Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums banner

1 - 20 of 49 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
EDIT: While I appreciate all the recommendations, the original intention of this thread is to consolidate the effectiveness of actual boards in deep powder. Subjective I know but better than guessing from board spec

Still trying to decide which all mountain board (deep pow friendly) to buy and well, during the course of my research, I came across quite a few similar post, just tot that it might be a good idea to consolidate what I have found so far. Should be a good reference for people troubled by board sizing.

Short of a super short board (pun intended), most boards should be able to handle up till 8" worth of fresh pow. So feel free to add your board below if you usually ride in pow > 8".

Name, weight, total riding days, powder condition, board,url?

U call this deep?

Willy, 165, 300+, hokkaido, 09-10 Skate Banana 156,
mjd, 170, ?, ?, T.Rice 157, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/52483-libtech-t-rice-pro-hp-157-a.html
Irahi, 160, ?, heavy, T.Rice 157, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/81074-lib-tech-t-rice-157-161-a.html
wrathfuldeity, 180, ?, ?, Goat 159, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/53346-pow-billy-goat-trs.html
Lstarrasl, 170, ?, ?, Dark 161, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/24747-lib-tech-dark-series-c2-btx-7.html
schmitty34, 210, ?, ?, T.Rice 161.5, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/24747-lib-tech-dark-series-c2-btx-7.html
snowklinger, 180, ?, waist deep & steeps, Proto 154
dreampow, 175, ?, nagano, 13-14 Cobra 158, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/neversummer/80570-review-2014-never-summer-cobra.html#post934682
ju87, 145, ?, hokkaido, Nidecker Ultralight 158
Supra, 160, 839, japan, Burton Sherlock 160 / Nug 150 / Ultra dream 161, pg 4
Neni, 123, 450, 40cm, Jones Flagship 158, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/52658-girl-jones-flagship-good-idea-3.html
"Hubby", 190, 800+, 40cm, NS Raptor 164, pg 4
duh, 200, ?, light, T.Rice HP 161.5
duh, 200, ?, heavy, T.Rice HP 164
snowolf, 190, ?, ?, Cobra 158, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/neversummer/45641-review-2013-never-summer-cobra-16.html
Lamps, 190, ?, 2 feet, Sherlock 163 / Malolo 166, pg 5

Tough but doable if you have legs of steel

Willy, 175, 300+, hokkaido, 11-12 Highlife 155
03SVTCobra, 180, ?, ?, 08-09 T.Rice 153, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/49282-lib-tech-board-sizing.html
ju87, 145, ?, hokkaido, Carbon credit 153
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
947 Posts
Still trying to decide which all mountain board (deep pow friendly) to buy and well, during the course of my research, I came across quite a few similar post, just tot that it might be a good idea to consolidate what I have found so far. Should be a good reference for people troubled by board sizing.

Short of a super short board (pun intended), most boards should be able to handle up till 8" worth of fresh pow. So feel free to add your board below if you usually ride in pow > 8".

Name, weight, riding days, powder (max), board,url?

U call this deep?

Willy, 165, 300+, light (12"), 09-10 Skate Banana 156,
mjd, 170, ?, ?, T.Rice 157, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/52483-libtech-t-rice-pro-hp-157-a.html
Irahi, 160, ?, heavy, T.Rice 157, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/81074-lib-tech-t-rice-157-161-a.html
wrathfuldeity, 180, ?, ?, Goat 159, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/53346-pow-billy-goat-trs.html
Lstarrasl, 170, ?, ?, Dark 161, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/24747-lib-tech-dark-series-c2-btx-7.html
schmitty34, 210, ?, ?, T.Rice 161.5, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/24747-lib-tech-dark-series-c2-btx-7.html

Tough but doable if you have legs of steel

Willy, 175, 300+, light (12"), 11-12 Highlife 155
03SVTCobra, 180, ?, ?, 08-09 T.Rice 153, http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/49282-lib-tech-board-sizing.html
I dont get what your saying, but deep pow? Maybe Billy goat or the new speedodeeps? If it was me id go with a directional tapered swallow tail.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
I dont get what your saying, but deep pow? Maybe Billy goat or the new speedodeeps? If it was me id go with a directional tapered swallow tail.
I do ride a lot of powder but some people do not have the luxury of multiple quiver. Still searching for that twin all mountain board that is deep pow friendly :dizzy:
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,966 Posts
I do ride a lot of powder but some people do not have the luxury of multiple quiver. Still searching for that twin all mountain board that is deep pow friendly :dizzy:
You already have got the answer from the other thread(s) - if a true twin, you basically need a full full rocker deck (e.g., Dirty Pillow, Skate Banana, etc.) or something very close (e.g., Banana Magic), but none of these can hold a candle to a proper pow deck.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
You already have got the answer from the other thread(s) - if a true twin, you basically need a full full rocker deck (e.g., Dirty Pillow, Skate Banana, etc.) or something very close (e.g., Banana Magic), but none of these can hold a candle to a proper pow deck.
Hahaha, sorry if my posts were misleading ... I am not looking for the perfect twin all mountain snowboard that is on par with a proper pow deck. With my choice, I will definitely get sub-par performance compared to a pow deck which is fine with me.

Looking at the various post on T.Rice 157, at 160 lbs ... u should get decent performance in deep pow. Nearing 210 lbs ... perhaps a T.Rice 161.5 makes more sense. In my case 175 lbs, T.Rice 157 is a bit risky, 161.5 would be less fun in trees ... perhaps I should get a TRS 159? :dunno:
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,966 Posts
Hahaha, sorry if my posts were misleading ... I am not looking for the perfect twin all mountain snowboard that is on par with a proper pow deck. With my choice, I will definitely get sub-par performance compared to a pow deck which is fine with me.

Looking at the various post on T.Rice 157, at 160 lbs ... u should get decent performance in deep pow. Nearing 210 lbs ... perhaps a T.Rice 161.5 makes more sense. In my case 175 lbs, T.Rice 157 is a bit risky, 161.5 would be less fun in trees ... perhaps I should get a TRS 159? :dunno:
Based on your description, probably in this order (true twins from Mervin and NS):
1. Attack Banana
2. Skate Banana
3. Proto HD
4. Banana Magic
5. Proto CT
6. TRS
7. Riders Choice
8. T. Rice

Or, if you can go more pow specific, the Dirty Pillow.
 

·
Banned!
Joined
·
7,679 Posts
Based on your description, probably in this order (true twins from Mervin and NS):
1. Attack Banana
2. Skate Banana
3. Proto HD
4. Banana Magic
5. Proto CT
6. TRS
7. Riders Choice
8. T. Rice

Or, if you can go more pow specific, the Dirty Pillow.
LOL

It will - adequately, but not outstandingly. There are better options.
Making semantical arbitrary subjective statements does not make them facts, even if you do it on the interwebz, and it seems to be less than helpful to the OP just for the sake of disagreeing.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
The NS Proto will handle the poo.
Thanks for the recommendation :thumbsup:

Was interested in the C-R-C tech of never summer & lib tech, however getting a never summer board in Japan is difficult so I was forced to narrow my search to mainly lib tech / gnu boards.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,966 Posts
LOL



Making semantical arbitrary subjective statements does not make them facts, even if you do it on the interwebz, and it seems to be less than helpful to the OP just for the sake of disagreeing.
Bullshit. The OP had some fairly specific requirements - and he expressly invited comments.
My list is not arbitrary, but directly addressing his question. You can disagree with my list, as you can with my comments/recommendations - but a blanket dismissal of my post without any positive input certainly does not help the OP.

EDIT: I see that you have edited your post and removed the only constructive advice/suggestion (the Arbor deck) you head, as you (belatedly) realized that it fell outside of the OP's solution space.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
Discussion Starter #12
Appreciate all the various opinions but lets not reduce this thread to a flame war :D

Actually, I was hoping for some concrete info of boards used in deep pow. hktrdr, have u used any of your recommended boards in deep pow before? which board? what length?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
The NS Proto will handle the poo.
Can I assume that u used this board in deep pow b4? what length? Even though I am only looking at lib-tech board due to logistic reasons, I was hoping to include as many boards as possible into the list in #1. Should be a useful piece of info to me as well as others :D
 

·
The Rooster King
Joined
·
3,821 Posts
this thread is full-retard.

OP rides 300+ days a year and needs advice on a snowboard? how the fuck do you ride 300+ days in a year?

you want a twin that is 'on par' with a pow board - it doesn't exist. twins are far from ideal for pow. you want one that is dialed in for pow - don't get a twin. they'll all suck similarly.

blunted nose: you are absolutely THE LAST person on the planet qualified to recommend a board to anyone you spaz.... like you know how to ride powder anyways - you blame everything on your board. learn to ride.

concrete info on boards used in deep pow: they aren't twins.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
OP rides 300+ days a year and needs advice on a snowboard? how the fuck do you ride 300+ days in a year?
300+ days over a period of 15 years ... never tried a C-R-C board b4 and just wanted to ask around. we dun get many chances to demo boards here.
 

·
Banned!
Joined
·
7,679 Posts
HKTRDR:

I found the OP a bit convoluted and couldn't tell they were interested in ONLY Mervin but if that's the case...I just don't see why u put Protos in there and then act like their place in your list is some point of reference, so much so that you have to disagree with me. In fact the order of your list IS completely arbitrary. Having you call into question my real world suggestion of a board I have ridden in the deep stuff is as laughable as it always is when keyboard jockeys want to get in snowboard wars on the internet. Sorry if you thought you were gonna incorrectly quote me as "incorrect" and think I was just gonna lie down. Don't say shit if you don't wanna hear shit, no big deal.

I removed the Arbor suggestion when I realized the thread was Mervin oriented, although I could not tell if that was from the OP or not.

To the OP in that case, there are tons of boards to consider, and yes I ride a '54 Proto, this year took it tits deep several times, waist deep many, I weigh 180lbs (admittedly not ideal for meadowskipping, but I ride the steeps).

Arbor Blacklist/Westmark, Yes the Greats would be in my top consideration beside the Proto. TBH there are so many great boards right now, there are alot of flat cambers with rocker tips that look fun from K2, most hybrids will float significantly better than classic camber. The Smokin' boards I always like the look of too....

You wanna stick with things in the middle of the road flex-wise(or stiffer), softer rocker boards tend to fold up in the deep stuff and slow you down alot.

Keep in mind snow weight and human weight on a twin are gonna have a big effect on how these boards ride for people compared to some pow stick made to float your fat ass through ice jello.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,618 Posts
I do ride a lot of powder but some people do not have the luxury of multiple quiver. Still searching for that twin all mountain board that is deep pow friendly :dizzy:
Consider Burton Sherlock, it's a powder oriented twin.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,966 Posts
this thread is full-retard.

OP rides 300+ days a year and needs advice on a snowboard? how the fuck do you ride 300+ days in a year?

you want a twin that is 'on par' with a pow board - it doesn't exist. twins are far from ideal for pow. you want one that is dialed in for pow - don't get a twin. they'll all suck similarly.

blunted nose: you are absolutely THE LAST person on the planet qualified to recommend a board to anyone you spaz.... like you know how to ride powder anyways - you blame everything on your board. learn to ride.

concrete info on boards used in deep pow: they aren't twins.
I think the OP meant 300 days of total riding, not per year. (EDIT: I see he confirmed this already in the meantime.)

Agree completely with everything else.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,966 Posts
HKTRDR:

I found the OP a bit convoluted and couldn't tell they were interested in ONLY Mervin but if that's the case...I just don't see why u put Protos in there and then act like their place in your list is some point of reference, so much so that you have to disagree with me.
Because the Proto is the one NS board that was specifically mentioned as potentially available to the OP.

In fact the order of your list IS completely arbitrary.
No, it is my personal opinion, but it is not arbitrary, at all. It it is my opinion on which decks best meet the specific criteria listed by the OP - based on my real life experience of riding all of these boards (except for the HD and the Pillow) in exactly the same location and conditions as the OP rides.

To the OP in that case, there are tons of boards to consider, and yes I ride a '54 Proto, this year took it tits deep several times, waist deep many, I weigh 180lbs (admittedly not ideal for meadowskipping, but I ride the steeps).

Arbor Blacklist/Westmark, Yes the Greats would be in my top consideration beside the Proto. TBH there are so many great boards right now, there are alot of flat cambers with rocker tips that look fun from K2, most hybrids will float significantly better than classic camber. The Smokin' boards I always like the look of too....

You wanna stick with things in the middle of the road flex-wise(or stiffer), softer rocker boards tend to fold up in the deep stuff and slow you down alot.
Clearly you have never ridden in Hokkaido and have absolutely no idea what kind of board works in the conditions there...
 

·
Banned!
Joined
·
7,679 Posts
Because the Proto is the one NS board that was specifically mentioned as potentially available to the OP.


No, it is my personal opinion, but it is not arbitrary, at all. It it is my opinion on which decks best meet the specific criteria listed by the OP - based on my real life experience of riding all of these boards (except for the HD and the Pillow) in exactly the same location and conditions as the OP rides.



Clearly you have never ridden in Hokkaido and have absolutely no idea what kind of board works in the conditions there...
I never said I did ride Hokkaido or the Mervin catalog.

My point is that the differences between the top 5 boards on your list are pretty marginal and while they maybe rated by how you think they float in pow there are many variables at play. Your skill level probably being the most important and questionable variable of all, not to mention weight, slope degrees, moisture content of the snow that day depending on time of the season and simple preferences in decks like stiffness.

If you don't understand the difference between empirical and subjective statements and when you are or are not making them, it really makes no sense for me to sit here and have a retarded interweb argument about it.

This entire discussion is wrought with fallacy and proceeding is just insulting to the readers.

It should be noted that this thread is about Mervins and Protos in Hokkaido should anyone be foolish enough to stray or suggest otherwise.

I know it seems like I came in here trolling for a fucking argument about something stupid, but in fact I was just really stoked to share how well my Proto worked for me in the deep stuff this year.:WTF:
 
1 - 20 of 49 Posts
Top