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Lol @ calling it 'production art'.

I have to admit that I want to demo this entire triple camber bs. I really didn't like a couple of their boards I tried though. They just felt weirdly hooky to me and the flex didn't feel right. One I tried was decent, like I'd have felt fine riding it all day.
 

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About c3 and the hinge point: I had figured there wasn’t an actual rocker section in c3 based on the JL. After some back and forth on here about it, I checked out some more mellow c3 offerings (lib and GNU) and those did have a slight rocker in the middle that was barely something noticeable when pushing down on a flat surface. The c3 in the JL is different. It has taller camber and a flat section in the middle (which is what I recall seeing in a lot of old school cambered boards after they were broken in). Conclusion: not all c3 is created equal.
I have the JL short wide - there is no rocker in the middle of the C3 camber, it has no magnatraction and it is awesome! I also agree with you, TNT sucks and they really have to reconsider using a sintered base for a $650 board!
 

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I have the JL short wide - there is no rocker in the middle of the C3 camber, it has no magnatraction and it is awesome! I also agree with you, TNT sucks and they really have to reconsider using a sintered base for a $650 board!
damn it seems like the base is always the problem, thats why I sold mine too!
 

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The best tires when pushing your car around corners are those that break predictably. Yes they will eventually lose grip, but not all at once and not unpredictably. Second tier tires might hold a little longer but break traction all at once, sending your rear end out and into the guard rail. This is kind of how a see mag. I'd rather just use camber and not be surprised.
 

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damn it seems like the base is always the problem, thats why I sold mine too!
I got a pretty deep structure put on it to not create suction in wet snow, which really helped. Its just nowhere near as fast as the sintered 9900 base on my old ultra mind expander, but I haven't had a problem getting through flat cat tracks on my local mountain and this board is not for speed . The jury is still out on the amplid Pentaquark base as I only rode it once with factory wax...this is a camber board that does not need magnatraction to keep an edge - it rails!
 

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damn it seems like the base is always the problem, thats why I sold mine too!
I've noticed that with practically all LT boards the base colours always bleed heaps when waxing regardless of vintage. It's a pain when there is white in the base as it discolours the wax a fair bit. It mostly disappears on the scrape though but no other boards do it. Must just be the paint they use on the graphic sheets. Not really a fan of their art work as well.
 

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I've noticed that with practically all LT boards the base colours always bleed heaps when waxing regardless of vintage. It's a pain when there is white in the base as it discolours the wax a fair bit. It mostly disappears on the scrape though but no other boards do it. Must just be the paint they use on the graphic sheets. Not really a fan of their art work as well.
I have noticed the wax discoloration on a few over the years as well, but for some reason I feel like I’ve seen it on a non-Mervin board before but I can’t put my finger on it.
Regarding the artwork on their boards: over the years, I’ve not been a fan of most of it. However, there have been a couple of boards that I thought the artwork/graphics looked really good. Then, unfortunately, the following year Lib always seems to change it to something terrible. Obviously these things are very subjective. That being said, I’ve also thought the graphics on most Burton boards look worse. To me, they either tend to look like they stole a graphic from an old school pinball machine and blindly put it on a board, or the other look resembles something akin to someone sitting down at a computer going through generic art files looking for something and they just get bored and chose some random clip and then don’t even bother the size/crop it to the board. Now that I’m thinking about it, I am liking the direction that K2 is going with the Landscape line this year… I like being able to see parts of the core and some of the tech.
Anyways, back to Lib/mag: I really wish they would take mag away from the c3 boards. Their quality control and their opinions about what happens with a handmade board: if they are letting tip/tail shapes leave the factory like the picture earlier in the thread, I’d hate to imagine how off the tolerances could be in the mag from board to board.
 

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You don’t need mag so much out west. If it’s a one board quiver you’re looking for I would go with hybrid RCR or S camber. As far as the specific deck is concerned, what type of riding you like will dictate.


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Yeah I am looking for a one board quiver so I will check out hybrid RCR boards to see if that will fit my needs.
 

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What is the real difference between camber and rocker boards from a control aspect?
examples exaggerated, when weighted a rocker board looks like this: U when weighted a camber board looks like this: ___ as you can see the effective edge and contact points on rocker are minimized and on camber they are in full contact with the snow
 

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All brands make their own version of edgetech, Magnetraction is just Lib/Gnu name for it, and it is definitely the most aggressive. I ride in the northeast and deal with plenty of ice and I am not a fan of magnetraction, it's just too much. Capita, Yes, Jones, Arbor, all have similar edgetech that works well and isn't so extreme. Honestly edgetech isn't really needed and shouldn't be the selling point that it is, get a camber dominant profile and keep your edges nice and sharp and you will be good.
I totally agree. I had a Jones Lone Wolf, loved it in powder, but carving groomers the magnatraction really slowed down the turn. That was my last encounter with bumpy edges for a resort board. A nice sharp beveled edge is all you need for resort riding. Now, if you're splitboarding out of bounds and may encounter some ice en route or dropping a big line and are uncertain of the previous snow conditions, then wavey edges make good sense.
 
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