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Hey dudes... wanted your opinions on the snowboarding scene in LA. I have been living in Germany the past 7 years with easy access to the Alps, 4 hour drives and 40 euro ski passes.
Got a job offer in LA im seriously considering. Was curious where people normally go and how you can save money on boarding.
Mostly flying to tahoe, utah, wyoming is better than driving up to big bear/mammoth?

How is the nightlife and things like that as well. I have never lived in the west coast so I know 0.
In the end i realize it wont be as good as Europe but at least I will be near a beach :D
 

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LA,... :blink:

Lets see,... Traffic,... Smog,... Traffic,... crime,... traffic,... expensive,.. fucking GRIDLOCKED traffic,...!!! :blink:

....aaaand Hot Chicks in bikinis, short-shorts, sun dresses in Jan. & Feb,... So,..? What's NOT to love!!! :lol:
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OTOH,... you're generally only a 2-3 hour drive (...depending on Traffic) ;) from anything & everything you might want to do. Mountains,.. desert,... beaches,.. TJ,.. etc. etc. Aaaall sorts of different year round activities. :grin:


As for night life,..??? Seriously??? :blink: It's freakin' LA ffs!! :facepalm3:

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Mammoth is a pretty great area. The ski area lives up to it's name and the surrounding area is gorgeous. The Sierra eastside has all sorts of great stuff. I prefer it over Tahoe in a lot of ways. The snowboard mountaineering you can do in the Sierras is second to none.

That said, LA is not all that convenient for riding in good terrain. Mammoth is the most reliable and it's good haul to get there. Then again, it sounds like you are already doing that.

Plenty of nightlife and that sort of thing going on around LA. That isn't even remotely an issue. Good wine country nearby too.

Rents and buying a home can be insanely expensive in California though. Lots of stories about people making six figure salaries who couldn't make it work. It seems to be related to the bay area mostly, but LA is very much comparable cost wise.
 

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LA to mammoth is 5 hours right?
That doesn't sound too bad... how about lift ticket prices?
typically around ~100 bucks?
 

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Born and raised Valley boy here (though I've lived in Boston for almost 7 years now).

Riding: Mammoth is your closest big deal spot. It's a bit of a hike, but not much more than what it sounds like you're already doing. Big bear is where I did most of my riding when I was out there. Nothing like the scale you see at Mammoth or the other big boys, but it has its good days. Mountain High is your mosquito bite quick day trip kind of place. We used to ditch school at lunch time and hurry up there (~90 minute drive) and buy RFID day passes off of people leaving for ten bucks but I'm sure they've found a way to squash that practice. Mt High is a baby compared to the others but it serves its purpose.

Saving Money: Not sure what season passes cost these days but I always figure that's the best way to save if you go a lot. Super markets and other places were always throwing out ticket deals to save a few bucks here and there.

Other than that: everything Chomps said...Not sure what kind of work you do but cost of living has skyrocketed there in the past 5 years. It's not at the point the Bay area is yet, but its rate of increase is higher. Traffic sucks, girls are hot, people are either awesome or fake and shitty. I'm in no hurry to move back there but its still a pretty awesome place if you like a giant city to get lost within its mini cities
 

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You're also forgetting resorts like Mt. Baldy (if it has snow) or Mt. High if you need a quick fix and don't want to do the drive to Bear or Mammoth.

The traffic does suck, but it's bearable. I feel that DC has worst traffic than LA nowadays.

As far as nightlife is considered...you pretty much can't beat it.

You'll love LA. Personally, I think it's great for riding. It's close enough to enjoy some great mountains while allowing you to surf and skate.

Just don't get hurt....medical costs in the US will rape you.
 

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You'll probably avoid all the problems with the city itself by living in the suburbs TBH. South of LA, like Anaheim, Irvine, is really nice IMHO, but all concrete. And strip malls, as far as the eye can see (I don't know where you're going to be, are you looking at downtown LA?). Though places were open on Christmas and New Year's, which was awesome, cause otherwise we would have starved XD

The skier went to grad school in Irvine. I can ask him for pointers if you'd like, but note that this is all coming from a grad student's perspective. A 'burbs kid who grew up in an affluent neighborhood on the East Coast, no less. Feel free to PM me.
 

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You'll probably avoid all the problems with the city itself by living in the suburbs TBH. South of LA, like Anaheim, Irvine, is really nice IMHO, but all concrete. And strip malls, as far as the eye can see (I don't know where you're going to be, are you looking at downtown LA?). Though places were open on Christmas and New Year's, which was awesome, cause otherwise we would have starved XD

The skier went to grad school in Irvine. I can ask him for pointers if you'd like, but note that this is all coming from a grad student's perspective. A 'burbs kid who grew up in an affluent neighborhood on the East Coast, no less. Feel free to PM me.
I would be working in El Segundo, so probably living on the West side.... So I guess the only option is driving to mammoth? doesnt sound terrible for a 5 hour drive.
 

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I would be working in El Segundo, so probably living on the West side.... So I guess the only option is driving to mammoth? doesnt sound terrible for a 5 hour drive.
Not sure why el segundo would limit you to Mammoth only. It's definitely the best in the area, but big bear and mt high are still options even from there.
 

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L.A. can be really cool, but at the same time it can be shitty. Outside of the traffic and surplus of people, you will always have something to do.

Here's the deal on snowboarding. Mammoth's day passes are stupid expensive, it's over $100 right now. But, it has a ton of terrain and you will see why it is so expensive. 20 or so minutes from Mammoth is June Mountain which can be fun, but I don't go there often since I stay minutes from Mammoth. If you want to do day trips, the best places are Snow Summit, Big Bear, or Snow Valley. Those 3 are close to each other and about 2 hours from L.A.. Screw Mountain High, that is about 1 1/2 hours from L.A, the place is terrible due to the limited snow and how the mountain is set up (personal bias, I had a season pass there for a few years).

I don't know how many days you will be riding, but for a few years now, you can purchase a 4 pack of tickets to Mammoth, Big Bear and the others from Costco. It's a big warehouse type store and will save you some money. I don't know if they will do it next year, but I don't see why they wouldn't. If you plan on riding a lot and know you can commit to it, I would buy the California pass asap. A couple seasons ago, Big Bear, Mammoth, Snow Summit, and June are all now owned by the same company, so the California pass is good at all four Mountains. So, if you do a few day trips and a couple Mammoth trips, you should come out on ahead. But, you will have to figure it out on your own. I've done it the past few years and definitely got my monies worth.

I've made it to Mammoth in just over 5 hours from where I live, but it normally takes 6 hours. Also, the above travel times are estimates and vary due to traffic, weather, and shit happening. One piece of advice, you will most often save money on gas if you stop at the indian casino in Bishop, the town before Mammoth.

Lastly, all these mountains are packed on weekends, so if you can make it up weekdays, you will be stoked.
 

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I would be working in El Segundo, so probably living on the West side.... So I guess the only option is driving to mammoth? doesnt sound terrible for a 5 hour drive.
Depends how you feel about boarding. Mammoth would be worth a 5-hour drive for me. Just like Baker is worth the 3 hours and MORE (heh we're lucky Baker is only 3 hours away).
 

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Couple of more questions:
-Do you guys ever hit tahoe/park cityjackson hole from LA? (is that doable and not crazy expensive with flights/ or driving to tahoe)
-How many days can a Socal boarder typically get a year?
-Hows the snow? I just bought a jones flagship cause I love freeriding out in the Alps... can i get my pow fix pretty good at mammoth or big bear? (or did i just waste alot of money?)
 

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Couple of more questions:
-Do you guys ever hit tahoe/park cityjackson hole from LA? (is that doable and not crazy expensive with flights/ or driving to tahoe)
-How many days can a Socal boarder typically get a year?
-Hows the snow? I just bought a jones flagship cause I love freeriding out in the Alps... can i get my pow fix pretty good at mammoth or big bear? (or did i just waste alot of money?)
-I never made any crazy long venture when I lived back home but I suppose its doable. I would say tahoe is the most realistic with Jackson being the least
-Dude! Cali had a stupid awesome year. Mammoth is still going and I believe they plan to stay open until August. That's not exactly the norm, but it's not uncommon for the season to run in to June. So depending on your schedule, you could get out tons. Season passes to Mt High are pretty cheap and even though it's not even close to the best mountain, you can get some turns in on a regular basis and then make more fun trips to Bear/Mammoth. Mt High is also part of the Max Pass so you could do an add on for 329 and have all the goods of a Max.
-Snow/Pow: For Mt high; don't hold your breath. Bear: I've never hit much in the way of powder. I remember them being big on groomers and park but it's been almost ten years since I've been there so it could be better than I remember. Mammoth is friggin Mammoth..you're good.
 

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Couple of more questions:
-Do you guys ever hit tahoe/park cityjackson hole from LA? (is that doable and not crazy expensive with flights/ or driving to tahoe)
-How many days can a Socal boarder typically get a year?
-Hows the snow? I just bought a jones flagship cause I love freeriding out in the Alps... can i get my pow fix pretty good at mammoth or big bear? (or did i just waste alot of money?)
1. I have never been to Tahoe, park city or Jackson Hole. Tahoe would probably be the farthest I would drive to out of those places. Jackson Hole and Park City are three states away from California so I would probably fly if necessary.

2. In the past season, the first Socal resort opened around Thanksgiving and the last resort closed mid-april. I think Mammoth (which is not really in Southern California) opened up even earlier and will be open to August I think this year. I have done 40 days on snow this past season. You can do as much as you want as long as you are motivated, have money, and have time. If you get a season pass (mine is at Mt. High, I think I paid $300) and use it you will save tons/thousands of dollars. Go on weekdays and you will get your money's worth and have a blast (especially after a fresh snow storm).

3. Unfortunately, snow quality is not the greatest. As you may have heard, there's been a drought in the past few years, but this year was actually really good. We had a few good storms this past season where in past seasons you could count them with one hand and you would be content with man made snow. Who knows what next season will be like.

Congratulations on the new board. Unfortunately the true Socal resorts (Mt. High, Bear, Snow Summit, Snow valley, etc) don't have that much elevation to really push that board to its limits. Most runs will be groomed and freestyle riding is more popular here. Also powder just doesn't last very long here. the snow will just get chewed up by the afternoon. It snows more frequently and heavier in Mammoth so that would be your best chance to get fresh snow. Not sure what snow your snow is like in the Alps. I am guessing it is more drier and lighter given the elevation whereas our fresh snow tends to be a little wetter and heavier. That being said, I wouldn't say you wasted money, you just have to go buy a freestyle board now :grin: and save the flag for trips to the big mountains.
 

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Nice! thanks for the info guys. i think i would be going to mammoth more so than the smaller resorts... i am not really much into freestyle. (my old body gets beaten up) but I am looking to some longer trips to all the big resorts on the west coast. Jackson hole especially
 

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Nice! thanks for the info guys. i think i would be going to mammoth more so than the smaller resorts... i am not really much into freestyle. (my old body gets beaten up) but I am looking to some longer trips to all the big resorts on the west coast. Jackson hole especially


Jackson hole is not the west coast. It's in Wyoming. Mammoth and Tahoe are the Sierras which is the closest location for bigger riding.


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A lot of the best resorts are within a 2 or 3 hour flight from California. Most are direct flights as well.

Talking about Utah, Vancouver BC, and Alberta.

I live in the Bay Area and used to drive up to Tahoe every weekend ( aka, the Grind ). Nowadays, I just take a 3 or 4 day weekend per month and spend a couple of days boarding. Tahoe has a bunch of resorts, worth it IMHO to fly into Reno or Sacramento to check them out. Southwest Airlines pretty cheap if you setup your schedule right.


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