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Loose bindings that shift and turn

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Hello experienced riders. I need help on this issue I have.

I did some reading about potential explanations for running into these problems. Such as temperature changes, crossed threads, screw length wrong etc.

I tried my fix with plummers tape. The screws are in good and tight, but my baseplates still shift around even when screwed down.

What is the right fix?? Help!

I should note the bindings are only a season old and the board is brand new.
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Something is not right. No baseplate should have any play in it. We need more details. Brand of bindings?
we cant possibly know the answer to this without closeup pictures of your feet
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Maybe too long of screws?
Or for some reason the inserts have less depth? (Which you can’t change, but you could try shorter screws)
Remove the binding and carefully screw in a bolt to see where it bottoms out. If it goes deeper than where it would sit in your base plate you are fine for screw length.
Did you lose the washers that came with the bindings?
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The washers are there. The bindings are union flight pros that only have a few days on them and the board is a new capita slush slasher.

What is a good way to see the screw depth, when it has to go through the washer, baseplate, then into the hole?
I meant like take off your binding and just use a single loose bolt. You should have roughy your base plate height before the bolt bottoms out.
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Hello experienced riders. I need help on this issue I have.

I did some reading about potential explanations for running into these problems. Such as temperature changes, crossed threads, screw length wrong etc.

I tried my fix with plummers tape. The screws are in good and tight, but my baseplates still shift around even when screwed down.

What is the right fix?? Help!

I should note the bindings are only a season old and the board is brand new.
The screws may not actually be in good and tight. The teeth of the baseplate to binding interface must also be perfectly aligned. How you ride and the snow conditions also come into play. Differing topsheet thickness and screw length can also be an issue, bottoming the screws out, or not grabbing enough in the first place. On fast groomer days carving I can get away with using setting 6 on a dewalt drill with a not so fresh battery. Setting 5 for a fresh battery. Setting 6 for a fresh battery if conditions are wet. Setting 7 for turning in deep pow, or else my bindings are doing what yours do by midday.

I tighten the first screw until the clutch stops the spinning of the drill, I stop at that very moment. I then go over to the screw across diagonally and do the same. I get all four screwed in lightly like this, then return to each screw and punch it with the drill, and see it turn just a little bit more. Now they are actually tight with no play to allow them to unthread while riding.

Don't even attempt this if your power drill does not have a reliable clutch.

By hand I just use a BF screwdriver and drive them in the same X method, but when I come back for that second final turn on each screw I wrap my hand around the screwdriver and preload my wrist, kind of a J shape with my wrist and hand, so I can really crank them down.
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Too long screws would be most obivious reasons for not getting bindingd tight. Binding screws dont need much force to lock binding in place. You can measure insert depth and how much screw sticks out from baseplate to get idea if you have correct screws. Do not try tighten them if they dont get tight with minor force.
Oh wow. I always heard the advice NOT to use power tools for screwing in your bindings as that is how you damage things! Seen a lot of stripped inserts or dimped boards and ruined snowboards bc of that. Praying for the safety of your snowboard and bindings. If bindings are loose despite good hand tightening... I think may be something else going on.

Strongly hand tightened is more than sufficient to keep bindings tight for multiple weeks of hard riding. Normal to have some loosening if you ride a lot, just retighten. If getting loose quickly add some blue locite or nail polish or plumbers tape to the screws. Most screws come from factory with some blue locite.

The Burton EST tool that can be set at a right angle (EST® Tool | Burton.com Winter 2023) is extremely helpful for tightening that last bit securely.
Misinformation creates fear. Idiots with plug in drills add to that. Properly set clutch on a battery operated drill has worked for many years, board inserts are fine across 20 or so boards.
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This is gonna end up being user error. You'd have to have 8 screws all significantly too long or 8 inserts all significantly too short and those are the only two possibilities. Neither of which I have seen in the literal thousands of setups I've messed with. Or theres the possibilty it is a troll post. So en

And power tools are fine if used properly but can destroy boards. Hand tightening can't. We live in a society we have to protect from the weakest link, of which there are many. Thus everyone should use a manual screwdriver so nobody screws up their board, everyone should make sure to remove their baby from their stroller before collapsing it, and we should tell everyone not to use medication if they're allergic to it or its ingredients.
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Few other possibilities, screws have already been cross threaded...possibly from a power tool.
Slight chance screws are not proper tight. Teeth on disk/binding are toast or incompatible.

Wish the OP would post pics or try some of the shit suggested.

And yeah don't use power tools. The time you'll save doing those 8-12 turns with a hand driver is not worth the potential damage a crossed thread or too deep a screw can make.
I'd want to see a pic of the bindings, of the binding plate, of the bolts, of the bolts fully screwed into the holes without the bindings, and a video of the bolts screwed in with the bindings and the bindings being wiggled.
To everyone who replied, thank you for all of your valuable input! The issue was that the screws were too long and bottomed out before they could fully tighten the bindings.

Sorry I had no pictures or videos and for responding so late, I was on my other setup for the remainder of the season. I usually hand tighten everything and is all gucci.

Now, if only winter can come sooner, it is already such a warm spring where I live.

-SMILE
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