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So on salomons website it claims that the villain was softer than the sabotage, but on the good ride, they said the villain was more of a medium-aggressive all mountain bored and that the sabotage was softer. This really confused me, so wich board is better for park and ground shiz, and which one is all mountain??:laugh::laugh:
 

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They're both park boards. Villain has more snap and rebound than the Sabotage. Personally I would take the Villain over the Sabotage as it actually holds better when you rail a turn and doesn't want to wash out if you land deep on the tail.

Also stop reading The Good Ride those people are fucking morons.
 

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haha so the sabotage is actually softer? im just asking cuz the salomon website says the villain is softer
 

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Also stop reading The Good Ride those people are fucking morons.
Yes, stop going to a site that does actual reviews of products.

Go instead to Angry Snowboarders sad little website where he posts links to teasers of movies, and reviews them, lots of them. There you can also read the desperate and lonely ramblings of a very disturbed person.

Your site really is pitiful.
I actually prefer Yobeat.
 

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Yes, stop going to a site that does actual reviews of products.

Go instead to Angry Snowboarders sad little website where he posts links to teasers of movies, and reviews them, lots of them. There you can also read the desperate and lonely ramblings of a very disturbed person.

Your site really is pitiful.
I actually prefer Yobeat.
I actually prefer Yobeat as well wouldn't you know. Good Ride is still a bunch of fucking morons much like yourself.

To answer the question yes Sabotage is softer.
 

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Yes, stop going to a site that does actual reviews of products.

Go instead to Angry Snowboarders sad little website where he posts links to teasers of movies, and reviews them, lots of them. There you can also read the desperate and lonely ramblings of a very disturbed person.

Your site really is pitiful.
I actually prefer Yobeat.
the Good Ride has a lot of bad information.

Rome Mob Boss bindings "review."

They slot the Mobs in between the 390s and the Targas. Chew on that.
 

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So, I have recently discovered the villain. It looks like a good value board, and its much cheaper than a lot of the competition. It seems like a park board that is well rounded for all mountain aswell.

How does this board stack up against the NS proto ct or even better the hd? Is it softer, more park oriented, about the same, or less durable...? I'm up for any comparisions. I know some people in this forum are NS only riders, and others are anything but NS. Can I get some feedback from both sides?
 

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So, I have recently discovered the villain. It looks like a good value board, and its much cheaper than a lot of the competition. It seems like a park board that is well rounded for all mountain aswell.

How does this board stack up against the NS proto ct or even better the hd? Is it softer, more park oriented, about the same, or less durable...? I'm up for any comparisions. I know some people in this forum are NS only riders, and others are anything but NS. Can I get some feedback from both sides?
You need to figure out what type of camber profile you prefer, that is probably more important than any of the things you listed in terms of how it will ride. Some people prefer RCR which the villain is, and some people prefer CRC.
 

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Im laughing at your website, and you. You look like the love child of the Crypt Keeper and someone with downs.
Aww how cute you're making pop culture references. It's painfully obvious you're a cubicle jockey that has never snowboarded more than 10 days a season in your life and sucks at life. What's it like to live life so jealous of others?
 

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Back on topic... What are the main differences between the two? As it is noted Salomon say the Villain is a jib board that can do it all, TGR seems to say the Villian is super stiff all mountain freestyle board??? BA, you're saying it is a notch or two more stable than the Sabotage but it looks like you rated the Sabotage ahead of it in your end of year picks. Also, BA I know you know the Blacklist/Westmark very well. For a park board focusing mainly on medium jumps with the odd box thrown in would it be worth switching over to the Villain from the Westmark? Oh how I wish there were demos here, or the season were still on for that matter.
 

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yea on angry snowboarder it says the villain is softer but here ur saying the sabotage is softer. but on the web it also has the sabotage as one of ur top picks for a jump board but here ur saying the villain is a poppier ride. hahaha im kinda confused:dizzy::laugh:
 

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You're asking about 2013 I assume? I just got off the 2014 Sabotage 4 days ago, rode the 2014 Villain 2 weeks before that, and I own the 2014 Blacklist.

Super stiff is not accurate. Villain is more middle of the road park flex that can handle all mountain while the Sabotage is a little softer and more lower end of the middle of the road park flex that caters better to jibbing.

Camber profiles play a huge part in these boards as well.

For anyone curious I'm going off the 2014 stuff I recently rode.
 

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Yeah, it was for 2013 but it's a good bet that it hasn't changed up too much. Thanks for the quick reply.
 

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so for some one like me who is pretty light but likes to butter and press as much as boost high off medium sized kickers what would u suggest. also when r u gonna post reviews for the 2014s? thanks for all this help btw:thumbsup:
 

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Not to hijack this thread too much but for just goofing around out east, no pow just ripping around hitting jumps and flat boxes which of three would be recommended? I have the Westmark but kinda want to size up and I don't really need the float or looseness of full rocker.
 

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2014 reviews hit this summer like a blockbuster. Also you guys aren't reading the Classic version reviews are you? Those boards are a little different.

If you're looking for something playful you can pop with both are solid choices I'd probably go Sabotage.

For ice coast playfulness that grips get the Villain the camber profile is better for edge hold.
 
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