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Hey all,

I recently bought 686 Smarty pants and while they work great, they are a little baggy for my taste. Not to mention the insulation is 250g then just a shell with it removed.

So I'm looking for a 40-60g insulated pant that has a tailored look.

So far Holden and L1 seem to be solid direction. Holden does say what weight of insulation is in their pants though.
The L1 Skinnys are just shells, but I'm not going for the skinny look, more of a normal sweatpant look.

Thanks Guys!

Chris
 

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Burton AK 3L is a pure shell but they are pretty tailored in their fit. I'd say that from above the knee they have same cut as a pair of jeans, just a bit more room. Unlike other snowboard pants they are cut like pants as opposed to outerwear.
 
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