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Help me u fellow big guys,

I am an old heavy-set (read fat rad dad) guy, "forever intermediate" rider, looking to buy a park deck to force myself to start progressing.
About 260lbs / 5'10'' / US 10.5, riding an old Yes Optimistic 157 as my all-mountain (best board I ever had... since way back when).
Now want something fun and catch free (confidence building), but live where we ride mostly icy conditions.

What is the most poppy model (maybe stiff with lots of camber and some edge-tech like magnetraction) to launch a big guy and handle the abuse... in like a 157w-ish size?

Most grateful if any of you with similar build and experience, could provide some of your hard earned wisdom!?
Even more grateful if any of you younger and thinner and more advanced riders, could manage to keep away from this very post and comment elsewhere :D

Cheers!

/ TT
 

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We talked about an Evil Twin which is a mid flex, the Bataleon BOSS is just a slightly stiffer evil twin. That could be an option. Obviously Bataleon will be the most catch free of any.
 

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Help me u fellow big guys,

I am an old heavy-set (read fat rad dad) guy, "forever intermediate" rider, looking to buy a park deck to force myself to start progressing.
About 260lbs / 5'10'' / US 10.5, riding an old Yes Optimistic 157 as my all-mountain (best board I ever had... since way back when).
Now want something fun and catch free (confidence building), but live where we ride mostly icy conditions.

What is the most poppy model (maybe stiff with lots of camber and some edge-tech like magnetraction) to launch a big guy and handle the abuse... in like a 157w-ish size?

Most grateful if any of you with similar build and experience, could provide some of your hard earned wisdom!?
Even more grateful if any of you younger and thinner and more advanced riders, could manage to keep away from this very post and comment elsewhere :D

Cheers!

/ TT
Hey TT,

I'm similar size, weight and boot. I don't have the hard-won wisdom, but I've been looking for such a board as well. anything in 157 might be a bit soft for you.

Lib Tech TRS springs to mind. AM freestyle deck. Camber, magnetraction, true twin ( 0deg setback).


Jones Ultra Mountain Twin might work for you also. esp with the 3d shaping at the nose and tail.

Any chance of a demo day for Jones or Lib tech boards at your local hill or within a reasonable few hours drive away?
 

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Ultra Mountain Twin is a great idea. TRS too.

T.Rice Pro could also work if you want something rockered in the middle.
 

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Hey TT,

I'm similar size, weight and boot. I don't have the hard-won wisdom, but I've been looking for such a board as well. anything in 157 might be a bit soft for you.

Lib Tech TRS springs to mind. AM freestyle deck. Camber, magnetraction, true twin ( 0deg setback).


Jones Ultra Mountain Twin might work for you also. esp with the 3d shaping at the nose and tail.

Any chance of a demo day for Jones or Lib tech boards at your local hill or within a reasonable few hours drive away?
Thanks a lot for your input, MysteryMan!
No board demos in sight, but have tried an TRS and found it too stiff to press and hooky.
Have been seriously thinking about the Jones Ultra Mountain Twin, just wish it was reported as more poppy.
 

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We talked about an Evil Twin which is a mid flex, the Bataleon BOSS is just a slightly stiffer evil twin. That could be an option. Obviously Bataleon will be the most catch free of any.
Thanks again, Sir hacked-a-lot-in-1989!
I am very much enticed by the Bataleon Boss, and think it may actually lead the race as of now.
Still, in a perfect world they would have put a few small bumps by the insert packs (or other edge-grip-tech) ;D
 

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2022 Yes Greats 159?

As I could see that 2022 model of The Greats is back in good standing with Angry, and almost everyone seem to love it... it slides up as a real contender:

1, Bataleon Boss 156w or 159w
2, Yes Greats 159
3, Jones Ultra Mountain Twin 159w

Any owners of these exact models, and if so... whats the pro's and con's according to you?
 

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2022 Yes Greats 159?

As I could see that 2022 model of The Greats is back in good standing with Angry, and almost everyone seem to love it... it slides up as a real contender:

1, Bataleon Boss 156w or 159w
2, Yes Greats 159
3, Jones Ultra Mountain Twin 159w

Any owners of these exact models, and if so... whats the pro's and con's according to you?
After watching the latest SnowboardPr-Camp shill video, I think I am about to boycot The N-decker Group :(
 

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After watching the latest SnowboardProCamp shill video, I think I am about to boycot The Nidecker Group :(
What you need to do is boycott snowboardprocamp. kevin will do anything to keep his channel going, IMO. Nidecker send him free stuff, presumably. then surprise surprise kevin does a product placement video. what did you expect?
Someone in the comments mentioned that he was sponsored by Nidecker now...Well, that would explain it for sure.
kevin getting boots (initially) the same size as his street shoes suggests that he has NFI about boot fit.

Also, TT - if you boycott the Nidecker Group, that cuts you off from a lot of good gear.
Do the smart thing. Rule kevin out of your life. :giggle:

The Nidecker group owns Jones, Yes, Slash, Now, Flow & Rome SDS, in addition to Low Pressure Studio in Europe, which is home to the Bataleon, Lobster and Switchback brands. There may be more, but those are the ones that I know of.

By and large I agree with what you are saying on your 'open letter' thread to Nidecker group.
Buying off/sponsoring the social media channels with the most reach is not the way to develop snowboarding.
 

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What you need to do is boycott snowboardprocamp. kevin will do anything to keep his channel going, IMO. Nidecker send him free stuff, presumably. then surprise surprise kevin does a product placement video. what did you expect?
Someone in the comments mentioned that he was sponsored by Nidecker now...Well, that would explain it for sure.
kevin getting boots (initially) the same size as his street shoes suggests that he has NFI about boot fit.

Also, TT - if you boycott the Nidecker Group, that cuts you off from a lot of good gear.
Do the smart thing. Rule kevin out of your life. :giggle:

The Nidecker group owns Jones, Yes, Slash, Now, Flow & Rome SDS, in addition to Low Pressure Studio in Europe, which is home to the Bataleon, Lobster and Switchback brands. There may be more, but those are the ones that I know of.

By and large I agree with what you are saying on your 'open letter' thread to Nidecker group.
Buying off/sponsoring the social media channels with the most reach is not the way to develop snowboarding.
Thanks!
I actually do understand all said points... and will be hurting when/if I boycot... B U T... find it much more rewarding busting out a Method (one day hopefully a Grasser) Air, displaying the logo of a brand that I better can stand behind. Difficult things are usually more rewarding, in the end :geek:
 

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Looking into Arbor now... and curious about their 'grip tech' + 'uprise fenders' = anyone with experience?
The Wasteland looks interesting, but a bit afraid of the Camber version since it does not have the uprise fenders and worried that the Rocker version will not carve enough.
What Arbor model would you say is the most similar to Boss / Greats / UMT?
 
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