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Looking to upgrade to a set on Burton Step On Boots & Bindings and as my local TSA only go down to a UK size 8 was wanting to double check my sizing before ordering online. I've done a bit of reading on here, including using the most excellent snowboardbootsizer but feel i need to double check the results. I've measured my feet diligently as per the instructions and my right and left are 24.2cm and 24.0cm long respectively, and 9.5cm and 9.2cm wide. This means I'm a UK 5.5?

I currently have a couple pairs of 32s in a UK7 that feel fine (as far as I know) apart from the occasional (or sometimes frequent) foot pain, but I just thought that was a snowboarding thing? I've triple checked my measurements but they're definitely right - I normally wear a UK7 trainer and shoes, except for Vivo Barefoots, where I'm a UK6. Should I go all the way down to 5.5 or am I better at 6? And not to go even further down the rabbit hole but if my feet are a size 5.5/6 would I be better suited to a board with a narrower waist?
 

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Foot pain is more often than not caused by boots that are too big. Snowboard boots should absolutely be smaller than street shoes.
 

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The trouble is your feet are E width, which is probably why you use UK7; the extra length makes up for your 32's being too narrow. Standard Burtons are D width, & Burton Wide are EEE. So if you're determined to get Step Ons, you'll have to be prepared for some modifications. You might get away with the standard width if you wear very thin socks & heat-mould them, but lots of people have hot spots by the outside toe cleat on Step Ons so you're probably pushing your luck.
 

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Damn, but thank you. Would that be a UK 6 or 5.5 then? Do you have a link to a width chart so I can see how far away from a D I am? Thinking I need to change boots anyways - today has been a school day!
 

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Thanks again. Is the width size in mm on the chart the mid-point or the upper limit? I.e. at a 6.5US is a D = 87mm to 91mm, or 89mm to 94mm?

It appears Burton in the UK only sell boots down to 7US/6UK/250 mondo :-(. Looks like I'll have to try and find a pair to try on at least.
 

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Hi Scocherry,

Your feet are Mondopoint 240 and 245 and are E width. I would suggest not going by the UK size as that is a conversion. Mondopoint is not a conversion, it is simply your foot measurement in mm. The smallest wide boots currently made are Mondopoint 250 (US 7). You will not want Burton's Wide models as those are designed for EEE width. The best fit for you will be either the Salomon Dialogue Wide or Synapse Wide in Mondopoint 250. Only Salomon designs their Wide boots for E width.

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Thanks Wiredsport, and thanks for your measuring tool - I've been so wrong up until now :-(. You don't think I would be able to heat mould any of the 250 Burton Boots to fit or does the nature of the step on binding proclude this as Radialhead mentioned above?
 

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Lets confirm your measurements with some images of your barefoot measurements being taken. If correct, you are at the higher side of E width. That would not be suggested in a "normal" D width and the Burton Wide's would be too wide.

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Like wired said, there are a few things that you can do to help make the boots fit a little bigger, but none of them are really ideal. These include using higher volume insoles etc.

Again, not ideal at all, but might hold you over till you're able to get the boots that wired recommended.
 

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Hi,

Your are mondopoint 240 for both feet. We should get your width measurements again with your feet reversed. For width please place the inside (medial side) of your foot against a wall. Please then measure from the wall out to the widest point on the lateral (outside) of your foot.
 

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Got it. Both feet are Mondopoint 240 or size 6 US in snowboard boots. Both feet are E width. The best fit for you will be the Salomon Wide boots in Mondopoint 250 or size 7 US).

If the assistance provided has been helpful to you, your positive reviews on either of the sites below (or both) would be greatly appreciated. STOKED!




 

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Thank You WiredSport and I'll definitely leave reviews for you as you've been great.

Just a bit pissed off as I was fitted for boots (and bindings and a board) at a big store when I first started boarding (5 years ago) and they put me in a 32 Lashed UK7 - and I've always experienced foot pain to some level, at some point, every day I've boarded :-(. I'm now wondering if my Medium Burton Cartels are too big and my boards too!! Guess I'll organise a set of boots first and go from there. Thanks again.
 

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Just a bit pissed off as I was fitted for boots (and bindings and a board) at a big store when I first started boarding (5 years ago) and they put me in a 32 Lashed UK7 - and I've always experienced foot pain to some level, at some point, every day I've boarded :-(.
Welcome ti the club. Almost everyone here went through this story of too big boots etc. You're in good company. Hope, your foot pain issues will get better with the new boots. Sell your current gear if now everything is too large/wide, and replace it with better sized stuff. Someone will be happy to ride your old gear, you'll be happy to have new stuff. Almost win-wind, and a lesson learned.

@Wiredsport : where can one find which width the different brands/models of boots are? I don't remember that I ever saw that D or E a.s.o. measure meantioned in a catalog. I remember Deeluxe being quite wide, and they come in small men's sizes. Aren't they wide enough for OP?
 

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Thank You WiredSport and I'll definitely leave reviews for you as you've been great.

Just a bit pissed off as I was fitted for boots (and bindings and a board) at a big store when I first started boarding (5 years ago) and they put me in a 32 Lashed UK7 - and I've always experienced foot pain to some level, at some point, every day I've boarded :-(. I'm now wondering if my Medium Burton Cartels are too big and my boards too!! Guess I'll organise a set of boots first and go from there. Thanks again.
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I wish that I could say that this was unusual but shops get this wrong all the time. You are a clear size Small in Cartels (6-8 US). 24 cm feet are a challenging fit for men's boards. There are some great threads here about boards for small footed riders. STOKED!
 
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