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Our local hill is not very large. At best, 1000 vert. We only get powder ever so often. Usually it's about 5 or 6 inches, several times it's 8-12 inches and maybe a couple times over a foot. There are entire seasons whereas we only get very little snow overall.

It's driving me nuts that even at the end of the season, by 9:30, there are what looks like choppy seas left over. 15 runs, 6 of which are the longer vert with some glades in between, and it's all packed out by 9:30.

All you see is a sea of gray hairs, doing shitty c turns down diamonds going 10mph pushing snow into piles. I hate skiers for this reason, and this is coming from a former skier. I want scream at them GO FASTER, GO HARDER, QUIT killing the POWDER!

Why do they feel the need to ruin it for those of us that would really enjoy a sharp run through powder, to boost their ego to say they ride diamonds? They dont. They ride diamonds like a green.

So frustrating to have to ride near trees and snowmaking equipment to feel the fluff, 30 minutes after opening.

Is this a problem out west where powder is more common, or can you find a fresh line without being bounced around like a porn star by mid day on pow days?
 

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Is this a problem out west where powder is more common, or can you find a fresh line without being bounced around like a porn star by mid day on pow days?
Yes. Low hanging fruit gets picked the soonest. Just part of the game. I feel your pain but they are just there to have fun same as you.

Typically at brighton you will get one or two, maybe three if your lucky top to bottom powder runs before you start crossing tracks and have to go to your stashes. I typically ride til noon on pow days before even the less traveled areas are tracked out.

Whats even more frustrating are the folks who are ignorant to the high avy dangers and track out the easy side country stuff while you miss out becasue you are playing it safe.

Just another reason Im leaning towards abandoning ski resorts all together next season....
 

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Is this a problem out west where powder is more common, or can you find a fresh line without being bounced around like a porn star by mid day on pow days?
if we get a good storm i expect 2-3 days of untracked, if it happens to be a monday? 5....then the powderhounding begins, ive got my stash spots and i know others do too, as it winds down i'll gladly traverse a 1/2 mile to get 3 fresh turns, or whatever it takes, crazy-tight trees and chutes, whatever
 

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Please... my local hills have 300 vert. I make a 4 hour trip up north for maybe 800 vert. To top it all off, they groom any powder we get. At least the hills up north leave some of sections ungroomed, but even they groom the majority of the trails.

I even asked them why they do that. Their excuse? "If we left that stuff ungroomed, it would get so tracked causing the terrain to to be very bumpy."

I have my spots up north and it's in the trees.
 

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ehh quit yer bitchin....we get the pow and no matter how deep...2-3 runs at the very most and it gets tracked...10 o'clock
I'm assuming you ride BAKER ? with B-Ham as your location. I haven't ridden BAKER for approx 8 years and it really pisses me off that I haven't ridden there in so long. Me and 4-5 of my riding buddies started at BAKER 27 years ago and have a deep connection with that Mtn and the Howatt's. In the beginning Duncan (BAKER mngr) never had problems letting us ride his mtn, mostly due to his daughter and several patrollers riding boards, then snowboarding started leaning towards the seek and destroy, skate attitude leaving Duncan no option but to threaten all of the boarders with close the hill to us (could you imagine). We stopped riding BAKER for that exact reason you mentioned, thats to long of a drive from Lake Stevens to BAKER for 3 runs of fresh, that includes during the week. I've had a midweek seasons pass at Stevens for the last 15+ years and can honestly say that I find untouched, even on my last run back to the car. Even though I can't stand the management at Stevens, it is closer and the pow lasts longer
 

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if we get a good storm i expect 2-3 days of untracked, if it happens to be a monday? 5....then the powderhounding begins, ive got my stash spots and i know others do too, as it winds down i'll gladly traverse a 1/2 mile to get 3 fresh turns, or whatever it takes, crazy-tight trees and chutes, whatever

Same here. That's why I wake up at 4:20 and drive up like a maniac. The first run is the best. Goesd downhill from there. 2 years ago I was laid off and got 40 days in Kirkwood. All pow days. One of them I rode the main lift (6) about 5 times alone. It was a wednesday. Literally 15 people out there. You had to look for someone if you wanted to.
 

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we had this storm last week, then a crazy cold snap, highs of 10 drgrees on top, colder than it was in Jan, so i'm still finding crispy pow hits all over the place

Baker: i came over for the banked slalom in Feb, 2 days after a (i think it was) 24" dump, the place was fukkn hammered...not only that, but in a way ive never seen, the place was traversed to shit, everywhere! if you went fall-line you were going against all the skier traverses, wtf!...thankfully i found the Hemispheres and all was well, truly epic in fact
 

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One day I called in sick in January to ride a 20cm day of fresh at Revy only to get stuck 10 minutes into a 2 hour road closure for avy control. All I could do was smoke a j and think of my lines being ridden away.

But I know some spots at Big White where I can find pow like a week after a dump. Wish I knew Revy that well.

But yeah this winter was bunk.
 

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One day I called in sick in January to ride a 20cm day of fresh at Revy only to get stuck 10 minutes into a 2 hour road closure for avy control. All I could do was smoke a j and think of my lines being ridden away.


I've never been stuck behind a avy road closure and I'm that guy that is making those empty powder turns, my secret is get up to the mtn early, the cops are having breakfast, no traffic or accidents to deal with, nice mellow drive, stretch and eat breakfast, been doing that same routine for over 15+ years
 

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we had this storm last week, then a crazy cold snap, highs of 10 drgrees on top, colder than it was in Jan, so i'm still finding crispy pow hits all over the place

Baker: i came over for the banked slalom in Feb, 2 days after a (i think it was) 24" dump, the place was fukkn hammered...not only that, but in a way ive never seen, the place was traversed to shit, everywhere! if you went fall-line you were going against all the skier traverses, wtf!...thankfully i found the Hemispheres and all was well, truly epic in fact
Its too bad that skiers discovered fatty twins....back when the sticks were skinny...they kept to the grommers. My daughter's fattaes are 124 (x2) under foot...that's a hair less than my board's waist.
 

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Typically at brighton you will get one or two, maybe three if your lucky top to bottom powder runs before you start crossing tracks and have to go to your stashes. I typically ride til noon on pow days before even the less traveled areas are tracked out.

Whats even more frustrating are the folks who are ignorant to the high avy dangers and track out the easy side country stuff while you miss out becasue you are playing it safe.
The Utah problem was the lack of snow. Nobody is going to hit the average unless April guess off. Brighton also seems to get trashed anytime LCC is closed for a bit. Alta skiers that get impatient and come poach us can all die.
 

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Its too bad that skiers discovered fatty twins....back when the sticks were skinny...they kept to the grommers. My daughter's fattaes are 124 (x2) under foot...that's a hair less than my board's waist.
Soooo true, when me a my buddies started at BAKER 27 years ago, we didnt have steel edges, so we rode the untouched powder all day, then skiers started seeing how much fun we had and slowly but surely joined in on the fun.

P.S. they're not Fat ski's, they're NAS; narrow ass snowboards (thanks LIB)
 

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I found plenty of fresh lines in the trees at Brighton when I was there, fun resort you guys have! I like the terrain there, lots of fun cliffs there. Snowbird would be awesome too, but they didn't have snow when we went, didn't like the vibe there either.

If I can find nice snow at Vail, Breck and Key I'm sure you guys can, just look for it!
 

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Soooo true, when me a my buddies started at BAKER 27 years ago, we didnt have steel edges, so we rode the untouched powder all day, then skiers started seeing how much fun we had and slowly but surely joined in on the fun.

P.S. they're not Fat ski's, they're NAS; narrow ass snowboards (thanks LIB)
Clayton, question about confirming a rumor of yor...

years ago from a native baker skier to rider bud said that a couple of local county boys were riding plywood boards with wax dripped on, but that the edges rounded down fast. So these guys and their dad got the idea to remove metal edges from some old skis, routered a lip and screwed in the edges on their plywood decks. Apparently it worked well and Jake Burton ran into them on the hill, paid them for their idea....

Thus any truth?
 
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