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Will throw in the Tur Buteo 157 and Fullbag Supernaut 154 which is one of my farovite boards ever but almost sold it and the Orbit 157 when I rode the Buteo. Similar to the Orbit but not as stiff. Could be a quiver of one for my riding if I wasn't such a gearwhore...
 

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Never heard of these, will check them.

Have tou ridden both the TF and Orbit? If yes how do you compare their ride and stiffness?

Will throw in the Tur Buteo 157 and Fullbag Supernaut 154 which is one of my farovite boards ever but almost sold it and the Orbit 157 when I rode the Buteo. Similar to the Orbit but not as stiff. Could be a quiver of one for my riding if I wasn't such a gearwhore...
 

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Hi all,

My measurements are 180 lbs / 80 kg, 5'6 / 170 cm, size 8,5 foot. Stance angles 18 / -6.

I have been riding for more that 10 years and dislocated my shoulder like 8 years ago. I just started riding last year back again and now focusing mostly on all-mountain, freeriding and trying to chase powder as much as I can. No park, doing small jumps on side hits, almost eurocarving and ollie 180s.

Last year I bought a Jones Frontier 159 with 25,4 waist width as an all mountain deck and I have been very happy with it this year on groomers and in powder.

Now I am really looking for a mid-wide / wide volume shifted resort ripper on the shorter end with good powder riding capability.

So far my shortlist in order of inclination as below, also based on the discounts I could find in Europe after the end of season. Prices are between 350 to 450 EUR.

  • Jones Hovercraft 156 with 26 WW => not much shorter and not too wide compared to the Frontier, still very directional, a great carver and very good in powder
  • Korua Stealth 156 with 26,9 WW => maybe too wide for my smaller feet but love the shape, only hearing great things about Korua shapes. A bit curious about long term usage of Korua boards.
  • United Shapes Orbit 154 with 26,1 WW => good size for me, read and watched great reviews, maybe too stiff, curious about the brand and the long term reliability similar to Korua.
  • Korua Dart 156 with 26,9 WW => same comments as Stealth + is it too directional?
  • Rome Stalefish 153 with 26,5 WW => shorter and wider compared to other boards on this list, I guess also softer.
  • GNU Gremlin 155 with 26,4 WW => a bit on the longer and wider side, but still looks like a great board. A bit curious about full magne-traction and not complete metal edge?
  • Yes the Y 153 with 26,2 WW => I lean a bit more to above boards as I am curious about newer shapes with a directional tail, also read some worse reviews.
  • Yes hybrid 154 with 26 WW => Same as above + it is softer than the Y. But have been reading better reviews on this board.
  • Nitro Slash 156 with 26,5 WW => on the longer and wider side for my feet maybe.

I do not really have a chance to demo any of these boards, therefore looking to hear your comments and experiences on these boards for my 2nd weapon of quiver purchase.

thanks.
After reading all this there's one board that jumps out as being by far the best snowboard for your requirements. It's also the most fun snowboard I've ever ridden and may well be the best snowboard ever made. I'm going to recommend to you the K2 Simple Pleasures. I bought mine as a quiver board as I wanted to try a shorter fatty. It turned out to be all I ever wanted and all I'll ever need. When I ride it I feel like I'm being pleasured it's simply that good.

I just hope for your sake when for whatever reason you don't gel with the fancy pants new fangled brand you end up with you're able to find yourself a Simple Pleasures.
 

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  • Korua TF 154 or 157 instead of Dart => same mid profile as the Stealth with better switch rideability. Well if I go with 157, 269 WW Tranny, I am not downsizing from my 159 frontier that much and not sure if 154 has too small of a surface area.
I'm personally a fan of the taper and the sidecut on the Korua boards. I've never tried the classic ones but they should turn the same as the plus models. Super nice turn shapes and if you can hold on they can take you for a ride :)

I want to keep the long effective edge and bigger radius for carving. The rest of the initial options have rounder sides.
The sidecut on the Korua makes for very nice turns. They have tighter sidecuts in the front and longer in the back. They go into the turns easily and aggressively while maintaining the large turn shape when you go through the turn.

Will throw in the Tur Buteo 157 and Fullbag Supernaut 154 which is one of my farovite boards ever but almost sold it and the Orbit 157 when I rode the Buteo. Similar to the Orbit but not as stiff. Could be a quiver of one for my riding if I wasn't such a gearwhore...
I'm going to chime in and also point at the Tur Boards. They're a lot of board though. I rode the 162 Buteo for a couple of laps and I experienced it as something like a hybrid between a Pencil, Tracer and Bullet Train. Fast into the turns, screaming fast during the turn then just kicked you out of it. If I was to buy a haul ass free ride board that was awesome at carving, Tur Buteo would be it.
 

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I'm going to chime in and also point at the Tur Boards. They're a lot of board though. I rode the 162 Buteo for a couple of laps and I experienced it as something like a hybrid between a Pencil, Tracer and Bullet Train. Fast into the turns, screaming fast during the turn then just kicked you out of it. If I was to buy a haul ass free ride board that was awesome at carving, Tur Buteo would be it.
Yeah, that board looks rad!
 

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Never heard of these, will check them.

Have tou ridden both the TF and Orbit? If yes how do you compare their ride and stiffness?
I haven't ridden the TF but the Pencil Plus 164(similar board) and comparing it to the Orbit its a bit different ride. They both are carving boards for groomers and pow, but the Pencil+ is like a exotic sports car the Orbit is a build race car. Maybe the regular version of the Pencil or the TF would be more similar to the Orbit the Plus isn't. The Pencil+ has a mid to mid-stiff flex and Orbit has stiff. Orbit is much more demanding to ride especially for the legs, like a full workout. Some use the Orbit to race BX.
Don't get me wrong or be scared, the Orbit is a great board but would choose the Tur 157 for full day every day. Its a gorgeous carver even on hard snow without having your legs killed and should have similar float in pow
 

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Checked the Tur boards, the shape looks goods, measurements are perfect for me but it is beyond my budget. Slightly lower than price level I can buy a Surfari.

Over the weekend checked the TF and Orbit in person. Orbit is too stiff to ride all day IMO, hence eliminated .

I lean towards more to the Stealth and I could find only 1 piece in 156. I was going to pull the trigger but now I wonder if Korua will bring a successor to the Stealth as the more directional TF with a different tail.

Also considering Korua does not have discount on any of their boards, I can buy the TF or the stealth beginning of next season.

Can anybody also comment on the comparison of Hovercraft vs. Korua's?
 

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Then probably will buy that last Stealth. But before I throw the last curveball.

While digging really deep in on the internet found an Amplid Surfari for 500 EUR.

Stealth for 400 EUR or Surfari for 500 EUR?
 

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Then probably will buy that last Stealth. But before I throw the last curveball.

While digging really deep in on the internet found an Amplid Surfari for 500 EUR.

Stealth for 400 EUR or Surfari for 500 EUR?
When the groomers are nice the Koruas have a really unique carving feel but it gets cranky in chunder etc. Surfari like all the centrifugal Amplids just plows no matter the conditions.

Plenty of info on the Surfari there:
 

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When the groomers are nice the Koruas have a really unique carving feel but it gets cranky in chunder etc. Surfari like all the centrifugal Amplids just plows no matter the conditions.

Plenty of info on the Surfari there:
I see Amplid has added a new board to the Centrifugal Collection called the Souly Grail, do you know anything about this board? I asked for specs but only got the 2 length sizes with WW.
 

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I see Amplid has added a new board to the Centrifugal Collection called the Souly Grail, do you know anything about this board? I asked for specs but only got the 2 length sizes with WW.
Only the specs. Looks like a combo between the Surfari and Penta (closer to the Surfari). The Grail is a directional camber (I prefer a full one) and has a tigher sidecut (I prefer bigger ones). Losing the EE, the longer sidecut radius and the full camber there is too much for me. I’m really happy with the Penta as a freeride freecarve board at my size. Personally I’d be happier with another Penta at ~~ 165 size for boilerplate ice (more EE) and open groomers than the Grail if they made it. Since there is only a single size, I’ve just added Endeavor Alpha 160W to my Nitro Pantera 166 for the ice specialist spot.

I don’t have a volume shifted board in a 10 plus quiver anymore (sold my Slush Slasher and Optimistic) so if I added another Amplid it would be most likely the Aloha Vibes. I really dig the specs there.
 

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I pulled the trigger on the Surfari today. I was afraid a bit from 26,9 cm ww on the Tranny finder with 8,5 feet. Also lots of you guys mentioned that it is one of the dampest board out there.

Looking forward to receive the board and mount the Katanas on. Not sure how to wait at least another 8 months until the next season though.

Next board will probably be an actual party board with even shorter and wider size.
 

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I pulled the trigger on the Surfari today. I was afraid a bit from 26,9 cm ww on the Tranny finder with 8,5 feet. Also lots of you guys mentioned that it is one of the dampest board out there.

Looking forward to receive the board and mount the Katanas on. Not sure how to wait at least another 8 months until the next season though.

Next board will probably be an actual party board with even shorter and wider size.
Congrats man - enjoy!
 

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From that list I’ve owned/ridden some Koruas in different sizes (CR, Pencil, Dart, Otto), K2 SP 156, Yes Optimistic 154.

I’m ~~ 85 kg and 10 US nominal size (downsized to 9,5) and since people say NP is softer I’d pick the SP. I wouldn’t like the SP 156 to be any softer for my weight (though NP has sick graphics).

As far as Koruas are concerned, if you gonna ride good snow only, you’ll handle 269 heavily tapered waist but that will be a downside on hard snow (CR 64 is less fun as a daily driver for me than CR 59 was but I intentionally sized it up for a quiver board since I don’t see myself owning less than 6-7 boards any time soon). For an all condition ride the CR 59 was better at my size. K2 SP is an easier ride, not as chargy but it would stll deliver in all the aspects you mentioned very well.

The Y is a downgraded Optimistic and volume shifted tight sidecut boards have a very different feel. As many short carves as possible without charging hard. Like riding a go kart. Not that much directional (still floats great). Easy to ride switch actually.

None of these boards have any reliability/construction issues, don’t worry about that.
May I ask your opinion of the differences between the Pencil and the CR? I'm considering the Pencil 64 or the CR 59 or 64. I'm 80kg, size 45 boot.
 

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May I ask your opinion of the differences between the Pencil and the CR? I'm considering the Pencil 64 or the CR 59 or 64. I'm 80kg, size 45 boot.
Hi, the camber profile is very much the same. Its height is random, I’ve seen Koruas float cambers with a higher bow than their true camber and vice versa. The nose is the same. The difference is the tail - more upkick and volume on the Pencil so I’d say it’s a bit better for jumping and switch (but both are bad at riding switch anyway) while you can push that tail carving on the CR a bit more.
 
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