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I just read on another site that Niseko gets mobbed by Australians during January. My sister lives in Geelong. I've spent 4 months there so I can deal with rowdy australians but now I am a bit worried that maybe it will be hard to find a place to stay. The flight is way cheaper around the 15th of January but I am wondering if I should wait until the 15th of February. I'm trying to go for 2 weeks.
I'm looking for a quiet powder getaway vs. apres ski madness.

any tips on best time to go to get powder but also avoid the crowds?
 

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I am no expert, but the research I have been doing suggests Rusutsu may be what your looking for. Same island and more remote with less people? :dunno:
 

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Rusutsu is a little too remote if you ask me. It's a day trip kind of place (and a fucking awesome one at that). There's not as much to do at night like there is in Niseko. However, if you're purely chasing the pow then it'd be unreal. It's a very nice hill.

Another quiet mountain outside of Niseko (about a 20-30min bus ride) is Moiwa. Not many lifts but heaps of snow and no crowds, there's a free shuttle that goes there from Niseko village. Worth a couple of days out there too.

There's no doubt there are heaps of Aussies at Niseko around then. It's busy, but not ridiculously busy. I was there for January this year and it was ok. There's so much mountain there that you'll always find a quiet spot, especially if you're willing to head into the side country. I'd stay there again.
 

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Rusutsu over niseko any day. Being an Aussie myself it shames me to say that the aussies have wrecked niseko. But its true. The only good thing is that they all flock like sheep to the same spot.
I know rusutsu inside out and there are some magic lines there that stay untracked got a long time. That shit just doesnt happen in niseko. Late feb is usually epic.
 

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Being an Aussie myself it shames me to say that the aussies have wrecked niseko.
I do agree with you on this one although I hadn't been to Niseko prior to this year so I have no reference for how it might have changed. It's a little embarrassing to say the least sometimes. I went with a great crew - focused on boarding, a few quiet beers of an evening and a good feed and we were stoked.

We were there for Australia day and normally I'd crack out the Aussie flag and wear it as a cape for the day to show off a bit of Aussie pride (not in the "F%ck yeah! Straya C#nt!" bogan style though) but it stayed firmly tucked away in my board bag because I was too ashamed to be put in the same class as some of the dickheads we saw running around.

Harsh but true.

Next time I head to Japan I'll be going somewhere different, that's not to say I didn't love every minute of Niseko.
 

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Its becoming a problem all over Japan.

I say this as a Brit and anyone who has been to Spain knows we have ruined a large part of Spain and do so every summer. I am ashamed to be British when I go there.

If you come to Japan to board, wherever you are from, realize that most mountain locations are quiet peaceful places.

If you want to get rowdy do so in a bar that allows that sort of thing and not in the streets when people are sleeping. Also have manners on the mountain and don't go around screaming and shouting.

The only person to be badly injured in an avy at Nozawa last year was an Aussie in a place he shouldn't have been on a day that no one should be in the side country.

Also learn the rules for getting in the hot springs, the number of times I have had to explain and apologize to the locals for the lack of manners.

Simply put, don't go past the entrance with your shoes on there will be a step up and that is usually the place where your shoes come off, watch what others do.

Wash properly before you get in to the hot tub and towel off while in the bathing area so you don't get the changing area floor dripping wet.
 

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Ah the bath house rules. I've heard this is where the foreigners really screw the pooch on protocol. I guess I shouldn't be surprised you don't mention Americans. Everyone probably just expects us to fuck it up.
 

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Rusutsu over niseko any day. Being an Aussie myself it shames me to say that the aussies have wrecked niseko. But its true. The only good thing is that they all flock like sheep to the same spot.
I know rusutsu inside out and there are some magic lines there that stay untracked got a long time. That shit just doesnt happen in niseko. Late feb is usually epic.
Are there any other places to stay in Rusutsu besides the two big hotels and the two weird looking guest house places?
 

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Are there any other places to stay in Rusutsu besides the two big hotels and the two weird looking guest house places?
Try Deep powder tours they had heaps off accommodation options when we went there.
I will never go back to Niseko, as its so much better going to quieter areas.
 

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Are there any other places to stay in Rusutsu besides the two big hotels and the two weird looking guest house places?
There is the resort north and south wings and then the tower. Travel lodge which is right near the north wing and onsen. Pension yamada. Lila husset. Pension clydesdale and more I just cant remember them.
If you want to get fancy use google translate and search in japanese.
 

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Flying with Jetstar from Australia to Tokyo mid December it felt like the entire plane was Aussies going snowboarding/skiing... Walking down the isles (to the toilets etc), all i heard was Negaaarrrrno (Nagano) and knee-say-ko (niseko)... Not to mention the baggage claim belt was 90% snow gear. Safe to say they are coming out in numbers again this year...

Its funny, i think Australians believe there is only 2 places where snow falls in Japan (the aforementioned places).
 

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Ah the bath house rules. I've heard this is where the foreigners really screw the pooch on protocol. I guess I shouldn't be surprised you don't mention Americans. Everyone probably just expects us to fuck it up.
LOL! Ashamedly so... us narrow minded, spoiled, ill taught Americans. There should be some country etiquette classes for complete retards. Something like the park etiquette test my local hill has. Pass the test, pay $5, then your allowed in. Less injury, less fighting, better place :thumbsup:
 

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Just got back from my annual all-you-can eat pow-buffet in Nissy-co. The place was heaving with Aussies as usual. Met some cool Aussies but also ran across some annoying bogans, but you take the good with the bad.

Was driving down the main road past seicomart around midnight and saw a bunch of young and obviously drunk bogans walking in the middle of the road oblivious to traffic in blizzard conditions. One was wearing shorts (!!!) and another was angry with me because I made them get out of the middle of the road so he decided to throw snow chunks at my car as I passed.

My advice is to avoid Hirafu if you can.
 
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