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I'm getting a free demo tomorrow of a board of my choice, and apparently they have near everything. I have two primary questions, and am more than open to feedback and suggestions...

Height: 6'4"
Weight: 270
Boot Size: 12
Riding Style: Freeride (Groomers, pow)
Skill Level: Linked turn?

So I've been up 6 times now and don't think I'm where I should be since I'm pretty much self taught. The lesson I had on day one was useless since one of the guys faceplanted and the instructor then spent all his time with that one person.. I can go down a green toe and heel side and am just now pulling off some turns. I am taking another lesson at a different resort and expecting to come away linking turns.

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Q1: Can I get away without going to wide boards due to needing a longer board? The calc (not 100% accurate) says I should be around a 258, which is on par with a 168 sized board.

Q2: The board I demo I would like to consider buying since they are offering me 30% off, however the one I've been eyeing, Never Summer F1, I am concerned is too aggressive. If you could pick any board for yourself, that would be around 166-170 in size, what would it be?

Many thanks in advance!
 

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I'm getting a free demo tomorrow of a board of my choice, and apparently they have near everything. I have two primary questions, and am more than open to feedback and suggestions...

Height: 6'4"
Weight: 270
Boot Size: 12
Riding Style: Freeride (Groomers, pow)
Skill Level: Linked turn?

So I've been up 6 times now and don't think I'm where I should be since I'm pretty much self taught. The lesson I had on day one was useless since one of the guys faceplanted and the instructor then spent all his time with that one person.. I can go down a green toe and heel side and am just now pulling off some turns. I am taking another lesson at a different resort and expecting to come away linking turns.

So..

Q1: Can I get away without going to wide boards due to needing a longer board? The calc (not 100% accurate) says I should be around a 258, which is on par with a 168 sized board.

Q2: The board I demo I would like to consider buying since they are offering me 30% off, however the one I've been eyeing, Never Summer F1, I am concerned is too aggressive. If you could pick any board for yourself, that would be around 166-170 in size, what would it be?

Many thanks in advance!
1. Personally, with size 12 feet I would stick to wide boards. If you had low-profile boots and only rode on the East coast (where there is snow is typical man-made and firm) you could do a mid-wide board.

2. Yes, I would not recommend the F1 because it doesn't come in a wide model. Since you are still learning you aren't tilting the board up on edge as much as you will in the future and if you get toe/heel drag while going fast it will not be fun (you will immediately fall flat on your face).

I would normally discourage someone with only 6 days of riding from a stuff board like a Never Summer F1... BUT you are 270 lbs, so it's not like any board is going to be super stiff relative to you weight. More important... if you can DEMO a board it feels relatively easy to manipulate (i.e. not super unwieldy) then I say go for it - you usually know immediately if a board feels too stiff/long (in contrast, you might not notice if a board is too soft/short until you start riding some steeper, more advanced terrain).

Another option would be the Never Summer Heritage Wide or Cobra Wide (although I don't think they would be selling the Cobra). Do you know what brands are being demo'd?
 

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They carry all brands and generally 2 of every size. It is an interesting shop that I guess does most of its business through demos and sales as a result (you can apply the demo fee to the board purchase).

One of the boards we were discussing was the Legacy 166 (wide version of the SL). I'm just trying to wrap my head around the proper width for me since I will be on a longer board than most with 12s.
 

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I wear a size 12 boot & have no issues riding my Bully Doubledog with a 252mm waist, or my Camber LTD with a 258 waist. I do ride duck which helps keep my big boots & bindings from causing any drag. If you ride with a 0 in the rear binding, you may need to look at the wider boards, >258, otherwise you're probably ok as long as it's not a really narrow board <249
 

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They carry all brands and generally 2 of every size. It is an interesting shop that I guess does most of its business through demos and sales as a result (you can apply the demo fee to the board purchase).

One of the boards we were discussing was the Legacy 166 (wide version of the SL). I'm just trying to wrap my head around the proper width for me since I will be on a longer board than most with 12s.
Just to be clear, you need a wider board for your size 12 feet. You need a stiffer board for your 270 lbs body mass. (Maybe I misunderstood you when you wrote "I will be on a longer board than most with 12s", but I just didn't want there to be any confusion). If you ride in an area where there is a lot of powder snowfall, you will want a longer board to give you flotation over that deeper snow.

Longer length of a particular model tend to be stiffer (although it is possible for one model to be stiffer in a shorter length than another model board in a longer length).

One of my cabin mates is 6'7" 220 lbs with size 15 feet (former competitive heavyweight rower) and he just got a 2012 Legacy 166. For him is very playful and easy handling (esp compared to the circa 2000 170 cm Nitro Natural he was riding before that). For you I would go with the Heritage X 166 (Raptor X 165 might be too stiff for you).

PS: Most places that demo boards allow your to roll your demo fee into the board purchase price (try-before-you-buy).
 

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Thank you kindly for your thoughts.

It might help to let you know that I am in the SF Bay Area and my go to is Tahoe. I will also ride Park City and Mt Hood. However, I am loving my time on the mountian and I can see myself making trips just to find powder in the near future.
 

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Thank you kindly for your thoughts.

It might help to let you know that I am in the SF Bay Area and my go to is Tahoe. I will also ride Park City and Mt Hood. However, I am loving my time on the mountian and I can see myself making trips just to find powder in the near future.
Cool, yea in my opinion definitely go with a wide board because of the deeper snow you will encounter in places like Lake Tahoe and Park City (I am assuming you will go to Mt Hood in the summer).

If you went to a place that doesn't get much snow and you aren't turning very much/hard, you "might" be able to get away with a regular board ... but toe/heel drag is annoying - it's like driving in chain conditions where if you turn or apply your break too hard you lose control and crash. I don't know about you, but I don't like regularly snowboarding like how an "old granny" drives (no intended offense to elderly women).

Below is a video of me riding at Squaw Valley and the reason I crash at the end (around 1:00) is because the back of my heels dig into the snow (taking the pressure off the edge of my board). I have tiny size 8 boots and the board in the video is a 2009 Never Summer SL 155 with as 25.1 waist.

 

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Are you set on a NS deck? If not i would suggest a GNU Riders Choice 166W, LIB Skunk Ape 165W, Ride Berzerker 168W, Nitro Magnum or Nitro Pantera (pretty stiff though), K2 Slayblade. Im sure there are other options around for you as well. If you are set on NS then i agree with the Heritage X 166.

I personally have the Riders Choice 166W and it is awesome, I'm taller and weigh more than you with size 13's and it is a legit board, I have also owned the Trice 164.5 and Skunk ape 169. RC is my fav!
 

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Just called the shop and all the Heritage X boards are out. They don't stock Cobras yet, but based on what I've read I'm very curious about that board.

I will say as a new rider the biggest challenge isn't the slopes, it's carving through the advice you get from various sources. He was recommending a 160 revolver...

Ultimately I know I'm going to get a Raptor or similar board. I just need to get there...
 

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Are you set on a NS deck? If not i would suggest a GNU Riders Choice 166W, LIB Skunk Ape 165W, Ride Berzerker 168W, Nitro Magnum or Nitro Pantera (pretty stiff though), K2 Slayblade. Im sure there are other options around for you as well. If you are set on NS then i agree with the Heritage X 166.

I personally have the Riders Choice 166W and it is awesome, I'm taller and weigh more than you with size 13's and it is a legit board, I have also owned the Trice 164.5 and Skunk ape 169. RC is my fav!
I'm not set on any brand, as I don't feel I'm educated enough to compare. Just based off of what I read, which isn't always accurate, I have been leaning towards them. I always keep an open mind will add this to the list!

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Just called the shop and all the Heritage X boards are out. They don't stock Cobras yet, but based on what I've read I'm very curious about that board.

I will say as a new rider the biggest challenge isn't the slopes, it's carving through the advice you get from various sources. He was recommending a 160 revolver...

Ultimately I know I'm going to get a Raptor or similar board. I just need to get there...
No way I would recommend a 160 Revolver for some one at your weight. I specifically talked to Never Summer when helping my previously mentioned friend and they agree that a 160 Revolver was too soft for someone who is 220 lbs (let alone 270 lbs).

Hey, if it's there... try demo'ing the Raptor X 161 or 165, again you should know immediately if it is too stiff for you. Looking at the website, the Ride Berzeker 168W looks good based on the specs. Might be interesting to try the flat camber (i.e. no camber) K2 Slayblade 166. Hopefully you can try out a bunch of boards and see which one seems to fit you the best.
 

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No way I would recommend a 160 Revolver for some one at your weight. I specifically talked to Never Summer when helping my previously mentioned friend and they agree that a 160 Revolver was too soft for someone who is 220 lbs (let alone 270 lbs).

Hey, if it's there... try demo'ing the Raptor X 161 or 165, again you should know immediately if it is too stiff for you. Looking at the website, the Ride Berzeker 168W looks good based on the specs. Might be interesting to try the flat camber (i.e. no camber) K2 Slayblade 166. Hopefully you can try out a bunch of boards and see which one seems to fit you the best.
I only have the ability to choose one board for the day, which is why I created the thread. Trying to see some vets opinions to go in armed with the most information I can.
 

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I only have the ability to choose one board for the day, which is why I created the thread. Trying to see some vets opinions to go in armed with the most information I can.
So what boards do they have left? If they have the Raptor X 161 or 165, then try it out... who know you might like it.
 

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Yeah i would keep doing your own research, i don't know a lot about the raptor but from what i have heard it may be a little stiff for what you want and what you should have. I know i only have about 2 lbs on you but the flex of my RC is rated a 7 and i think it is near perfect for me. I have also done a heap of research into Ride's Berzerker, and i will be getting one as soon as the 2013 model gets to Australia next month. I believe dog funk has them at $342 (2012) which is a bargain if you ask me.

I think at size 12 you should look into 262mm+ as i reckon the 258mm waist may be too narrow.
 

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Thanks again for the answers all. I'll keep this in mind when I get there.

Lonerider - as much as I'd love to get a Raptor and try it out I just think I'd be doing myself a huge dissearvice. I have a 2001 Ride Yukon, which is about as stiff as you get. I want to see the other spectrum of boards closer to all mountain. This is why I was initially looking at the Legacy. The reviews on the Raptor are great, however all of them talk about how it will spit you out if you don't know what you are doing.
 

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While I'm a few inches shorter I'm same weight and shoe size. I've been riding the Jones Flagship 168w for Pow and groomers and it's the best all mtn board out there. camber underfoot, mellow mag, and rocker nose. this board handles all conditions really well and is stiff enough for a big rider!
 

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Thats a matter of personal opinion, ones man trash is another's treasure and vise versa!
I guess, as my own personal experience has been positive with the Jones I hated the Lib Tech I bought 2 yrs ago and sold it in short order! Yet many people like libs banana rocker...
 
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