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hello everyone

I am new to snowboarding. Went through the school (2 days) and after that had 2-3 days on snow. Until now I always rented the equipment, but now I am looking to buy something.

I bought a few days ago used boots and they fit (burton ion), and now I am looking for some bindings and board

What would you recommend? I am 179, 83. boots size 9.5.

Currently I prefer riding on tracks, just making turns and playing around.

I read couple of texts about boards and types so I am looking at some rocker profile or something hybrid.
 

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hello everyone

I am new to snowboarding. Went through the school (2 days) and after that had 2-3 days on snow. Until now I always rented the equipment, but now I am looking to buy something.

I bought a few days ago used boots and they fit (burton ion), and now I am looking for some bindings and board

What would you recommend? I am 179, 83. boots size 9.5.

Currently I prefer riding on tracks, just making turns and playing around.

I read couple of texts about boards and types so I am looking at some rocker profile or something hybrid.
Nope, go to the Wiredsport's boot fitting thread ASAP. Never buy snowboarding boots used because you're never about the heat fitting or how much wear is on them.

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Hi guys.
I've been looking at the Bataleon She-W (2016/17) and from the reviews everyone seems to say it's soft, but not a noodle and can be used as an all mountain board without issues. Is it a similar ride to the Distortia?
I'm just struggling with which size to get!

If there are any Bataleon experts out there, I tested a Distortia in 146 a few years ago (my own setup is a 146 Burton Feather from 100 years ago) and it rode really nicely, but it seems like sizing down in the She-W might be a good idea? 143 and 140 are available, but 140 just seems a bit too short, or am I being sizist?
Any thoughts or definite no-no's on this?

I'm female, 51kg and 5'8" (often described as lanky).
I wear medium womens' bindings (containing super tight size UK6 / EU39 Nike boots) and waist width seems fine on my Burton feather set up.

I'm by no means advanced - I can get down the hill without issue and like to try little jumps at the side of the piste, but I found this much easier on a Bataleon than my regular board and would like to spend more time flinging myself off small kickers this year and introducing myself to the park.

I'm reluctant to buy before I try (poor student) but the Feather is an old lady and I'm in love with 3BT.

Sorry for the long-winded ramble, but you guys really seem to know your stuff and I'd appreciate your opinions. :)
 

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152 or 154

hi guys,
im tring to decide on whether i need a 152 or 154 board. I've been looking for a capita Doa for some time now and have come across one at the 152 length.
im roughly 5'8.5 or 174cm and 64kg (140lbs) boot size 7.
i ride a 149 Gentemstick on powder days but are looking to get more into the park and use the Doa as an all mountain board. i have spent some time riding a 156cm DC mlf, and i find it pretty tough to maneuver. love riding tree lines and want something than i can hit everything on.
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hi guys,
im tring to decide on whether i need a 152 or 154 board. I've been looking for a capita Doa for some time now and have come across one at the 152 length.
im roughly 5'8.5 or 174cm and 64kg (140lbs) boot size 7.
i ride a 149 Gentemstick on powder days but are looking to get more into the park and use the Doa as an all mountain board. i have spent some time riding a 156cm DC mlf, and i find it pretty tough to maneuver. love riding tree lines and want something than i can hit everything on.
cheers
For my size, 178, 74kg and boot size 10, it would be the 154.


For you, it's the 152 for sure
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I’m looking at the yes greats - inbetween the 156/158 - I’m 210lbs / size 10 boots.

Using it for more of freestyle approach since I like hitting natural features, spinning, buttering and riding switch. However, I also love riding really fast. I’m leaning towards the 158 since my weight however I could get a 156 - 2015 at a good price. Thoughts?
 

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I’m looking at the yes greats - inbetween the 156/158 - I’m 210lbs / size 10 boots.

Using it for more of freestyle approach since I like hitting natural features, spinning, buttering and riding switch. However, I also love riding really fast. I’m leaning towards the 158 since my weight however I could get a 156 - 2015 at a good price. Thoughts?
That board changed a bit from the 2015 version over to the 2016/2017 versions. 2015 was a more aggressive ride and the 2016/2017 is a more playful ride for buttering, switch etc.

I would stick with a post 2016 version of it at 156.
 

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Thanks Jonny. You don't think being 210lbs (before gear) and being size 10US is too small? I believe the waist width for the 156 is 251 but not sure how wide it is at the inserts..
 

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[QUOTE=While at vail, the head shop guy tells me i got screwed hard and should get my money back... what do y'all think..?

IMO yes without lubricant
 

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Bataleon fun kink vs Nitro T

Hi guys,
I am 72kg 180cm rider with 16 snowboarding years behind me.

I am 38 from Israel, riding 10 days a year... not really in good shape, I mean last 3 year no work out at all through the year(unfortunatly, but at least im realistic , Today I am riding a 2013 custom FV, bought it second hand when I came back to snowboarding after a lonnnng break.

I dont like to go too fast, I nearly dont go into the park, what I do love to do is small tricks on the slopes (buttering, little jumps etc...) but when conditions are good, I will ALWAYS prefer to go offpiste\freeride (when offpiste is powder and there are minimum chance of getting hurt I do love a good jump)

On my FV I feel 2 things, one it is unstable and lack edge hold on the piste(however it floats lovely outside the slopes) and I feel it is too stiff and I really need effort to do an ollie or any other air tricks(My guess is the FV rocker hybrid profile and the fact I am not in shape)

What I was thinking is to replace the board to something else, I was thinking and the capita DOA or Nitro T1, but I am afraid I will get another stiff board like my FV(it's also rated flex5 for some reason) I tought about a softer board like the batalion fun kink thats allmountain softer board with a 3bt though I am afraid I would loose on the offpiste since it is soft... more boards considered (since on sale in israel in a reasonable price for a man riding 10 days a year) are:
Nitro t1
Yes Basic

unfortunately they don't have lobster in stock or the Bataleaon whatever, they do have the global warmer but is more park oriented...

So I narrowed it down to these 2 the fun link and the T1.

Or I'd just stay with the Fv and wait for next year doa(it's sold out completely, in the world) (though it's not very offpiste material)

I am flying I 3 days to Milan for work and will use this excuse for a 3 days short trip to the alps...

Thanks


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New at using this cite but I'm trying to figure out what board I should go with this upcoming season I'm 5'8 145lbs. I ride a lot of everything but I would say my style is finesse I like jumps and rails I love natural features I like riding through trees. Last year was my first year riding I rode a junker 5150 vice 155 I learned a lot on it but it was very stiff hard for me to flex it and could not butter at all. I was looking at the never summer evo but can't decide between a 152 or a 154. And I don't even know if that's the right for and if maybe I should also consider other options.
Hey aaronxthoman,

I thought I'd give you some advice since we are practically the same size. I'm 5'8"-9", 145lbs on average. Been same size my entire life. Boot size 9.5 (shoes 9/9.5). Ride a 157 Neversummer Premier but going down to a 155... I'll break it down below:

Since I started riding as a teenager back in 2003, I have been riding an old school Neversummer Premier (the closest board now is the NS Heritage, except the Premier had the old school original camber shape). The board is also a medium-stiff and very damp, all mtn free ride champ. I got it as a kid when I came upon a good deal and jumped on it end of season. It was a 157, it fit up to my chin, which I felt would work just fine. I had no other choice as this was the only model and I couldn't wait until next season to pay $500++ for a new board.

I grew up riding this board, the 157 EVERYWHERE. Groomers, Trees, Pow, Park (nothing too crazy on rails). It works almost everywhere except hardcore rails which I don't do really either way. It's great, I love how it literally shreds. It leans towards more freeride with the 157 size, so a 155 would be slightly easier for both our height/weight and riding style. Now that I have much more experience here is how my go to sizing will be with future boards:


All MTN/FreeRide - 154-156 with 155 the sweet spot for everything
FreeRide/Pow - 157-162 with 158 the sweet spot for everything (honestly don't care for boards over 160, that's just me)
Park/Freestyle - 145-153 with 150 the sweet spot for everything (145 for rails only)


I always break down the % of my total riding and go from there. Personally, I mostly freeride with natural jumps, ride pow and trees, a few boxes, not too crazy on rails so lean heavy into an All MTN board. My next board will be an Academy Graduate (Never summer makes them) 155. They have an awesome board called The Team which is more park friendly but still can do all mountain (I would get that in a 152). Lastly, they have a board geared for park but can also do some free ride called the propacamba. This board won the 2019 good wood award (!) and you can get it in a 145 (rails and urban), 150 (park dominant) or 153 (a bit of everything, but I would get The Team board in 152) if you ride at least 50% non-park. The graduate is the most stiff/damp, the Team is the all around pro model, and the Procamba is the park/rails heavy board. A nice quiver they offer. Next year there is even a powder board. If you are an advanced rider and do mostly freeride get the Academy (I am), oherwise I'd go with the Team to kick a$$ everywhere including the entire park.

Since we on the lighter side of things, we don't need a longer board to compensate for extra weight. I'm going to Academy boards because they are literally made by Never summer and use camber technology (and all other NS technology). They are cheaper and you can get them for bigger discounts end of season. What you sacrifice is a fancy graphic or name recognition (who cares though, right?). I'm a NS fan boy but I don't care for their rocker profile. I do like their tech and build quality and graphics. I want my sharp camber edge to bomb and carve everything in existence. That's why my next board will be the Academy Graduate 155cm.

Cheers, I really hope this helps! NS is the bomb! They also make Sims in the same factory. There are many good companies out there. I like durability, no gimmicks, and due to my life long love affair with my NS Premier Dinosaur, I will transiton over to the Academy boards. (They are basically old school NS boards).

Let me know if this helps brother, be easy, be safe, have fun!

Peace!
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The Frosty rider works great!

worked perfectly for how I ride and my size.

5"8"
140-145lbs
mostly freeride, some freestyle in there

155, right on the money, overall range 153-156. and a 150 in full freestyle/park


Give it a try, the hardest part is figuring out how often you'll be using the board for its intended features. My advice , figure out what you like to do, how you like to ride, and from there in the search for the perfect board(s)!
 

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Hi,

I have a Never Summer Raptor 159 (2012) which I love for bombing groomers, powder etc. However I'm now interesting in getting something a bit more playful and start doing some tricks etc. Hence I turn to you... I'm very happy with NS so would not hesitate to buy another, perhaps the Proto Type Two? Unlikely to ever do much in terms of halfpipe, just want a more playful daily driver for hitting jumps and freestyle. Burton Nug looks interesting. Happy for any suggestions!

Stats:
- Weight: ~82kg (180lbs)
- Height: 186cm (~6'1")
- Boots: US 9 (Vans Andreas Wiig specifically)

FWIW I also have Union Force bindings from 2012, in that awesome hazard orange :grin:

Thanks in advance for any help!
I'm in a similar position. I've been riding a NS Premier (similar to Raptor just full camber) 157 my entire life, but I'm 65kg, 173cm. boots size 9. The 157 is a great bomber and powder board. I can do straight jumps and basic boxes in the park. It's not super easy to do 180/360 but can be done.

Hence, for my next board all mtn board I'm going down to 154/155, Just a hair, about 3cm drop. I'm also getting a more firm and damp board (academy graduate by neversummer). The board actually has a deeper sidecut (sharper turns in practice) and pretty much the same effective edge as my last board. Therefore, it'll be a sharper carver with more control under foot and easier jumps in the park. For me weight and overall body size the 155 is more fine tuned (like a suit) than the 157. Although I can ride a good 157 no problem everywhere.

If want to do more tricks and stick to your setup I'd recommend going down 3-5cm to around 154-156. That should be perfect for your weight. Good luck!
 

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I thought I'd give you some advice since we are practically the same size. I'm 5'8"-9", 145lbs on average. Been same size my entire life. Boot size 9.5 (shoes 9/9.5).
-DL
Hi DeLife,

We should really check this for you first before you make any buying choices. Snowboard boot size will always be smaller than shoe size (but only barefoot measurement should be used for selecting board size). Barefoot measurement is the key to snowboard gear sizing (board, boots and bindings) so it is critical that you get this right :). Rider height is not a factor.

Please measure your foot using this method:

Kick your heel (barefoot please, no socks) back against a wall. Mark the floor exactly at the tip of your toe (the one that sticks out furthest - which toe this is will vary by rider). Measure from the mark on the floor to the wall. That is your foot length and is the only measurement that you will want to use. Measure in centimeters if possible, but if not, take inches and multiply by 2.54 (example: an 11.25 inch foot x 2.54 = 28.57 centimeters). For width please place the inside (medial side) of your foot against a wall. Please then measure from the wall out to the widest point on the lateral (outside) of your foot
 

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Hi DeLife,

We should really check this for you first before you make any buying choices. Snowboard boot size will always be smaller than shoe size (but only barefoot measurement should be used for selecting board size). Barefoot measurement is the key to snowboard gear sizing (board, boots and bindings) so it is critical that you get this right :). Rider height is not a factor.

Please measure your foot using this method:

Kick your heel (barefoot please, no socks) back against a wall. Mark the floor exactly at the tip of your toe (the one that sticks out furthest - which toe this is will vary by rider). Measure from the mark on the floor to the wall. That is your foot length and is the only measurement that you will want to use. Measure in centimeters if possible, but if not, take inches and multiply by 2.54 (example: an 11.25 inch foot x 2.54 = 28.57 centimeters). For width please place the inside (medial side) of your foot against a wall. Please then measure from the wall out to the widest point on the lateral (outside) of your foot
Hi Thank you, I'd love to your input on choosing between a 156 and 152 for my next board (only sizes that I'm interested in the Academy Team 2019 for me). My ability is advanced/expert if that helps.

My boot size is 9.5 US (reg shoe size generally 9, sometimes 9.5). I snowboard in the Ride 92 (amazing boot!). I tried on 9s and they were too tight (i have slightly wider athletic foot with wider toe box). The boot size 9.5 was PERFECT. I love them. Anyways. I've always ridden a NS Premier 157 (from like 2003). Right now I'm torn between the 156 and the 152 Academy Team (2019 edition, newest model released).

I measured my foot with your method and I got 25.8cm.

My Ride style is mostly freeride (bombing everything, pow, trees, carve, small jumps, switch), but also ALL MTN and a sprinkle of park for jumps/boxes. I would like to do a hint a rails but that's my last priority (that's why the Team appeals to me as a board for more park riding).

The 157 has been a great all mtn freeride board. I can handle it, but it's a tad heavy for my liking. The obvious choice would be the 156 but do you think for my size (boots, weight, height) and ride style should I go for the 152 to be able to maneuver the board easier? how much pow float would I sacrifice? On paper, the effective edge and vario are almost identical between the 156 and the 152. (156= 121 and 750, 152 = 120 and 740).

Lastly, my friends who weight 20-30 lbs more than me (i'm 140-145lbs without any gear), ride 157-160, often a 157 like me! I think being on the lighter side the 152 should work for me. But will I still be able to bomb and be in control? Will the 156 be unforgiving in the park? I just want to add more diverse riding in the park when I get there but not lose the freeride control that I love. 156 or 152??? HELP!

Thanks so much for your suggestion...feeling a bit torn.
 

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My boot size is 9.5 US (reg shoe size generally 9, sometimes 9.5). I snowboard in the Ride 92 (amazing boot!). I tried on 9s and they were too tight (i have slightly wider athletic foot with wider toe box). The boot size 9.5 was PERFECT. I love them. Anyways. I've always ridden a NS Premier 157 (from like 2003). Right now I'm torn between the 156 and the 152 Academy Team (2019 edition, newest model released).

I measured my foot with your method and I got 25.8cm.

Hi,

25.8 cm is Mondopoint 260 or size 8 US in snowboard boots. The range for Mondopoint 260 is 25.6 cm to 26.0 cm. It is very likely that you have a wide foot. Please do measure your width as well as in my earlier post. All gear, Board, Bindings and Boots are based off of barefoot measurement. Please post up images of your barefoot measurements being taken. If you want to be really shocked at how well snowboarding gear can perform these steps will be well worth your time.

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Hi,

25.8 cm is Mondopoint 260 or size 8 US in snowboard boots. The range for Mondopoint 260 is 25.6 cm to 26.0 cm. It is very likely that you have a wide foot. Please do measure your width as well as in my earlier post. All gear, Board, Bindings and Boots are based off of barefoot measurement. Please post up images of your barefoot measurements being taken. If you want to be really shocked at how well snowboarding gear can perform these steps will be well worth your time.

STOKED!
Hi,

Here's the full stats. I'm very happy with my boots and bindings. Just trying to decide between 156 and 152 (Academy Team Snowboard 2016). I've always ridden a 157 but would like more freestyle ability and feel that the 157 is a tad big for me overall.

Foot Length: 26cm (pictures attached)
Foot Width: 10cm (pictures attached)
Weight: 140-145lbs without gear
Height: 5'8.5"
Boots: 9.5 (Ride 92s) (Not changing them, fit like a glove)
Bindings: Ride El Hefes (Large, 8-12) (not changing for now)

Will I sacrifice freeride ability (groomers, bombing, stability) with the 152? Or is that closer to my ideal size? Can I do park stuff (mostly small and medium jumps) and some rails on the 156?

Many thanks for your advice and help!

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Hi,

Here's the full stats. I'm very happy with my boots and bindings. Just trying to decide between 156 and 152 (Academy Team Snowboard 2016). I've always ridden a 157 but would like more freestyle ability and feel that the 157 is a tad big for me overall.

Foot Length: 26cm (pictures attached)
Foot Width: 10cm (pictures attached)
Weight: 140-145lbs without gear
Height: 5'8.5"
Boots: 9.5 (Ride 92s) (Not changing them, fit like a glove)
Bindings: Ride El Hefes (Large, 8-12) (not changing for now)

Will I sacrifice freeride ability (groomers, bombing, stability) with the 152? Or is that closer to my ideal size? Can I do park stuff (mostly small and medium jumps) and some rails on the 156?

Many thanks for your advice and help!

-DL
Hi,

26.0 cm is Mondopoint 260 or size 8 US in snowboard boots. 10 cm is an EE width which requires a very specific Wide boot. Your measurements will change (become wider and shorter when you remeasure using my instructions above (no socks, against a wall). Most riders with wide feet do start out riding in boots that are far too long. 9.5 (mondopoint 275) is designed for a rider who has a foot length of 275 mm (27.5 cm). Your foot is 26.0 long or 1.5 sizes too small for your boot. When you replace your boots (strongly suggested) you should go with the Burton Ruler Wide or Photon Wide in Mondopoint 260. Both are designed for EEE width.

Regardless of your boot choice, your bindings and board should both be sized to your barefoot measurement and weight only. In regards to board length, tip to tip length (i.e. 157) is a really poor indicator of performance and should not be used. The size that you will want will vary greatly from model to model (even within the same brand and riding style). This is why calculators that produce a board length as the result should always be avoided. They are responsible for so many incorrect (and expensive) board choices.
 

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26.0 cm is Mondopoint 260 or size 8 US in snowboard boots. 10 cm is an EE width which requires a very specific Wide boot. Your measurements will change (become wider and shorter when you remeasure using my instructions above (no socks, against a wall). Most riders with wide feet do start out riding in boots that are far too long. 9.5 (mondopoint 275) is designed for a rider who has a foot length of 275 mm (27.5 cm). Your foot is 26.0 long or 1.5 sizes too small for your boot. When you replace your boots (strongly suggested) you should go with the Burton Ruler Wide or Photon Wide in Mondopoint 260. Both are designed for EEE width.

Regardless of your boot choice, your bindings and board should both be sized to your barefoot measurement and weight only. In regards to board length, tip to tip length (i.e. 157) is a really poor indicator of performance and should not be used. The size that you will want will vary greatly from model to model (even within the same brand and riding style). This is why calculators that produce a board length as the result should always be avoided. They are responsible for so many incorrect (and expensive) board choices.
Thanks for your response. I followed your instructions and measured against a wall with a super tiny sock (didn't want to show you my super attractive naked feet ;) ). As I said mentioned, my boots are PERFECT at their size. I tried on size 8, 8.5 and 9 in my boots and they were insane tight because of my slightly wide feet. Currently, in my ride 92s 9.5 I have zero hip slippage, my front toes "lick" the tip of the boot and I feel great riding and walking (I got them molded to my feet, also highly recommend). Super happy and highly recommend the Ride 92s for anyone with similar feet for me.

You are right, every manufacturer is different and it's important to try on with snow/ski socks to find the right fit. I'm happy I have that with my boots.

My dilemma still stands between 156 and 152. I think the 152 will be a perfect board leaning on more park while the 56 will ride a bit better on powder. I'm pretty light so I think I should go down to 152 (they don't make this board in other sizes), worst case it'll be my park board at that size.

If you have any additional advice on the 56 vs 52 debate, please let me know. Cheers!
 
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