The build and quality looks excellent and they feel plenty damn stiff. And that's without the inserts!Those vans verse are legit btw, can probably expect easily 100+ days on them, I have over 50 on mine and the fit is still excellent
Bummed they didn't work for me 😔.
Oh well. The search continues ish. I bought the ride lassos which have the best off the shelf fit for anything I've tried so I'm hopeful!