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I haven't been around here in a while...

I posted a thread a while back about having pain on the ball of my foot and got many suggestions that I tried, but didn't have any luck with. I've been boarding for 8+ years and the past two have possibly been my least favorite as my feet hurt to the point where I can't finish a run without stopping. It's not the fit of my boots, i've been through many pairs. High and low end.

I have fairly wide, semi-flat feet.

Here's a list of some of the things that I have tried:
-Many different boots.
At least about 8 different pairs, all of them fit perfectly. Just to name a couple of them- Malamutes, Driver's, 32's, F22's, F4's, Libertine's, and various k2's. It seems as if the standard lacing worked best, BOA seemed to worsen the pain.

-Heel Lift's
I've given these a small test in every pair of boots that i've had. Didn't do anything in any of them

-J-Bars
Used in every boot that had any heel movement.

-Insoles
I've tried almost everything when it comes to inserts. Superfeet, Sole, Zap's, SoftSole, And a couple various other ones. The Superfeet helped a small amount, but the pain was still unbearable. I haven't used custom orthotics yet, but I plan on it this year.

-Bindings
I've used multiple bindings such as 390's, targas, K2's, Cartels, and Nrc's. The footbed canting on the Nrc's seemed to make the biggest improvement over anything else I have tried. The pain is still there, just not quite as bad as it is with standard bindings without the canting.

-Stance
I've tried almost every stance possible. Forward, duck, wide, narrow, etc. They all feel the same, but I tend to use a wide ducked out stance.

-Socks
I've tried many different socks without much difference between them. Seems as if thinner socks tend to work a little better for me though. Bunching is not the issue.


I'm not too sure if this means anything, but I've been riding an SL-R, Airobic, Goliath, and a Darkstar.

As you can see, I've tried almost everything. I need some help as to what else there is I can do.


UPDATE 2/22/12

After breaking in my 32 Prime boots and Sole Ed Viestur Footbeds, it seems as if my footpain has been alleviated a little bit. However, I'm now getting knee pain. Any suggestions as to what I can do? I have never had knee pain until I switched over to the 32 Prime's.
 

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You have not tried everything. Try some Flow bindings as a last resort. Traditional straps just might not be the best bet for you foot pains. This is the reason I use Flow bindings. Prolonged riding in traditional straps give me discomfort in my feet as well. I'm not entirely sure if it will help you since your pain is in the balls of your feet, but hey... you've pretty much exhausted every other option.

Are you doing a lot of presses? I noticed that the more I do tail presses and butters, the more my feet hurt. You just might need to go mellow for a while. You could also get it checked. Another alternative would be to down a couple of Ibuprofen pills before you shred. It will help decrease the pain.

Actually, your last resort would be to try a Burton ICS board with EST bindings. There is no hard plastic on the footbeds of those bindings. It is all dampening cushion.
 

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You have not tried everything. Try some Flow bindings as a last resort. Traditional straps just might not be the best bet for you foot pains. This is the reason I use Flow bindings. Prolonged riding in traditional straps give me discomfort in my feet as well. I'm not entirely sure if it will help you since your pain is in the balls of your feet, but hey... you've pretty much exhausted every other option.

Are you doing a lot of presses? I noticed that the more I do tail presses and butters, the more my feet hurt. You just might need to go mellow for a while. You could also get it checked. Another alternative would be to down a couple of Ibuprofen pills before you shred. It will help decrease the pain.

Actually, your last resort would be to try a Burton ICS board with EST bindings. There is no hard plastic on the footbeds of those bindings. It is all dampening cushion.
I've tried k2 Ctx cinche's, made my feet hurt even more. The Nrc's are essentially all cushion as well, another little bonus about them is that they also have the canted footbeds which seem to help a little.
 

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K2 Cinches and Flows are completely different. Cinches still use two straps. Flow uses a single cap to cover your whole foot. It is designed for even pressure distribution so it doesn't hit pressure points.
 

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K2 Cinches and Flows are completely different. Cinches still use two straps. Flow uses a single cap to cover your whole foot. It is designed for even pressure distribution so it doesn't hit pressure points.
True, I thought you were just talking about the step-in style though. I guess I could give them a try this year, but in the past I never liked them.
 

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True, I thought you were just talking about the step-in style though. I guess I could give them a try this year, but in the past I never liked them.
Depending on how long it's been, Flow has come a long way in design and especially weight. It also takes some getting used to if you've been on traditional bindings your whole snowboarding career.

But hey, if it solves your foot problem... it's worth getting used to :)
 

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You can be getting the pain in the ball the foot from several things.

1. Too much forward lean on your highbacks. If you have forward lean cranked on this can force the foot forward onto the ball. Back the highback right off and have it set so it only just touches the boot and see how that goes.

2. Your bindings are too narrow and are applying pressure to the sides of the boot/sole which can squeeze the foot and cause pain in the ball of the foot.

3. You have the toe strap done up too tight. Believe it or not but the toe strap does very little in the scheme of things. On toe side turns the turn is made with pressure of the toe pushing down on the board. On heel side turns it is not the toe lifting that makes the turn but the pressure applied by the back of the leg against the highback. Loosen off the toe strap a little and see how it goes.

Just remember though that sometimes when your feet have been cramped and in pain it takes a while for the effect to dissipate after you make the necessary adjustments. I know from personal experience that I had to get out of my bindings and loosen off my boot to get the blood flowing.

4. Your boots are over tightened or too narrow. Loosen your boots or go for a wide fit boot.

Thats the only suggestions I can make. I hope one of them helps.
 

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You can be getting the pain in the ball the foot from several things.

1. Too much forward lean on your highbacks. If you have forward lean cranked on this can force the foot forward onto the ball. Back the highback right off and have it set so it only just touches the boot and see how that goes.
-I tend not to use forward lean. I tend to find it useless.

2. Your bindings are too narrow and are applying pressure to the sides of the boot/sole which can squeeze the foot and cause pain in the ball of the foot.
-This was the case with some of the bindings. The NRC's don't give me this problem, which might be another reason why they seem to work best for me.

3. You have the toe strap done up too tight. Believe it or not but the toe strap does very little in the scheme of things. On toe side turns the turn is made with pressure of the toe pushing down on the board. On heel side turns it is not the toe lifting that makes the turn but the pressure applied by the back of the leg against the highback. Loosen off the toe strap a little and see how it goes.
-I tend to keep the toe strap on the loose side. Just snug enough so it doesn't move around.

Just remember though that sometimes when your feet have been cramped and in pain it takes a while for the effect to dissipate after you make the necessary adjustments. I know from personal experience that I had to get out of my bindings and loosen off my boot to get the blood flowing.

4. Your boots are over tightened or too narrow. Loosen your boots or go for a wide fit boot.
-I've tried wides and they almost seem too wide. I'll try on a couple other pairs though this year.

Thats the only suggestions I can make. I hope one of them helps.


I've done/tried most of that. I'll give the wide boots another go though.

Thanks.
 

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First, with semi flat feet, you should use some boot insert. Next, how tight do you tie your boots? You may be over tightening around the balls of your feet as I noticed that your foot pain is greater when you used boas versus using regular laces. Also, I've noticed you listed a few Salomon boots, which normally run a bit narrower in the toe box versus other brands, especially in the F series. It could be a combination of the things I just mentioned causing your pain.

If keeping the laces looser around the balls of your feet with a wider boot with insoles doesn't help, you might want to see a doctor.
 

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I had the same problem with a pair of Burton boots I had. I bought a pair of 32 Prion boots and have been in heaven ever since. Boa's are too tight on my feet and the laces of the 32's actually allow you to tighten/loosen the laces where you want them to be.

Also, I thought the boots I bought were too wide for my feet as well but after riding with them for a whole season, it definitely helps since your feet tend to swell a little from riding.

In my opinion, I'd say check out a few other brands of boots and definitely check into wide boots again.
 

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A few things:

1. is the pain under your big toe?
2. do you get the pain when you're not on your board?
3. which color Superfeet were you using?

Definitely see a doctor and see if you can get a referral for a foot specialist. It kind of sound like you pronate a lot (your arches sort of collapse making your weight shift to your big toe). Between smashing the ball of your foot and aggravating it going toe-side, there could be some damage to the ligaments running under your foot. If the ligament is continuously pulling away from the bone, the bone will sort of reach out to the ligament to get it re-attached. So this pain may be caused by putting all your weight onto this little forming bone spur. If your doctor can shift your weight off that thing, your skeleton will absorb the spur in time.

You can also try a different color Superfeet - one with more support. If you were using the black one, try the yellow. If yellow, try the green. The orange one might be the best - lots of support and a shock pad under the forefoot. Two birds, one stone. Hope this helps.
 

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A few things:

1. is the pain under your big toe?
Mostly.
2. do you get the pain when you're not on your board?
Never.
3. which color Superfeet were you using?
Orange. I tried one other color also, but I can't remember which one it was.

Definitely see a doctor and see if you can get a referral for a foot specialist. It kind of sound like you pronate a lot (your arches sort of collapse making your weight shift to your big toe). Between smashing the ball of your foot and aggravating it going toe-side, there could be some damage to the ligaments running under your foot. If the ligament is continuously pulling away from the bone, the bone will sort of reach out to the ligament to get it re-attached. So this pain may be caused by putting all your weight onto this little forming bone spur. If your doctor can shift your weight off that thing, your skeleton will absorb the spur in time.

You can also try a different color Superfeet - one with more support. If you were using the black one, try the yellow. If yellow, try the green. The orange one might be the best - lots of support and a shock pad under the forefoot. Two birds, one stone. Hope this helps.
I'll head out to a foot specialist if I can't find some way to get rid of the pain this year.
 

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Is the pain on 1 or both feet? you could try putting a wedge under the inside of the heal and add a little more padding under the arch this should put your foot in a better position and distribute you weight more on the heal and arch and less on the ball. I'd see the doctor but also try to find a professional boot fitter it will be worth it.
 

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Is the pain on 1 or both feet? you could try putting a wedge under the inside of the heal and add a little more padding under the arch this should put your foot in a better position and distribute you weight more on the heal and arch and less on the ball. I'd see the doctor but also try to find a professional boot fitter it will be worth it.
It's on both. The stores that I purchased the boots from all had professional boot-fitters.
 

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Go see a foot specialist. No point in spending any more money on boots and getting internet help (not that there's anything wrong with that), but a doctor who can examine your feet will be able to diagnose the problem better than anyone on this board.
 

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Anyone have any recommendations for a fairly wide boot? The stores in my area have a monstrous selection of boots, and trying them all on isn't really an option. I know that every person's foot is different, but i'm just looking for something that tends to run a little wider. 32's seemed better than the others, but they seemed uncomfortable around the heel.
 

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do you only get this pain from snowboarding? im thinking if you do actually have a foot problem you would feel pain when doing other physical activities.
 
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