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Order #2 is in.

Salomon Lo Fi - Great build quality and I really like the traditional lace combo the ankle BOA. The length is good everywhere except around the big toe. I got too much pressure there. Heel hold was decent, but not great. I got a few pressure points around the instep and top of my foot.

Salomon Synapse - Decent build quality, they sort of feel cheap. I don't like the two zone BOA system, too many pressure points around the cables. Same issue with the length and pressure on the big toe as the Lo Fi. Heel hold was decent, but not great.

Ride Fuse - Decent build quality, but they feel cheaper like the Synapse. The traditional lace ankle BOA combo is great. The length feels a little longer than the other 7 or more boots I have tried. I might consider sizing down 1/2 size smaller than my mondo point. The toe box feels wider, which I like. I really like the burrito style liner and this boot is all around super comfortable. No pressure points at all. Solid heel hold, but I would probably add j bars just to get it a little better. The Fuse is currently in the lead.
 

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man im having all the same issues as you, boots ive tried...
Burton almighty - too wide
dc judge - too wide
k2 maysis - felt good but the boot fell apart and the condo crushed my foot a bit too much
salomon synapse - nice and snug but made my foot numb
ride lasso - junk
ride deadbolt - nice burrito linger, still too wide
vans infuse - best fitting most comfortable highest quality boot out of them all, got heel lift tho
vans aura pro- very close second to comfort to the vans infuse, but little to no heel lift on these, if these were stiffer I would just settle on these, but as of now they are in the lead

would like to try the vans implant pro (hearing they may be a notch stiffer than the aura pro) the k2 ender, and the ride fuse. but after trying the deadbolt im not so quick to jump on the fuse as they look very similar minus the laces
 

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The Vans Infuse has a
man im having all the same issues as you, boots ive tried...
Burton almighty - too wide
dc judge - too wide
k2 maysis - felt good but the boot fell apart and the condo crushed my foot a bit too much
salomon synapse - nice and snug but made my foot numb
ride lasso - junk
ride deadbolt - nice burrito linger, still too wide
vans infuse - best fitting most comfortable highest quality boot out of them all, got heel lift tho
vans aura pro- very close second to comfort to the vans infuse, but little to no heel lift on these, if these were stiffer I would just settle on these, but as of now they are in the lead

would like to try the vans implant pro (hearing they may be a notch stiffer than the aura pro) the k2 ender, and the ride fuse. but after trying the deadbolt im not so quick to jump on the fuse as they look very similar minus the laces
I hear ya, man. It’s frustrating. The fuse is pretty solid and I think you should give them a try. I wish the Vans Infuse fit me like the Fuse does, because the Vans are a badass boot (build quality, adjustable stiffness, power strap). Good luck!
 

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Hi.

On the weekend managed to try on Salomon boots -Lanuch lace Boa and Synapse boa size 10.5. As they didn’t have either the 11 or the 10’s in stock. Did measure on the Salomon foot measure and had me as an 11 but the 10.5 felt like once packed out perhaps a better fit. At first my toes were jammed. So much so the guy fitting was like I think your toes and pushing out of the boot! But once I put my custom insoles in. They seemed to feel ok. Eg when bending knees they weren’t touching the end anymore

I have skinny ankles no calf’s and high instep I went to 3 shops and walked out of one when the guy tried to get me to try a wide version of Salomon boots as they were on a discount I mean have you seen my feet! If I could handle a wider boot I would just stick with my SLX

I’m not concerned with the price of the boot $100-200more for boots that I will have for at least 5 years. Assuming I get 20 days on snow a year


My thoughts on the boots

Launch lace. Ok fit esp the heel hold which was great with the Boa. But overall didn’t feel 100%. Perhaps too wide in rest of boot. Not really sure to be honest


Synapse Boa. I haven’t had Boa before. I know heaps of people do but something felt wrong. Heel hold not as good as the Launch as it didn’t have the str8jkt as the Launch Perhaps too stiff a boot for me but not sure as can’t really tell till I ride in it

a few sales went on tonight so just ordered the Lo Fi. Salomon in 10.5. They only had 1 in this size in stock. Hoping it will work. It has the str8jkt which I think is very important for me. Not so sure on the laces as really liked the Speed laces on the Burton SLXs but most importantly is getting a boot that fits correctly. I can’t really wait to I get to Canada as will be riding almost the same day as landing
Will try the lo fi but only will be testing walking around home. Perhaps the hifi may have been an option but wanted the heel hold with the lo fi. Anyone got any thoughts on hifi vrs lofi? Dialogue vrs Synapse?
 

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The Vans Infuse has a

I hear ya, man. It’s frustrating. The fuse is pretty solid and I think you should give them a try. I wish the Vans Infuse fit me like the Fuse does, because the Vans are a badass boot (build quality, adjustable stiffness, power strap). Good luck!
Hi @campbellt3,
Been following this thread to get ideas for my skinny ankles and heels!

Did you end up getting the Ride Fuse? How do they compare to the Vans Infuse? It seems like those were the top 2 choices. Thanks!
 

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Salomon Lo Fi arrived yesterday. Tried them on. Thought heel hold was great with the Boa jacket hold could only get my heel to raise maybe 3/4 cm. May have done it up too tight as did get pressure points on top of foot

Feels like a great boot for me as would hopefully solve the heel hold issue and also seems to tick off other problem areas for me such as boot width. Skinny feet and these seem to wrap around my feet very well

Calf’s can only get a couple of fingers down the back of my liner to calf. Compared to whole hand with Burton SLX

I’ll update once I have a few hours in the boots. As only concern was the top of my feet where the heel hold strap was caused pressure points and very red skin. Again could have done them up too tight

Will wear around house again today.
 

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Great thread. I have struggled to find the right boot for years, and have been riding in some 2010 ish Salomon Malamutes for a very long time, which are now as soft as butter. Apart from using some K2 T1 Boas in 2011 I have always used Salomon boots (Dialogues, F24's and Malamutes) as I was always told that any other brand would be too wide for my feet. Not so it appears! Today I tried on the following:
Salomon Lo Fi (too soft for me)
Burton Ion and Driver X (too big around the ankle/heel lift and a bit cheap looking compared to 32 boots)
Thirty Two TM2, TM2 XLT, TM3 and Mullair.

All of the Thirty Two boots fitted really well. Build quality is as good as I've seen and the liners really pull your heel into the back of the boot. Apart from the TM2's I didn't get any heel lift at all. In the end I bought the TM2 XLT's as the fit was a little better and they were the stiffness I was looking for (not as stiff as Malamutes, I would say an 8-9 out of 10.)

I would have tried Malamutes, but I don't even think anyone is carrying them in the UK this season, which is a sign of the times along with most of the smaller independent shops closing. The shop didn't have the Ride Fuse boots so I can't comment on them.

So if, like me, you have narrow feet and ankles you now have another option apart from Salomons. :)
 

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I have a high instep and skinny ankles. I ended up buying the TM2's with traditional lace. I love the boa system but find that it gives me instep pressure and I can't get it quite right. I tried on a ton of laced, mixed, and boa vans and 32's and settled on the TM2. I do wish that I had the option of trying and getting the XLT version, but I've only been riding for one season so I don't think I'll need the increased stiffness they offer quite yet.

I had the boots heat molded at the shop and I'm stoked to get a ride in this weekend. So much better than my speed lace rulers.
 

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A bit of an update.

Soloman Lo-Fi:

Been wearing around house and also did a "home job" heat mold. Eg: Heated Rice in socks, put socks in boots, let it sit for 10+ mins then removed rice and got feet in boots for 10-15 mins. (All I could do as was at work and don't have a microwave at home).

Boots in length seem good. Couldn't go any shorter at all. I am right on the edge of needing the 11 but the 10.5 now should be sweet for riding once the boots pack out a little more.

Heel hold seems good. Although I did decide to add in ankle wrap foam from Tognar and well as a heel lift just to help a little bit. So don't need to crank the boots as much. The heel lift I am not 100% on but thinking it would be good to help me get more forward in the boots and lift the ankle a bit, I made my own ones using some foam I had at work as the ones from Tognar seemed a bit too high but again If I had a good boot fitter here I would just go see them!

I see the comment saying that the Lo-Fi are too soft. This maybe the case but can't really comment until I ride in them as the last 2 boots I had (Burton SLX and Burton Imperial were the incorrect size and boot for me) so I am just comparing the feel of the Lo-Fi to them, the Burtons felt very loose. The Lo-Fi hug upwards from my ankle very well and I have got used to the lacing system. A couple of times the BOA heel hold strap had made it's way from the ankle area to the mid of my foot. So a good thing to check when you put the boot on is to just position the strap in the correct area.

I'm going to have to use these boots for 2 weeks riding and then when I get to Whistler if I aren't happy or even if I am happy still will try and find the best boot fitter and store and see what they recommend. As perhaps I may want a stiffer boot but I won't know until I get some days on the snow. So I'll still be following this Thread for advice.

On that anyone recommend the most professional outfit in Whistler for Snowboard Boots and Fitting?

Cheers! Let it snow.
 

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I have the same issue. My solution was literally the Solution. Just buy a boot with a removable liner and insert these. Do note that they will make any boot considerably stiffer, so boot shop accordingly.

These sound like a good idea. My front boot is fine, but rear boots spine is now markedly softer so will need to get a new pair after this coming season or I would get the solution liner. When boots start packing out you tend to either add stuff everywhere, get some Strapins to secure it to your foot more or just get new boots when the outside of the boot is generally fine. Major brands must hate the idea!. I might get the footbed though, lots of professionals are a fan and it can come with me next year.
 

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All of the Thirty Two boots fitted really well. Build quality is as good as I've seen and the liners really pull your heel into the back of the boot. Apart from the TM2's I didn't get any heel lift at all. In the end I bought the TM2 XLT's as the fit was a little better and they were the stiffness I was looking for (not as stiff as Malamutes, I would say an 8-9 out of 10.)
Did you try the donut inserts on the TM2's? They have 2 different thicknesses to adjust heel hold. That may have fixed your issue with those. I understand you went up a model which is awesome, but just for anyone else looking in the future!
 

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Did you try the donut inserts on the TM2's? They have 2 different thicknesses to adjust heel hold. That may have fixed your issue with those. I understand you went up a model which is awesome, but just for anyone else looking in the future!
The only boots I've ever found that fit my feet out of the box are the Salomon F22s but I don't care for them otherwise for two reasons. 1) Speed lacing. I just prefer good old traditional laces. 2) They're a reduced volume boot (which I don't need wearing 10s) and reduced volume generally = less insulation. My feet absolute froze on cold days in those boots.
 

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Did you try the donut inserts on the TM2's? They have 2 different thicknesses to adjust heel hold. That may have fixed your issue with those. I understand you went up a model which is awesome, but just for anyone else looking in the future!
I Didn't try the inserts in the TM2's as it took a few hours for me to try all the boots and get a good feel for them. Also, the XLT's were just a better fit all round for my feet so I didn't go back to the TM2's. The inserts do look like a great idea though. If I start to get any heel lift in the XLT's later on I'll definitely try them out, for sure.
 

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The only boots I've ever found that fit my feet out of the box are the Salomon F22s but I don't care for them otherwise for two reasons. 1) Speed lacing. I just prefer good old traditional laces. 2) They're a reduced volume boot (which I don't need wearing 10s) and reduced volume generally = less insulation. My feet absolute froze on cold days in those boots.
Ha ha. You weren't alone. My feet used to freeze in Salomon F24s. I loved those boots, but they were really hard to dry out as the liners couldn't be removed.
 

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I Didn't try the inserts in the TM2's as it took a few hours for me to try all the boots and get a good feel for them. Also, the XLT's were just a better fit all round for my feet so I didn't go back to the TM2's. The inserts do look like a great idea though. If I start to get any heel lift in the XLT's later on I'll definitely try them out, for sure.
Yeah I feel like the xlts may have been better for me too with the additional ankle strap for heel Lockdown.

Did you feel like the toebox shape was different as well or just things with the heel? I know the liner is the next level up, right?
 

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I Didn't try the inserts in the TM2's as it took a few hours for me to try all the boots and get a good feel for them. Also, the XLT's were just a better fit all round for my feet so I didn't go back to the TM2's. The inserts do look like a great idea though. If I start to get any heel lift in the XLT's later on I'll definitely try them out, for sure.
Yeah I feel like the xlts may have been better for me too with the additional ankle strap for heel Lockdown.

Did you feel like the toebox shape was different as well or just things with the heel? I know the liner is the next level up, right?
 

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Yeah I feel like the xlts may have been better for me too with the additional ankle strap for heel Lockdown.

Did you feel like the toebox shape was different as well or just things with the heel? I know the liner is the next level up, right?
The fit was pretty much identical around the toebox and heel. It was from the ankle up that the XLT's were a better fit for me. I was surprised that I didn't really notice much difference in the stiffness of the two boots, but when flexing forward the XLT felt way more comfortable and fitted to my calf and ankle. I may be wrong but I thought the two boots have the same liner, although the shell construction is definitely different. Also the power strap on the XLT really helped me to keep the boot nicely fitted to my calf.
 

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Yeahhh I wish I'd had a chance to get those instead...

I'm never buying gear before black Friday again lmao.

If I'd waited to get my board, boots, and helmet till now, I would have saved like 300-400 bucks... Atleast it went to a local shop.
 

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Update: After 4 orders, 11 pairs of boots, hours wearing them, and 4 return orders - I finally found one that works for me.

I ended up with the 32 TM-Two XLT.

I ordered them in my mondopoint size like Wired suggested and they were not a good fit to start. Too short with crunched toes. I looked at my current socks (SmartWool) and realized they were pretty thick. I decided to switch things up and went with thin compression-type socks made by Stance (Double Diamond - Mens Ski Ultralight Merino Wool Socks | Stance) and they instantly improved the fit for me. I then added Superfeet "blue" insoles and heel wedges (see Angry's boot fit video) and everything came together. After a proper heat mold today, I am absolutely confident I am properly dialed it.

Make sure you take a hard look at the total package (boot, insole, socks, etc.) before deciding what you go with. It helped me a ton.

Good luck!
 

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Update. Just arrived in Whistler so I’ll have opportunity to try on some other boots Ridden 6 days mostly backcountry pow and 1 day on groomers before arriving at Whistler .

Lo Fi. Seem ok still get boot pain in the top of foot. Can reduce this by not doing the inner up as tight.

The tongue seems to be quite narrow and moves right on my right foot so much so that it’s way on centre. I need to stop once a day and refit my boot. The tongue also is rigid on the edges do that we you use the boa to tighten up it leaves an imprint on my feet

Guess not super happy. But I have solved the heel lift using the BOA heel hold but think there has to be a better solution .


Would I buy these boots again. Nah Nope don’t think so but then again I haven’t tried and ridden in anything else but Burton who boots are the worst for me.
 
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