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Who is getting your vote in the United States presidential election?

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 16 29.6%
  • Gary Johnson

    Votes: 7 13.0%
  • Jill Stein

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 16 29.6%
  • Write-in Candidate

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • No vote

    Votes: 9 16.7%

  • Total voters
    54
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We're less than a week out from decision day. What are you going to do behind the curtain?
Bending over,... Gritting my teeth, and spreading my ass cheeks! :blink:
Any way this election goes....? We're ALL gonna get Fucked!
 

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I already cast my ballot. I try to stay off the networks to avoid too much of the BS. Thank goodness for ad free streaming tv....
 

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Hillary is obviously going to win because Trump is an insane bigot and racist. He won't help the economy unless you are the wealthy elite who don't need the tax breaks he will provide. That being said, Hillary won't win by much and she's only the lesser of two evils by a small amount. She is clearly not trustworthy by any stretch. This election is an absolute joke, from the candidates themselves to how the campaigns have been run. We should all be deciding between Trump and Sanders anyways. Sanders would win and people might actually feel OK about our next president.

Normally, the United States sees politics of other countries and laughs due to how ridiculous things are. This time, they're laughing at us instead.
 

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Hillary is obviously going to win because Trump is an insane bigot and racist. He won't help the economy unless you are the wealthy elite who don't need the tax breaks he will provide. That being said, Hillary won't win by much and she's only the lesser of two evils by a small amount. She is clearly not trustworthy by any stretch. This election is an absolute joke, from the candidates themselves to how the campaigns have been run. We should all be deciding between Trump and Sanders anyways. Sanders would win and people might actually feel OK about our next president.

Normally, the United States sees politics of other countries and laughs due to how ridiculous things are. This time, they're laughing at us instead.
To be fair, Trump is right about NAFTA and how we've accepted horrible trade deals that directly hurt labor, at least in my opinion.
 

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Clinton and her campaign are a bunch of criminals. Bernie should definitely be the candidate and clinton should be in a holding cell and on trial. With Bernie I would have at least considered voting socialist/democratic party....

I have been doing alot of traveling in the past month or two and its shocking how much of the country is pro trump. This isnt just in strong Republican areas, this is in New York, DC, San Francisco, Oregon...

I'm not a vocal supporter of a party or wanting to debate anyone on politics in my daily life. I can however see the downfall of following the countries current path and the benefits of having someone stir the status quo of politics and lobbying in DC.

Hillary is obviously going to win because Trump is an insane bigot and racist. He won't help the economy unless you are the wealthy elite who don't need the tax breaks he will provide. That being said, Hillary won't win by much and she's only the lesser of two evils by a small amount. She is clearly not trustworthy by any stretch. This election is an absolute joke, from the candidates themselves to how the campaigns have been run. We should all be deciding between Trump and Sanders anyways. Sanders would win and people might actually feel OK about our next president.

Normally, the United States sees politics of other countries and laughs due to how ridiculous things are. This time, they're laughing at us instead.
 

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I have been doing alot of traveling in the past month or two and its shocking how much of the country is pro trump. This isnt just in strong Republican areas, this is in New York, DC, San Francisco, Oregon...
I think a lot of people are going to be very surprised at the results. Like you I would have strongly considered Sanders, but there's no way I'm voting for four years of investigations and scandals, with a probable impeachment.
 

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To be fair, Trump is right about NAFTA and how we've accepted horrible trade deals that directly hurt labor, at least in my opinion.
That's one of the things I have agreed with Trump on. We haven't done a great job in our trade agreements and always seem to be bending over for everyone else.

That's about all I'm on board with though. The dude is like teflon, nothing he does seems to stick to him and bring negatives to him. I don't get it.

Mexico isn't paying for and building a wall to keep Mexicans out. That's delusional thinking.
He's going to repeal Roe v. Wade and put it up to the states... this is insane and I'm shocked women aren't making this a bigger deal.
He's going to cut taxes further on the wealthy. We have seen this does not work. The rich get richer and the economy is not helped.

The one thing I have agreed with Hillary on is that her economic plan would not increase taxes for any household making under $250,000. Also, her plan is at least somewhat viable. Trump's on the other hand, is not viable.
 

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Clinton and her campaign are a bunch of criminals. Bernie should definitely be the candidate and clinton should be in a holding cell and on trial. With Bernie I would have at least considered voting socialist/democratic party....

I have been doing alot of traveling in the past month or two and its shocking how much of the country is pro trump. This isnt just in strong Republican areas, this is in New York, DC, San Francisco, Oregon...

I'm not a vocal supporter of a party or wanting to debate anyone on politics in my daily life. I can however see the downfall of following the countries current path and the benefits of having someone stir the status quo of politics and lobbying in DC.
I agree, especially the parts in bold.

Also, while I do agree that our government could use some shaking up, Donald Trump isn't the right guy to do it. The government may need the kind of shakeup Trump would bring, but I do not believe the country would be better off. The guy is an absolute headcase and narcissist.
 

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Politics aside my biggest fear is that electing Trump promotes bad behavior to other people in daily life. I have a real concern that his bigotry and lack of respect for women will embolden other people who have these same traits and who voted for him (of which there are millions chomping at the fucking bit). A loss of basic human rights for gays, for women, for immigrants.....some of the people who are voting for this man, cannot wait to act out like he does. I'd love to think these fears are misplaced. Assure me.
 

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Politics aside my biggest fear is that electing Trump promotes bad behavior to other people in daily life. I have a real concern that his bigotry and lack of respect for women will embolden other people who have these same traits and who voted for him (of which there are millions chomping at the fucking bit). A loss of basic human rights for gays, for women, for immigrants.....some of the people who are voting for this man, cannot wait to act out like he does. I'd love to think these fears are misplaced. Assure me.
They are not misplaced. Some will vote for him for what are perceived as the "right" reasons. Many will vote due to your fears.

Honestly, I can't believe there isn't more uproar, especially from women, after the last debate. He actually said on live TV he would get rid of Roe v. Wade and put it up to the state's decision because he is Pro Life, not Pro Choice.
 

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It unfortnate that most dont understand the paying for the wall bit. Of he cuts the billions in aide that the US sends to mexico to bolster their economy, it pays for it. If they continue the aide in exchange for the build, it pays for it....

Also unfortnate that people dont see the downfall of ACA. Sure there are a couple of good things within it but overall it is killing what healthcare system we have. If you think socialized healthcare is great, go to the VA and ask them how long it takes to get a visit or a proceedure done. I can walk into an endoscopy office and have a colonoscopy done today with a ppo or cash pay.... no way that happens in socialized medicine, which is the direction dems want. The only way something like aca happened is through heavy lobbying by insurance companies. How else would government requirements for private sector policy come to fruition.... pharmaceuticals is another one, lobbyists pay to keep legislation active to make it extremely difficult for other companies to bring the same products to the US market and drastically reduce the costs of prescription drugs.

Tax code? Its a joke. Why are we giving thousands of dollars back to the lowest of income families that, why are there massive loop holes for corporate or higher income families? Middle american avg income families pay for it. Did his companies take advantage of tax law? Sure. Do the clintons? You better believe it. Do they do their own taxes? Hell no, they have teams of accountants. His tax plan is quite simplistic in comparison to anything we have seen. Democrats are selling the same shit they have been for years, talking about taxing the rich and saving the rest, its bullshit just like it was 4, 8, 16 years ago....

Social programs, joke.... unemployment? Its not as low as people would lead you to believe. After 2 years they are not considered active job seekers and they fall off the stats. They still recieve the benefits of welfare programs though. Thats bullshit, cut that shit off. More than half of able bodied working aged citizens take in welfare services, that doesn't include ss or medicare.

Anyone that lives in big cities have to notice the massive increase in homeless people that love on their streets. If you live in big cities and cant see the increases in the past 5ish years your blind. Working people cant afford the false economic inflation and welfare people have lost the drive to get a job.

Of course these are all things that all political parties blow smoke about, this dude is not about politics though. The fact that most politicians are scared of him? Amazing. The fact that the media is against him? Awesome. As for the fact that nothing sticks? Probably because they are unsubstantiated accusations. Why does the shit stick to Hillary and Bill? They have actual evidence of the actions that they have taken that are suspicious or illegal.
 

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Everyone who thinks that Trump is right on NAFTA/trade policies/jobs going to Gina should subscribe to Financial Times right now. In fact, you should have done it years ago. Maybe then the idiotic propagandist bullshit his campaign is spewing wouldn't have taken hold to the point it had among general population.

As someone who at one point had business dealings with Trump (and I'm not name dropping by the way, nothing to be proud about there). That man is supremely lucky he was born in the rich, connected family. He'd be a white trash trailer salesman scammer right now if not for his daddy's dough.

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This is the first presidential election to which I felt compelled to contribute significantly and I'm angered beyond belief by it. Mostly because I choose to focus my charitable donations on animal rescues where I feel my money can make real, immediate difference and shifting my limited funds to political campaigns like that is almost unconscionable to me. But I feel there's way too much at stake right now.

Oh yeah, and I heard a guy in the Starbucks cashier line in Teaneck this morning bleating something incoherent about rigged elections, global financial elites, and how white people like him just can't get a break. Yeah. In Starbucks. In Teaneck, NJ. You can't come up with shit like this if you tried.
 
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