahead of yourself and you need to back it up to straight airs until you have control and learn proper 180's.
I second this. Back in the day I used to be guilty of this same thing. Learning proper 180's is crucial to having control in the air.
 

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If you can't do 180's and you can't control your 360's to spin the way you want them I would say your way ahead of yourself and you need to back it up to straight airs until you have control and learn proper 180's.
If I do it corked every time, doing the same approach, with the same result, I'd say they're being thrown the way I want them to be thrown. I realized it was corked after the first attempts, and liked it, so I kept with it, and nailed them down now. Why would I have to back up to straight airs if i can hit transfers, spines, hips, etc, do different grabs, and cork a backside on command? I do them on purpose, fully aware i'm using a cork approach. I can 180 onto a box and out, I hit jibs and can go switch out, so it's not like i'm beyond my ability to control the board. Obviously I'll be going back to work on the 1's, but they will be easy enough. Plus like I said, i was able to go frontside before my injury. Which leads me back to my original question

I second this. Back in the day I used to be guilty of this same thing. Learning proper 180's is crucial to having control in the air.
I do agree. It's not like I'm just going to skip it all. I guess I'm asking in a general sense is learning a corked 3 before a regular 3 going to make it harder on me to learn more adv tricks later?
 

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Then my answer to you is yes, this will hamper your progression because you are skipping cruicial steps. Your not going to get a different answer on this forum I can assure you of that so if you came here looking for someone to say good job, move onto 1080's now it's not gonna happen.
 

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Then my answer to you is yes, this will hamper your progression because you are skipping cruicial steps. Your not going to get a different answer on this forum I can assure you of that so if you came here looking for someone to say good job, move onto 1080's now it's not gonna happen.
read my edit. No need to get butt hurt because I'm not bowing down and taking your word. I'm challenging ideas so I can have a better understanding of what I need to do. I'm not going to just do what I"m told because someone said so, not without fully understanding. Calm yourself. Plus you didn't even answer my question the first time without telling me WHY, all you said was to go back to straight airs.
 

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lmao... who's butthurt?

I did answer your question, you just didn't like the answer.

My point is that if you truly had good board control spinning a 360 would not be hard for you to spin flat, your stating that "somehow" you cork them, which means you don't really know why therefore you can't control it. This is not a good thing.
 

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lmao... who's butthurt?

I did answer your question, you just didn't like the answer.
So this:
If you can't do 180's and you can't control your 360's to spin the way you want them I would say your way ahead of yourself and you need to back it up to straight airs until you have control and learn proper 180's.
is your version of answering this?
Is this going to hamper my progression if I don't try to get down regular 3's? Or will this give me an advantage with more advanced tricks later?
Anyone with self respect wouldn't like that answer.

My point is that if you truly had good board control spinning a 360 would not be hard for you to spin flat, your stating that "somehow" you cork them, which means you don't really know why therefore you can't control it. This is not a good thing.


I also stated I do them on purpose. Using a cork approach, I execute a cork spin. On purpose. I can't do regulars because it hurts my ankle. Sorry you're clinging onto how I first illustrated my question, I was just trying to illustrate my confusion on how this even came to be.

Extremo answered me better with his ending sentence
 

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I answered you in my first post :)

Your way ahead of yourself and you need to back it up to straight airs until you have control and learn proper 180's.

Shall we dance somemore? :dizzy:
 

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I answered you in my first post :)

Your way ahead of yourself and you need to back it up to straight airs until you have control and learn proper 180's.

Shall we dance somemore? :dizzy:
Nah I'm satisfied now :D
 

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So basically...I can only do corked backside 360's. Besides the fact that I've completely skipped 180s(which I will work on), Is this going to hamper my progression if I don't try to get down regular 3's? Or will this give me an advantage with more advanced tricks later?
if you can't spin flat before corking you will throw yourself off once you start doing bigger tricks, your body gets used to throwing it one way and when you want to try something different muscle memory takes over.
being able to control whether you spin flat, cork, and how much you cork is huge when going to bigger jumps or trying to turn the 3's into 5's, 7's and so on.
 

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Your why: It's going to screw you up when you hit bigger jumps and spin bigger rotations because you aren't able to control your cork properly.

Anyone can cork by throwing their shoulder down, but being able to control how much you cork and when you cork is going to be more and more important as you hit bigger features and do bigger tricks.

Learning control over how and when you spin is a fundamental basic skill that you'll use for a lot of other snowboard tricks and if you skip it you're only handicapping yourself later and building bad muscle memory.

Oh and I highly suggest going back and learning 180s. Skipping steps in progression is always a bad idea.
 

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Your why: It's going to screw you up when you hit bigger jumps and spin bigger rotations because you aren't able to control your cork properly.

Anyone can cork by throwing their shoulder down, but being able to control how much you cork and when you cork is going to be more and more important as you hit bigger features and do bigger tricks.

Learning control over how and when you spin is a fundamental basic skill that you'll use for a lot of other snowboard tricks and if you skip it you're only handicapping yourself later and building bad muscle memory.

Oh and I highly suggest going back and learning 180s. Skipping steps in progression is always a bad idea.
if you can't spin flat before corking you will throw yourself off once you start doing bigger tricks, your body gets used to throwing it one way and when you want to try something different muscle memory takes over.
being able to control whether you spin flat, cork, and how much you cork is huge when going to bigger jumps or trying to turn the 3's into 5's, 7's and so on.
Awesome. Thank you. Now I understand ,didn't mean to be a challenging troll. I just want to understand more so I know what to work on or w.e. thank you both. And I will do the 180s. One of the sexiest things imo is a nice front 1
 

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I also stated I do them on purpose. Using a cork approach, I execute a cork spin. On purpose. I can't do regulars because it hurts my ankle.
This doesn't make sense. You claim you do them on purpose, yet you initially said you're not sure how you do them(and that you can only do them that way). To me, doing something on purpose implies that there are other possible options... which for you, seems like there aren't.

On another note, would love to see these "corked" 360s. In my opinion(and others), it's not really cork-able until you spin another rotation.
 

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This doesn't make sense. You claim you do them on purpose, yet you initially said you're not sure how you do them(and that you can only do them that way). To me, doing something on purpose implies that there are other possible options... which for you, seems like there aren't.

On another note, would love to see these "corked" 360s. In my opinion(and others), it's not really cork-able until you spin another rotation.
I know right? :icon_scratch:
 

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This doesn't make sense. You claim you do them on purpose, yet you initially said you're not sure how you do them(and that you can only do them that way). To me, doing something on purpose implies that there are other possible options... which for you, seems like there aren't.

On another note, would love to see these "corked" 360s. In my opinion(and others), it's not really cork-able until you spin another rotation.
guess you missed the part where i already addressed that. Go back and read it. Pretty sure a corked spin is a spin that's off axis or am I wrong? I'm sure it's easily possible to rotate 360 degrees off axis. Planets do it no?
 

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guess you missed the part where i already addressed that. Go back and read it. Pretty sure a corked spin is a spin that's off axis or am I wrong? I'm sure it's easily possible to rotate 360 degrees off axis. Planets do it no?
I did read it, and my point remains the same. You're saying its on purpose, but you can't do it any other way. If it was on purpose, you'd be able to spin other ways.
"I'm sure it's easily possible to rotate 360 degrees off axis" doesn't sound like something someone would say if they were actually doing it. Those who have said they do this "trick" usually just end up doing some sloppy and flailing spin. Videos needed, otherwise my doubt remains.
Not a great planet analogy either...
 

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I did read it, and my point remains the same. You're saying its on purpose, but you can't do it any other way. If it was on purpose, you'd be able to spin other ways.
"I'm sure it's easily possible to rotate 360 degrees off axis" doesn't sound like something someone would say if they were actually doing it. Those who have said they do this "trick" usually just end up doing some sloppy and flailing spin. Videos needed, otherwise my doubt remains.
Not a great planet analogy either...
So when I said I used shitty wording to illustrate my confusion on how this even came to be and me saying that it was poor wording wasn't good enough for you? Wow. Anyway, I also said I have issues with other rotations because my injury. Pretty sure that means I'm making a conscious decision to purposely use a different attempt to avoid further aggravating my injury. Planet wasn't good enough? Get a ball. pierce a stick through it off centered. Now rotate the ball around the stick. Off centered rotation. Same thing. Are you just trying to troll me or something? And I'm not gonna post a video to satisfy a trolls doubt.
 

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I think they're getting confused because a cork 3 usually put you in kind of an awkward angle to land. People don't typically cork spins below 540 because of this.

It can be done, but it's pretty awkward and requires a lot of adjusting of your body to fix your angle mid air and land properly.

This goes back to understanding basic spinning and corked technique, but you'll find that with proper technique on corking and spinning it's 100 times more fun and easier to cork 540 vs. doing a cork 360 that doesn't naturally fit into an off-axis rotation.
 

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This is such a troll thread.

OP doesn't want your honest opinion, he wants you to say "wow man you can cork your 3's, that's so rad!".

I know so many guys that learned varial kickflips skateboarding because they were fucking up their kickflips and they were like "rad man I got varial flips". They could not do kickflips though, and the varial versions were horrid because they weren't really trying for those either.

Landing one trick because you fucked up another isn't progression.

If you are injured maybe you should stop snowboarding until you're able to do so without pain. But getting pissed at everyone that's giving you good advice is just dumb. You change your story with every post and your ego clearly is not capable of taking criticism so I suggest not posting on a forum at all. Every one is telling you to back it up and learn fundamentals, stop getting upset at them for being honest.
 
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