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has anyone here ever done this? i know there are a few pros that do it, mainly for riding rails, and it seems to be gaining some popularity. i skate a LOT and i'm curious about trying it out this weekend. just looking for feedback, whether its positive or negative, and what your experience was if youve ridden without em
 

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What is this '95? If you like getting no response on your healside edge then yeah, its a great idea. Midas well run a baseless binding too while your at it.
 

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Yea on the first rental board I ever rode 16yrs ago with those ridiculous clip in bindings. I don't see any point or benefit in riding without your highbacks.
 

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I guess boots nowadays are stiff enough you can ride without highback.
I know my F3.0 is plenty stiff.
 

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My Ride Rodeo bindings' highback is so soft it's almost like it's not there. I wouldn't recommend it for all mountain riding but I can see its purpose for park and street riding.
 

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To my eyes and taste those bindings look like complete garbage. As long as you're stoked. To each his own.
 

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A buddy of mine had some Now bindings with a highback similar to that mid size one. You could almost twist the back completely around. They worked well for the way he likes to ride. They are entirely too soft for my style of riding. I'm not saying they are literally garbage, just far from ideal for my particular taste.
 

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Yeah but you can't judge bindings that way anymore. I have the Burton Genesis and you can do the same thing to the highback but they are responsive. Same with the ridiculously flexy Flux RL. Some of these new composites are really responsive when free riding and seem flimsy like you say in person.
 

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Hey OP I just started riding with no highbacks this year (about 20 days so far) on my burton missions. I agree that it works great for park and groomers, I guess the only drawback is losing a small amount of heel power when riding steeps. I did notice that on cat tracks I don't experience as much calf pain when I'm riding on my heel edge. It hasn't hindered my progression at all this year, realistically the only way to be a better snowboarder is to be on the hill more. Try it out and let us know how you felt about it.
 

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im gonna try it out tomorrow and see how it goes. the mountain i ride is basically 100% park so im not worried about not having the heel response on steeps. ill report back late tomorrow and let you guys know how it feels
 

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It seems to be more of a pow thing. Things I will be trying this season:

- No boarding (no bindings)
- No highbacks
- Snowskate

Just picked up one of these to mess around with: Let's Play - Snowskate Video | Ambition Snowskates

Love it so far.

I get that a lot of people here are hardcore 'response', 'stiffness' ... blah blah .. I just like having fun and trying sh!t
 

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tried it out, it was fun for ~5 runs or so but after a gnarly edge catch at high speed and having little to no load up for front side spins i decided to go back to highbacks haha
 

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Yes - I ride all the time with no high backs. I've snowboarded for over 20 years and a qualified instructor. Basically if you are snowboarding properly you should be stacked using your core to drive your edges the full length of your board. All learners start by trying to turn with upper body, the better you get the turn initiation gets closer to the edges of your board. Pretty much all intermediate snowboarders counter rotate in their turns - if you want progress then this needs to be corrected. The high back means you're relying on your lower calves to initiate the turn and hold the edge. Once you have really good edge control using your toes and heals to initiate the turn and hold the edge you don't need them any more. Turns should be initiated with toes and heals allowing your body to be dynamic over the board to drive the edges using the full length of the board using fore and aft movement. If you're over relying on your high backs to hold your edge then it's because you're in the wrong position. I'll never ride with high backs ever again; I have super responsive control and freedom to move where I need to be over my board. It's very unforgiving however you must be stacked over your edges all throughout your turns absolutely no counter rotating otherwise you'll have much less control. It's also hard work if you're not used to it. If you take them off and find you have less control then you're not ready yet and still trying to turn your board too far away from your edges and it shows that your edge sensitivity can still be improved.
 

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I have the low back pieces for my NOW drives and love them in powder. Once you get onto groomed stuff it's not as easy to ride but still not that difficult. Gives me way more front side slash power. No reason to hate when something enhances the sensation of pow surfing.
 

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I have the low back pieces for my NOW drives and love them in powder. Once you get onto groomed stuff it's not as easy to ride but still not that difficult. Gives me way more front side slash power. No reason to hate when something enhances the sensation of pow surfing.
I grabbed some Now Selects from the Next Adventure basement for dirt cheap a few weeks ago, and they only have the low backs. Theu are missing a couple of bushings otherwise I would have mounted them to my Derby Snake. Gonna get some replacements sent my way so I can give that a go.
 

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If you're over relying on your high backs to hold your edge then it's because you're in the wrong position. I'll never ride with high backs ever again; I have super responsive control and freedom to move where I need to be over my board. It's very unforgiving however you must be stacked over your edges all throughout your turns absolutely no counter rotating otherwise you'll have much less control. It's also hard work if you're not used to it. If you take them off and find you have less control then you're not ready yet and still trying to turn your board too far away from your edges and it shows that your edge sensitivity can still be improved.
Interesting read and makes me think that it may be a good way to refine ones technique to take them off for some time. (I'm sure that turn initiation wouldn't be a big difference for me, but I rely a lot on the highback leverage pushing through backside carves, I'm pretty sure I couldn't if you'd take 'em away....)
 
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