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I've been snowboarding for about 4 years now, but it wasn't until this past winter I got to ride for more than 8 hours at a big resort. Going from Chicago area little hills to Whistler Blackcomb was the most awesome experience!

I normally board with snowboarders but while I was in Whistler I realized my whole family was waiting for me to buckle in before heading down the slopes (all skiers). Finding a good spot to buckle yourself in with the crowd was also very hard. I know if you're good you'll be able to strap yourself in within seconds. I don't think I will be there for at least a couple of years... I thought maybe the rear entry binding could help! I'd call myself an Advanced beginner? I don't do anything crazy, the only thing I would do outside carving is small jumps.

So I found some good prices on Flow rear entry bindings and wanted to know if you have any suggestions...

Some of my friends think that rear entry bindings don't give you the same control as standard bindings. And I've read some people complaining about it being loose from time to time. Would you recommend getting a rear entry bindings?

These are the ones I'm thinking...
Flow Muse Snowboard Bindings - Women's 2012
Flow Flite 2W Snowboard Bindings - Women's 2012
Flow Essence Snowboard Bindings - Women's 2011

also just found this one below
Roxy ROCK-it DASH Snowboard Bindings - Women's 2012

Thank you! I can't wait for the season to start and hopefully go back to Whistler again.
 

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My first time at Whistler, the biggest problem I had was handling runs that take 25+ minutes to get down instead of 4-5. Thighs were killing me! :)

I've had Flows for a couple of years. I also have 390's on my other board. Hopefully what I'm going to say is equally applicable for women's bindings. You'll have to decide that.

Flow's are a lot more trouble to initially set up, because you have to get the proper level of tension in the 'I' strap. Once you have it dialled though, it probably only needs a small adjustment every couple of days. The amount of time that takes though is way more than made up for by the time you save at the top of the run. I personally can kick my back foot in, reach down, and snap the binding shut without ever coming to a stop. But even if you do stop, you don't have to sit and it takes maybe 3 seconds. Skiers spend more time transferring their poles to the proper hands and putting the wrist straps on.

As far as "less control", opinions are divided. Which should tell you that the difference (if any) is subtle. If you compete professionally or semi-pro, I suppose it might make a difference. The big difference though is that at the end of the day your feet aren't aching, because the bindings don't have to be as tight (because of the large contact surface).

One place though where Flows really are a PITA is strapping in on a significant slope. You can't sit down and strap in, you have to turn to face uphill and kick in in an awkward semi-crouch. That's why I have the 390s on the other board -- for park.

OTOH the new NX2s probably take care of this problem because you can strap in the traditional way if you want. Haven't seen them personally yet.


Good luck!
 

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I don't know about those bindings but I know my wife wants to get the 2012 K2 Tryst soon.

They're rear entry, harshmellow for comfort and canted footbeds.

Thanks... yea I was looking at some of the K2 ones too... but i've heard that flow has been doing it for so long they're a little bit more advanced on it.
:) After your wife rides w/ her new K2 please have her share her thoughts :laugh:
 

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My first time at Whistler, the biggest problem I had was handling runs that take 25+ minutes to get down instead of 4-5. Thighs were killing me! :)

I've had Flows for a couple of years. I also have 390's on my other board. Hopefully what I'm going to say is equally applicable for women's bindings. You'll have to decide that.

Flow's are a lot more trouble to initially set up, because you have to get the proper level of tension in the 'I' strap. Once you have it dialled though, it probably only needs a small adjustment every couple of days. The amount of time that takes though is way more than made up for by the time you save at the top of the run. I personally can kick my back foot in, reach down, and snap the binding shut without ever coming to a stop. But even if you do stop, you don't have to sit and it takes maybe 3 seconds. Skiers spend more time transferring their poles to the proper hands and putting the wrist straps on.

As far as "less control", opinions are divided. Which should tell you that the difference (if any) is subtle. If you compete professionally or semi-pro, I suppose it might make a difference. The big difference though is that at the end of the day your feet aren't aching, because the bindings don't have to be as tight (because of the large contact surface).

One place though where Flows really are a PITA is strapping in on a significant slope. You can't sit down and strap in, you have to turn to face uphill and kick in in an awkward semi-crouch. That's why I have the 390s on the other board -- for park.

OTOH the new NX2s probably take care of this problem because you can strap in the traditional way if you want. Haven't seen them personally yet.


Good luck!
Lol the first 2-3 25min runs aren't bad at all it's those ones AFTER lunch time killed me! I was told by my boarding instructor that I was the strongest to start the day but by the end of the day I couldn't even catch up with the rest of my class. I felt ashamed, def was not in shape! Had a cool Norwegian guy as my instructor.

I have heard about the initial set up being a long process... but it's all worth it once you got it to the sweet spot right?

So with the rear entry binding your feet wont hurt like normal ones do? that's awesome! Yea i don't plan on doing anything crazy and i'm def not a pro or semi-pro so that shouldn't be a huge issue. and as far as for significant slopes, not likely to run into those since I can only do blue ones at Whistler (however, my cousins accidentally led me to a double black diamond, we FOLLOWED the snow instead of the crowd).

Thank you for your tips!

I'm thinking to get last year's model since they're cheaper.
 

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Love my K2 cinch CTX...after 2 seasons in them, not a problem, beside re-tightening the screws every 3-4 riding days. I never tried FLOW's but got an awesome deal on the K2's


Thanks... yea I was looking at some of the K2 ones too... but i've heard that flow has been doing it for so long they're a little bit more advanced on it.
:) After your wife rides w/ her new K2 please have her share her thoughts :laugh:
 

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Love my K2 cinch CTX...after 2 seasons in them, not a problem, beside re-tightening the screws every 3-4 riding days. I never tried FLOW's but got an awesome deal on the K2's
Yep mine have been great and their a couple years old now and I really like the way they make me feel "locked in". I still like conventional bindings for out west since you only have to strap in every 20 minutes or so instead of every 5 like in the midwest.
 

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I have ridden flows and my wife still rides them. They are super comfortable and i will probably pick up another pair in the future. The only thing i would say is the new hing system looks really good and would solve any response issues, assuminig there are response issues. This will allow easy entry while letting the binding get a bit tighter.
 

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I have ridden flow for 6 years and have had no issues. I strap in while still moving and unstrapped while still moving. I am going to upgrade to nx2 this year though. In deep powder it can be a bitch with the older ones.....

The new ones have better ratchets than last year..... Last years had better ratchets that other years before that. The nx2 are awesome this year though..... I'm pretty sure they are also canted bindings.....
 

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Yep mine have been great and their a couple years old now and I really like the way they make me feel "locked in". I still like conventional bindings for out west since you only have to strap in every 20 minutes or so instead of every 5 like in the midwest.

Same here...get off chair, slide, point one hand on the steep slope near the lift..lock...go. I'm usually alone and on powder days those few seconds saved mean you're ahead of the pack....at every chair. Damn I can't wait.
 

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My biggest problem with Cinch is that toe strap is typically fixed. Great for getting in cause it doesn't migrate. But even maxed out in the adjustment you do not get enought toe overhang on the binding to properly leverage your edges. This is not a problem with any flow.

I'd get last years Essence if you really wanna save money. However the upgrades for this year are phenomenal. Those real ratchets are great. You can still get out and back in like a regular binding with last years using the mini ratchtes, but he full ratchets on this years are just that much better.
 

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My biggest problem with Cinch is that toe strap is typically fixed. Great for getting in cause it doesn't migrate. But even maxed out in the adjustment you do not get enought toe overhang on the binding to properly leverage your edges. This is not a problem with any flow.

I have the 09/10 K2s (I think) and the toe strap is adjustable. Both in length, and in position (toe or top) did they change that?
 

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Same here...get off chair, slide, point one hand on the steep slope near the lift..lock...go. I'm usually alone and on powder days those few seconds saved mean you're ahead of the pack....at every chair. Damn I can't wait.
Lol no friends on powder days huh? :)
 

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Lol no friends on powder days huh? :)

My brother is coming this December...I will have to make an exception...but no...no friends on pow day....I mean...no waiting for friends on a pow day...
I just can't...

Those are the days when you never stop...you piss in the woods if you have to because stopping at the restroom is out of the question...and skip a good run to get first in line for the next chair to open....


OOOOOoooooo are we there yet?
 

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My brother is coming this December...I will have to make an exception...but no...no friends on pow day....I mean...no waiting for friends on a pow day...
I just can't...

Those are the days when you never stop...you piss in the woods if you have to because stopping at the restroom is out of the question...and skip a good run to get first in line for the next chair to open....


OOOOOoooooo are we there yet?
Yea I tend to share about 1\2 my powder days with the girlfriend and it turns me into an instant A-Hole. I get frustrated by her doing simple shit like taking off her glove off at the top to adjust her bindings and I'm like "WTF are you DOING?!?!?!?" then I choose take her into terrain that's slightly above her head(how else is she gonna learn) and then I get frustrated again waiting for her at the bottom of a gnarly\deep section!
 

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Yea I tend to share about 1\2 my powder days with the girlfriend and it turns me into an instant A-Hole. I get frustrated by her doing simple shit like taking off her glove off at the top to adjust her bindings and I'm like "WTF are you DOING?!?!?!?" then I choose take her into terrain that's slightly above her head(how else is she gonna learn) and then I get frustrated again waiting for her at the bottom of a gnarly\deep section!
I'm opening a pow day thread so we stop hijacking this one ;)
 

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I have the 09/10 K2s (I think) and the toe strap is adjustable. Both in length, and in position (toe or top) did they change that?
Yeah you essentially want your toe ramp to sit just about where your toes sprout from the ball of your foot for proper leverage. I've never worked with a Cinch that could accommodate that.
 

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you want the end of the toe ramp to be just past the ball of your foot? where do you want the end of the heal ramp to be then?
 

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Yeah you essentially want your toe ramp to sit just about where your toes sprout from the ball of your foot for proper leverage. I've never worked with a Cinch that could accommodate that.
not sure I got this...you can slide the toe ramp (or base) forward. by ramp I mean where (end part of) the boot is sitting. I thought you were talking about toe straps before?
 
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