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I started snowboarding halfway through January. I bought a K2 Brigade 2012 with Burton Outpost bindings and Burton Invader Boots before I even hit the slopes, my intention was that I couldn't stop no matter what, because I invested money in it. First day I promised myself I'd never come back, but then the fact that I bought the gear helped a lot, I just had to learn, and now I'm comfortable doing some easy carving, scoring a number of grabs and frontside & backside 180. The Brigade has been a great learning board, but I really want to learn to ride park now, and I don't feel it suits it as well. I think I've developed some sort of fetish for rails and fun boxes, and that's what I want to excel at, as well as spinning and inverting on jumps. I'm looking for a new board to suit those needs, I'm 186 cm (6'1") and I weigh 161 pounds. The board shouldn't be completely useless in pow either, but it will be like 10% pow and 90% shredding the park and buttering in the future. (; I've been looking at the Neversummer SL, Neversummer Evo, K2 Parkstar, Libtech Travis Rice Pro, and all three Libtech Bananas (Skate, Magic, Attack). Recommendations? And what size should I get to suit my needs?
 

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As far as size goes I dont necessarily agree with the conventional sizing charts, especially for guys over 6 foot, the boards start to get pretty long and feel like you're turning a ship. And especially for the park, look to slightly smaller length than what would normally be recommended.

This is just my opinion, im sure you'll get some great feedback here. Good luck!
 

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Yeah, I'm recommended a 161 or 158 (My Brigade is 158), but I think I want to drop the length a bit, especially since park is what I'll be riding with it. And thanks!
 

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I'd say size wise you're looking at a 154-156 because of your weight. I weight 160 and ride a 152 for park but I am only 5'9. As far as the boards you listed I'd say you're top 3 in no particular order are the NS Evo, K2 Parkstar, and Lib Skate Banana. The SL is a great deck and can be used in the park but if you're focusing 90% of your riding on park and buttering the Evo should suit you much better. The Evo will ride fine in pow as well. The Travis Rice Pro is an all-mountain deck as well. It will do good in pow and off big jumps, but won't be as good as some of your other options for rails/boxes. Same with Lib's Bananas. The Skate banana is the one you want if you're focusing on rails/boxes/buttering with a small amount of pow riding. None of the boards you listed are going to be a noodly board aimed at ONLY riding rails and jibbing, but the Evo, Parkstar, and Skate Banana will probably be the most flexible out of the ones you listed.
 

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Ok thanks!:) But may I ask, what separates the Skate Banana from the other Bananas? It seems like it's leaning towards the Evo or the Skate for me, possibly the Parkstar but I'm currently favoring the two others I mentioned.
 

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I think the main difference is just the flex. There might be some other minor differences as well but the main thing is that the Skate Banana will feel noticeably softer than the Attack or Magic. I'd say the NS Evo will have the most durable build and does come with a 3 year warranty which I think is a pretty big deal. I wouldn't eliminate the Parkstar either though. The Parkstar has been my main park board and I liked it so much that I bought another one at the end of this year. It costs less than either of the other boards you listed and I think it's super fun for jibbing and buttering while still having enough support for big jumps and carving (I've never used it in pow before). Also keep in mind that all 3 of these boards will have a different profile, so that will depend on what feel you like more. The Parkstar is 80% flat, but rocker outside the bindings (or the last 10% on each end). The Evo is camber/rocker/camber. And I'm pretty sure the Skate Banana is complete rocker throughout the board.
 

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As far as size goes I dont necessarily agree with the conventional sizing charts, especially for guys over 6 foot, the boards start to get pretty long and feel like you're turning a ship. And especially for the park, look to slightly smaller length than what would normally be recommended.

This is just my opinion, im sure you'll get some great feedback here. Good luck!
i couldnt agree more with that statement. im 6'3 225 and i ride a 166. it feels like im piloting an aircraft carrier... not very nimble at all... ill be downsizing considerably to the 161-159 area. Sizing charts are not exactly what you should go by go demo a few boards and see how they feel.
 

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Thanks Rookie for that reply, I'll consider the Parkstar again, after all, it's cheaper, which could present better value for money, especially if it lives up to the Evo and the Skate Banana. What are the current price tags on the Parkstar though?
 

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I think the main difference is just the flex. There might be some other minor differences as well but the main thing is that the Skate Banana will feel noticeably softer than the Attack or Magic.
No! The 3 Bananas are completely different boards - not only different flex, but also different camber profiles, different sidecuts, etc. Quite different boards for different purposes.
But Rookie is correct that the Skate Banana is the one the OP wants out of those 3.
 

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How does the DC Ply compare to these models by the way? And if anyone knows (which I doubt), how do all these models compare to the 2012 K2 Brigade that I currently have?
 

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No! The 3 Bananas are completely different boards - not only different flex, but also different camber profiles, different sidecuts, etc. Quite different boards for different purposes.
But Rookie is correct that the Skate Banana is the one the OP wants out of those 3.
ahh thanks for correcting me on that!
 

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How does the DC Ply compare to these models by the way? And if anyone knows (which I doubt), how do all these models compare to the 2012 K2 Brigade that I currently have?
I don't know much about DC snowboards so I won't comment on that. And I don't want to compare the Brigade to NS and Lib because it's obviously a lot lower end board, but I'll do my best to compare to to the parkstar since that's what I own. First of all the board you have is longer than an ideal parkboard for you so after you cut about 4 cm off it should at least be a better fit. The profile is a little different too. Parkstar is 80% flat, 20% rocker and the Brigade is 95% flat, 5% rocker. This will make the parkstar more fun in the park. Other than that the Parkstar just has better tech in it. It has better figerglass layering, a better core, a better base, etc.

It's hard to compare K2, Lib Tech, and Never Summer because while the Parkstar, Skate Banana, and Evo are all geared more towards park, they all have their own distinct feel to them. If it's possible I'd suggest demoing them. If you can't, maybe you can visit a shop that sells them to get an idea of the construction and flex of each board. I think you will definitely be happy with any of those boards especially coming off a more entry level board.
 

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I started snowboarding halfway through January. I bought a K2 Brigade 2012 with Burton Outpost bindings and Burton Invader Boots before I even hit the slopes, my intention was that I couldn't stop no matter what, because I invested money in it. First day I promised myself I'd never come back, but then the fact that I bought the gear helped a lot, I just had to learn, and now I'm comfortable doing some easy carving, scoring a number of grabs and frontside & backside 180. The Brigade has been a great learning board, but I really want to learn to ride park now, and I don't feel it suits it as well. I think I've developed some sort of fetish for rails and fun boxes, and that's what I want to excel at, as well as spinning and inverting on jumps. I'm looking for a new board to suit those needs, I'm 186 cm (6'1") and I weigh 161 pounds. The board shouldn't be completely useless in pow either, but it will be like 10% pow and 90% shredding the park and buttering in the future. (; I've been looking at the Neversummer SL, Neversummer Evo, K2 Parkstar, Libtech Travis Rice Pro, and all three Libtech Bananas (Skate, Magic, Attack). Recommendations? And what size should I get to suit my needs?
You can get away with 154-156 with your weight, and blunted edges for sure.

And I agree with the others, knock the SL and Trice (and stiffer Bananas) off your list.

Which resort will you be riding? Are you keeping the brigade? If so, you can even get something softer if its' boxes and rails and buttering.
 

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No, I'm not planning on keeping the Brigade, and I'm riding in Norway. So resorts along the line of Vierli, Hemsedal, Hovden, Trysil, etc. So not like Whistler Blackcomb style. Right now the Libtech Skate Banana is the most accessible to me. And you guys are saying 154-156 with my weight. Lets just say I choose the Skate Banana, should I pick a 154 or 156?
 

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No, I'm not planning on keeping the Brigade, and I'm riding in Norway. So resorts along the line of Vierli, Hemsedal, Hovden, Trysil, etc. So not like Whistler Blackcomb style. Right now the Libtech Skate Banana is the most accessible to me. And you guys are saying 154-156 with my weight. Lets just say I choose the Skate Banana, should I pick a 154 or 156?
Personally I would choose the 154. You weigh the same as me and my park board is a 152. However, you are also about 4 inches taller. Since board length is based mostly on weight and riding style, I'd recommend the 154 for a 160 lb riding who will mainly ride park. Still, they're only 2 cm different so it won't matter a whole lot.
 

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No, I'm not planning on keeping the Brigade, and I'm riding in Norway. So resorts along the line of Vierli, Hemsedal, Hovden, Trysil, etc. So not like Whistler Blackcomb style. Right now the Libtech Skate Banana is the most accessible to me. And you guys are saying 154-156 with my weight. Lets just say I choose the Skate Banana, should I pick a 154 or 156?
154 and then forget about it.
 
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