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My everyday board is a 163cm Never Summer Legacy. This weekend I had the chance to spend a lot of time on the Marhar Lumberjack, it was the first chance I've had to get some quality time on a board other than my own, so here are my thoughts;

Rider Stats
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lb
Stance: Regular, 22", 15/-15
Bindings: Rome 390 Boss

Board Stats

Size: 152cm
Shape: True twin, zero camber, "sideways rocker"

Conditions: 45 degrees, low visibility, heavy and wet slush snow




Going in I knew that the board is designed as a freestyle powder board, we didn't have powder but I wanted to try my limited freestyle on it to see how it compares to my all-mountain board.

The first thing that I noticed was the flex and poppiness of the Lumberjack. It's ridiculously easy to press, and the loading the tail gave me a nice pop up and forward when I rode. I'm new to freestyle, so this was the first time that I felt like I was really getting that pop sensation from a board. My ollies were more consistently ollies instead of "hops", more effortless. On the other hand, the combination of the softness and shortness of the board caught me off guard and I took her too far back on one tail press and flopped right onto my back. It was just a learning curve moment, and it helped me know where the sweet spot on the tail was located. Again, presses were effortless and stable with little to no drift that happens with my butters at times.

The board has a low swing weight, I really noticed it when popping 180s on wallsides, the spins were more natural and effortless. Sometimes I feel like I'm muscling the spin on my longer board. I was also impressed with the stability that I felt when landing jumps. The wide nature of the board gave me a nice platform to land on, and I managed to get my first indy grab. I was stoked to finally move beyond straight airs.



I also noticed that the Lumberjack has a shorter turning radius. On average it's listed as a 6.6m sidecut (7.6/4.5/7.6), and I noticed that difference on my first few runs. I would imagine that this helps the board to manage trees very well.

I didn't like the Lumberjack for charging the heavy, chunked out, and slushy snow. The board was getting knocked around pretty good in those conditions, while my Never Summer Legacy plowed through with a surfy ride.

TL;DR

Super playful, pop city, easy to spin, stable on jumps, and likely good in the trees and pow. It wouldn't be my first choice in heavy, wet, and choppy snow if your goal is just to charge it.
 

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Thanks for the review! I've been really eyeing this board up recently and I'm pretty dead-set on it being my next deck. I have a Flight Attendant 162 for charging around but I really want a shorter playful board to have fun with in trees and for spinning/buttering.

Next step is to find the damn thing. Marhar's website is sold out and finding a dealer which web presence isn't exactly a piece of cake. Maybe I'll have to wait until next year, but oh well!

Thanks Again!
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Thanks for the review! I've been really eyeing this board up recently and I'm pretty dead-set on it being my next deck. I have a Flight Attendant 162 for charging around but I really want a shorter playful board to have fun with in trees and for spinning/buttering.

Next step is to find the damn thing. Marhar's website is sold out and finding a dealer which web presence isn't exactly a piece of cake. Maybe I'll have to wait until next year, but oh well!

Thanks Again!
ThatsNotFennel
Yeah, I've noticed that it's basically not online too. I take it that you're not in Michigan? Have you thought about contacting a shop to have it shipped? It sucks that it might take a bunch of calls..

https://www.marharsnowboards.com/pages/find-a-store
 

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First things first.... Awesome grab Brah!! :cheer: You must be Stoked that you got such a great pic of it as well! :grin:


....Again, presses were effortless and stable with little to no drift that happens with my butters at times......
By "Drift" do you mean a tendency to turn or slide to one side or the other while pressed? And if so,.. does it drift to the same side fairly consistently?

I have a tendency to do the same thing,.. especially now that I'm trying to get all my pre-injury mojo back. My drift or spin direction seems to be consistently heel, or frontside! Not sure how to correct for that. But I'm wondering if we're having the same issue. Be nice if someone could tell us what was responsible for correcting for that on this ride. ;)

....I didn't like the Lumberjack for charging the heavy, chunked out, and slushy snow. The board was getting knocked around pretty good in those conditions, while my Never Summer Legacy plowed through with a surfy ride....
On this issue,... you may have just been riding too short a board. I know you lost a ton of weight! (...no pun intended!) :laugh: Even so... My very first thought upon reading the board specs you posted was, "DAMN,.. that's awfully short deck for a guy your size!!!"

I noticed the same thing in chunky spring conditions when riding my 157 Proto. I was getting bucked, thrown around and completely frying my thighs trying to blast thru that stuff.

I switched to my 163W Arbor and just plowed up, over or thru it with ease! The longer board was stiffer & more stable plowing thru those conditions without needing near as much work from my legs. Whereas the shorter, softer Proto was flexing and bucking me around going thru the chop!

If you have an another opportunity this season... maybe try it on a longer version of that deck for the same conditions. See if the ride improves.
 

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Hey Chomps, thanks for the comments on the grab. I was stoked man. @david_z caught it for me.

The Lumberjack is designed to be ridden up to 10cm shorter, but I'd opt for the 155cm if I pull the trigger on it- but I don't think the extra inch would make much difference in this case. It seems to be related to the softer flex of the ride versus the stiffer all-mountain, but you might have a point that the overall shortness of the model contributes.

The drift- Yeah if I'm not using proper technique then my tail presses drift toeside. It's not a "turn" so much as a slight drift like you'd get with a bad alignment on your car. It's because I'm weighting my toe slightly when pressing. It's just a matter of us leaning slightly during the press.
 

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Thanks for the review! I've been really eyeing this board up recently and I'm pretty dead-set on it being my next deck. I have a Flight Attendant 162 for charging around but I really want a shorter playful board to have fun with in trees and for spinning/buttering.

Next step is to find the damn thing. Marhar's website is sold out and finding a dealer which web presence isn't exactly a piece of cake. Maybe I'll have to wait until next year, but oh well!

Thanks Again!
ThatsNotFennel
100% sold out globally. I was trying to find one a couple weeks ago. Gone.
 

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Has anyone called them? I called Marhar with some questions about the Archaic and afterwards decided to go with a 154. They told me that my local shop had it in inventory.... when I got to the shop, it wasn't there. I was totally bummed out, but the shop said they would try to order one. Got a call 3 days later saying none were available to order, but Marhar offered to build one for me.... Boom! I should have it by the end of this week. Marhar even called me to confirm, said that if it wasn't done by the time I took my trip early February, that they would send a Demo so I had something to ride. Maybe they just happened to have the materials around for the Archaic and I got lucky, but worth a shot if you really want the board.
 

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Has anyone called them?
Great advice & definitely worth a shot -- Nate & Josh are pretty cool guys and they may be inclined to build one if you contact them directly.

This board was a fairly limited release, first year of this model and they had a tough time pre-selling it to shops on account of such a shitty winter last year so I know they did not make very many of them.
 

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Stoked I just grabbed a 155 off snowboard trader on Facebook about 10 mins ago. Knowing me I prob wont like it and will sell it in a couple weeks.
 

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Stoked I just grabbed a 155 off snowboard trader on Facebook about 10 mins ago. Knowing me I prob wont like it and will sell it in a couple weeks.
If you decide to sell it let me know. I will be up in your part of the woods in a couple weeks and what beats local pick up? :wink:
 

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If you decide to sell it let me know. I will be up in your part of the woods in a couple weeks and what beats local pick up? :wink:
Local pick up with delivery of a 6 pack of micro brew?? :blink:


>:)
 
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