Deep Wax

It wouldn't wreck your board... it would just waste expensive wax lol

Caffeine said:

Hey all

I recently did a "deep wax" on my snowboard....waxing it once..scraping then waxing again...scraping then waxing again...then scraping....so I waxed and scraped it three times. I am just curious too know does this work? I hear the objective of this is to get as much wax into your pores as possible. This wouldn't wreck the board in any way would it? (Btw I didn't ride it in between waxings)

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Of course it will not damage the board. But it is not really doing any good/make a difference either.
BTW, snowboard bases do not have pores.

No, it's just a waste of wax. If you want a "deep" wax you need a hotbox. In your case you would have been better off laying down a cheap wax; then scraping while still warm, then using a quality wax and scraping/brushing after it's cooled.

Thats very insightful:thumbsup: I never thought of it that way

bseracka said:

No, it's just a waste of wax. If you want a "deep" wax you need a hotbox. In your case you would have been better off laying down a cheap wax; then scraping while still warm, then using a quality wax and scraping/brushing after it's cooled.

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Ok great. Wax is not a issue. Just as long as I have not damaged anything. Btw how hot is too hot for waxing a snowboard? My top sheet was warm to touch but not hot?

If the wax is smoking it's too hot. Melt point varies for different waxes so there's no set temp. ***REMEMBER TO KEEP YOUR IRON MOVING*** this will help prevent damage to the base unless your iron is stupid hot to start with.

bseracka said:

If the wax is smoking it's too hot. Melt point varies for different waxes so there's no set temp. ***REMEMBER TO KEEP YOUR IRON MOVING*** this will help prevent damage to the base unless your iron is stupid hot to start with.

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Ok good...I made sure to make sure my iron never smoked and kept the iron moving constantly and made sure it was at the correct temp. Thanks for the reassurance....it helps...I really stress out over my board lol

hktrdr said:

Of course it will not damage the board. But it is not really doing any good/make a difference either.
BTW, snowboard bases do not have pores.

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They don't? I was almost dead sure they did...

Caffeine said:

They don't? I was almost dead sure they did...

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Absolutely not. Old myth that keeps popping up but is 100% wrong.

Caffeine said:

Hey all

I recently did a "deep wax" on my snowboard....waxing it once..scraping then waxing again...scraping then waxing again...then scraping....so I waxed and scraped it three times. I am just curious too know does this work? I hear the objective of this is to get as much wax into your pores as possible. This wouldn't wreck the board in any way would it? (Btw I didn't ride it in between waxings)

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What temperature wax are you using?

3 good videos about waxing:

the ski fast wax guy talks about layering of the wax for better wax durability and faster ski/board

Caffeine said:

Ok great. Wax is not a issue. Just as long as I have not damaged anything. Btw how hot is too hot for waxing a snowboard? My top sheet was warm to touch but not hot?

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that's perfect

hktrdr said:

Absolutely not. Old myth that keeps popping up but is 100% wrong.

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The very definition of something being sintered is that it is porous...

ad911001 said:

The very definition of something being sintered is that it is porous...

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Yeah my base is sintered.

ad911001 said:

The very definition of something being sintered is that it is porous...

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Wrong. In fact, the opposite is true. Sintering refers to the process of creating a solid object out of powder using heat and/or pressure. In the process pores are often eliminated (although that can be controlled - however for snowboard bases there are effectively no pores left).

All of the steps in the above videos are not necessary are they?

I understand what sintering is (3 years of magnesium powder metallurgy research in college). I have yet to see a case where a sample has reached 100% theoretical density.

However, that is for metals and they definitely behave differently than plastics - so I am interested in your claims. Ever come across any papers or articles on ptex sintering?

how often do you and/or your gf deep wax?

hktrdr said:

BTW, snowboard bases do not have pores.

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Do you have any references to support that statement? Perhaps some training or credentials you can reference? Because I did a quick google and the first three refs that came up discussed the pores in sintered bases, including one that talked about seeing them under a microscope.

And while I freely admit to not being a materials expert, I understand basic physics well enough to understand that a sintering process hot enough to completely get rid of gaps between the granules would have to be hot enough to completely melt the granules -- effectively producing an extruded base.

But hey, maybe you're right and everyone else is wrong. Why don't you educate us. With some actual references and checkable information this time, instead of just a hand-wave.

Edit: actually, I went back after posting this and checked the rest of the first page of search results, and every single entry referenced pores in sintered bases.