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Either punch out or shave a bit off the outside of the liner or cut/make a X cut at the the point (from outside the liner to the inside)
See the bolded in your quote. A couple of things come to mind.Hi all,
Firstly, I've read through all of @Wiredsport's post regarding measurement and I measure up to:
263 Mondo (8.5 US Men) and I've gone ahead and measure my width too.
Left Foot: 10CM
Right Foot: 10.3CM
I currently ride a 8.5 Burton Photon and the length of it is great, no toe issue and heel hold is pretty decent however after 0.5 - an hour of riding, there's pain in the area highlighted below. After a 3 hour session, I can barely walk in the boot getting back to my car/hotel as that specific part is just pain, and its more of a bruised pain.
I already have the boot heat molded and also have custom insoles for my extremely flat feet, most of my running shoe exhibit wear and tear that shows that I usually over pronate due to my flat feet, hence the area that is highlighted above usually "pushes out" against my boot/shoe.
I've been to the local stores and when they measure they claim that I don't really have a wide feet and don't need a wide boot yet going of the chart itself seems like I'm bordering on E? I'm pretty much out of ideas and was wondering if getting a wider boot might solve the issue or make it less painful.
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I agree and don't dispute. Ime, it's like winning the lotto finding boots that don't need mods to get a performance slipper fit. Also great idea to open up the stance.I actually ran into a very similar issue with lateral pinky toe pain (I have a small bunion on my lateral feet too) worse on my front foot with pain only starting after riding with Burton boots in particular. It can get intense enough that I need to stop mid-run and rest, and always needed to take breaks in between runs for my feet to recover.
I think it's from the pressure that builds up during the turns while wearing not well-fitting boots. Opening up the binding angles supposedly helps with this pain as well. I'm riding +12/-12 now, but biggest thing is the right fitting boot. When I first started, I thought it was just normal to have that kind of pain, and rode with the pain for quite a long while, but once I found properly fitting boots, I don't have that pain at all!
I tried bunion silicone toe caps and modifying boot liners as well in the past, but those are just temporarily band-aid fixes. My lateral pinky toe joint even got red and swollen for quite a while after riding with those boots, so I definitely don't ride in uncomfortable or poorly-fitting boots at all anymore. After experiencing comfy well-fitting boots, I don't bother trying to mod boots that don't work, I just get different boots.
Right fitting boots makes such a huge impact on riding!!! I'm actually day 12 in a row of full days snowboarding, and 60+ day season so far, and my feet feel perfectly fine. Really only sore muscles and a few bumps/bruises from falls that are bothering me. Back when I was riding boots that didn't fit well, I was already suffering a ton after a few days due to foot pain, and often ended the day early because my foot couldn't take anymore.
Really wish you good luck finding a good fitting boots!! It makes such a big difference - can improve so much more quickly when your feet are comfy while riding!
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I respectfully disagree with the poster above. I suffered from the same hotspot issues in the past, and it is a boot shape/fit issue. I have flat feet as well that probably 'overpronate' as well, but that is just the way my feet are. Cutting the liner helps relieve the hotspot, but a different model boot that fits better overall helps a hell of a lot more. I have found different snowboard boot models that are perfectly comfortably without any modifications for all day riding many days in the row.
Just because a boot is comfortable in store while not riding, does not mean it is the right fit!! There are some very subtle differences in boot fit that can cause an issue while actually riding where pressure is pushing at different areas of your foot. If there are pressure-points / hotspots while riding, the boot shape is definitely not right for your foot, and trying to hack it to work will cause more trouble than it's worth. Cutting the liner can definitely improve the comfort, but may not fully the solve the issue. If it fixes the issue, that is great, but I would still recommend swapping boot models. I actually ended up with foot pain that lingered quite a while after my snowboarding trips because I was being cheap and trying to salvage boots with different hacks that are not the right fit. After that experience, I just threw away those boots because boots that cause pain and long-term issues will be more expensive than just buying a new pair of boots.
Of course, everyone's experience may vary, but that is my perspective.
Not all insoles are created equal. I had issues with arch, top foot pain. Finally tried a set of Ed Vissures "sole" the blue beefy kind. And it took a while for my foot to adjust to the support. If you go that route, just put them in your regular shoes and ware them around all the time for speed in the adjustment. Then just throw them in yer boots or get a second pair. For moi, definitely a converted believer.Hey, I've already gotten custom insoles (sidas) done and it didn't really alleviate the problem.