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Asking again if you've ridden any Ride boots yet. The lasso feel amazing to me and I've gone through a ton of stuff. You might also like the vans verse. They seemed to space for a big instep since the heel hold wasn't great for me and I have a small instep. They were being cleared out by sierra recently.

Worth a shot!
 

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I don't recall the tongue liner being particularly stiff on the TM2's I've owned and I'm on my second pair right now. Are you sure it's not the tongue itself? Can you replicate the issue by tightening just the liner on your foot?
 

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No, I have to order direct from the brand for those and shipping is going to take forever :/ might try now i guess. Missing this whole season and might as well just give up til next year lmao
You said that two weeks ago too!

Honestly, just order a crap ton of boots on a CC and return them within the window. You can also find them on other retailers, no?

If you're looking for the 'perfect' fit, odds are you're not going to be satisfied by something right out of the box. My lassos were fine for day 1 and 2, but I knew I was going to have to add foam and modify the shell/liner to get things to be where I like them. It's kind of like a cat chasing its tail.... You ride them for a few days and then reposition foam etc if you're that finnicky. I'm hoping that the changes I just made tonight will last me the rest of the season for the most part. Then you re-evaluate the next season because your biomechanics and feet change ever so slightly that it might change how things go together.

I feel fortunate that someone here gave me the rec of trying the TM3 shells with TM2 liners. That experiment has also been promising... but like.... I have 3 pairs of boots right now and I'm mixing and matching and adding foam to try to get things how I like them.
 

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Just know that you might have to add foam and modify the boots to get something super dialed in. I've had to do that to every boot I've ever owned. It was annoying till I realized that no manufacturer could do it as well as me unless I got custom boots and liners.

I'm curious what you think about the pros. I might move to the fuse in the future because the lace plus slime tongue combo might be awesome.
 

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Just gonna take a moment to again say I wish the Salomon Lo Fi's didn't have a defect, it's by far my favorite boot I've ever tried on. Don't want to order the same size from Salomon and wait a week again only to find out it's not a one-off issue.
If you like it so much it's probably worth trying again.

I think it's a great combination myself. I'll be ordering another set of Fuse next year.
I have a line on a set for a great price but they're not returnable. I expect them to fit because it's the same liner and last as the lasso but like... I have two sets of shoes right now that kinda work so feels a bit superfluous to add a third... Says the guy with like 6 boards....
 

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Yesterday I got a new set of last year TM3's on sale to ride next season. I measure a 28cm, maybe just a hair over on one foot, so I go with a US 10.

It's difficult to get my feet into the boots. They are SNUG, as in every toe is touching the front without wiggle room. There is no immediate pain, and no numbness when I tighten them up and leave them on for 20 minutes. (This is not true for the TM2 or TM2 XLT, with the XLT's cutting off circulation very quickly. There is no pain and the numbness is fixed with a heat mold.)

My arch in my left foot gets sore after 20 minutes in them and I'm experimenting with different footbeds to fix that. Best so far are the stock insoles with the Large arch supports which were more comfortable than my Remind Cush from my TM2's that work great there. I don't feel the need to immediately replace these, but I might try some Remind Medics I had in another set of boots.

I think I could ride in these boots as-is if I took them off to massage my feet after an hour or so, and I think after 5 days in them they'd be comfortable. Strapping in with them takes the pressure off of my toes enough to where they're still hitting the front but it's not uncomfortable.

So for me, at the upper end of the Mondo size, they are perfectly uncomfortably snug out of the box. I'm pretty sure with a heat mold and 2-3 days of riding they're going to feel like they were made out of liquid poured over my feet that hardened. That's the fit that I go for.

I'd say if you're feeling any pain more dramatic than that, it's probably worth searching for a different boot.
Throw in the liners from your TM2's or XLT's. I really don't like the TM3 liner. The fit is very finnicky for me fwiw.
 

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These are my ride lassos. I wore them unmodified on day one and didn't want to cut my feet off. Given the difficulty I've had finding boots that fit at all and the multiple subungual hematomas I've had, that's a huge fucking win.

I've ridden in them like 5 times now and this is what they look like.







This is what the liners and shell look like now. If you think you're going to get a perfect fit out of the box when you don't have the average foot... Well.... You're going to be returning a lot of boots.
 
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