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I need some help when it comes to buttering and pressing, have been boarding for a couple of years 3 or 4 times a year. Been hitting little kickers and popping little 180° with out to much trouble, but can not butter or press to save my life, even stationary. I am guessing it has something to do with my board, I am riding a Burton process v-rocker 159cm and I weigh 85kg/187pound. I am thinking I need a shorter board and I am looking at a Burton process flying v 155cm due to it being compatible with my bindings and ease to swap boards, or should I go for different make??. if some one could let me know what they think??

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Hi all

I need some help when it comes to buttering and pressing, have been boarding for a couple of years 3 or 4 times a year. Been hitting little kickers and popping little 180° with out to much trouble, but can not butter or press to save my life, even stationary. I am guessing it has something to do with my board, I am riding a Burton process v-rocker 159cm and I weigh 85kg/187pound. I am thinking I need a shorter board and I am looking at a Burton process flying v 155cm due to it being compatible with my bindings and ease to swap boards, or should I go for different make??. if some one could let me know what they think??

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I think you need to practice more/improve your technique. Process V is not a difficult board to press and 159 is not significantly too long for you.
 

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Might I suggest you check out the Snowboardaddiction.com site. They have several very good Buttering Tutorials! They also offer a discount price for SBF members!

If you don't wish to pay for tutorials, do a search on You tube and/or Vimeo. You will find plenty of Buttering vids! Not all are as good or comprehensive as the SA tut's, but they're free so,... :dunno:
 

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You definitely need a new board and bindings. Support your local snowboard shop!

Look for these 3 characteristics:

-elevated contact points (called 3d or diamond tech, etc)

-rocker

-super soft flex

You are now a human spredder.

edit: oh and for your jibby stick I'd suggest something more in the mid 50's, especially if you look at something with blunted tips (you should) then you could get away with as small as 154.
 

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It's a lot more about balance than bending the board though that does help. Wide stance also helps plus it's sexy.
I agree. Finding you're center balance and being confident that the board will hold you and will not break tho its doing some serious flexing. I would start strapped in facing a bed post and flex back getting use the feel. Do it till you are confident and can balance without holding on. Then try it on snow going straight (with the same feel). When starting to rotate remember to keep your downhill edge up just a little bit.

That's what worked for me and my girlfriend.

Oh and I watched a ton of YouTube videos.

Good luck bro. You'll get it if you really want it.
 

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You got quite a few responses about how the board probably isn't your problem!
I would tend to agree! I learned to butter & press on a full camber, Arbor Roundhouse, with a 2 in. set back and stiff as hell tail! Granted, it's easier to press that thing riding switch using the longer, softer flexing nose of the board, but I can press it using either end!

The buttering vids linked in previous posts are more for advanced buttering moves! They start out assuming that you at least have the basics of nose & tail presses down. If you haven't mastered those yet, even while stationary, I don't think they'll be of much help to you at this point!

I really do think you could benefit from the Snowboard Addiction's basic buttering vids. They detail all the basic stance and body mechanics & moves required to get you going and comfortable with pressing your board and then they move onto a few more moderately difficult moves from there!

Barring that, practice at home on the carpet or grass would be your best bet! (...some form of balance training wouldn't hurt your chances either!)

Good luck! :thumbsup:
 

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You got quite a few responses about how the board probably isn't your problem!
I would tend to agree! I learned to butter & press on a full camber, Arbor Roundhouse, with a 2 in. set back and stiff as hell tail! Granted, it's easier to press that thing riding switch using the longer, softer flexing nose of the board, but I can press it using either end!

The buttering vids linked in previous posts are more for advanced buttering moves! They start out assuming that you at least have the basics of nose & tail presses down. If you haven't mastered those yet, even while stationary, I don't think they'll be of much help to you at this point!

I really do think you could benefit from the Snowboard Addiction's basic buttering vids. They detail all the basic stance and body mechanics & moves required to get you going and comfortable with pressing your board and then they move onto a few more moderately difficult moves from there!

Barring that, practice at home on the carpet or grass would be your best bet! (...some form of balance training wouldn't hurt your chances either!)

Good luck! :thumbsup:
I'm curious what you are doing with that thing that you consider buttering :giggle:
 

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I'm curious what you are doing with that thing that you consider buttering :giggle:
OK, Just to be clear! I'm NOT claiming to be some sort of flatland "Master!" It was my understanding that anything, you did on the board while pressing the nose or the tail was considered "Buttering!" I asked around about the different names for various butter moves and was told "basically they're all just called Buttering!" :icon_scratch: :dunno:

It wasn't until I started posting for download the Ryan tut's that I saw any specific name given for any of these tricks!

Having said that,..

I can nose & tail press ALL 3 of my boards (...the Arbor included,) while riding straight, both switch & reg. I can do a tail press turn, and flat spins, front & backside. (or maybe that's reg. & switch? Dunno!) In fact, I catch an edge more often doing that on my NS Proto, than I do with my Arbor! :dunno: Go figure! (I did learn the move on my Arbor first, before I got the Proto, so?)

I was working on Front Side Nose rolls near the end of last season! I am nowhere near as smooth or fast as Ryan, But, I can complete the maneuver, again, both reg. and switch!

This was why I agreed with the other posters that the fault was probably less likely the board, and more likely his execution! Of course, I could be wrong!

In which case, OP,... Never mind me! ;) :laugh:
 

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OK, Just to be clear! I'm NOT claiming to be some sort of flatland "Master!" It was my understanding that anything, you did on the board while pressing the nose or the tail was considered "Buttering!" I asked around about the different names for various butter moves and was told "basically they're all just called Buttering!" :icon_scratch: :dunno:

It wasn't until I started posting for download the Ryan tut's that I saw any specific name given for any of these tricks!

Having said that,..

I can nose & tail press ALL 3 of my boards (...the Arbor included,) while riding straight, both switch & reg. I can do a tail press turn, and flat spins, front & backside. (or maybe that's reg. & switch? Dunno!) In fact, I catch an edge more often doing that on my NS Proto, than I do with my Arbor! :dunno: Go figure! (I did learn the move on my Arbor first, before I got the Proto, so?)

I was working on Front Side Nose rolls near the end of last season! I am nowhere near as smooth or fast as Ryan, But, I can complete the maneuver, again, both reg. and switch!

This was why I agreed with the other posters that the fault was probably less likely the board, and more likely his execution! Of course, I could be wrong!

In which case, OP,... Never mind me! ;) :laugh:
Pretty sure I got you 2x on this one :giggle:
 

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Pretty sure I got you 2x on this one :giggle:
:icon_scratch::icon_scratch::icon_scratch:
....and at this point, I'm pretty sure I'm staring right at it and still missing the Joke! :blink: :laugh:
Ah well, It's early, coffee hasn't kicked in yet and I'm Old & Slow today! :eusa_clap: :giggle:
 

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I agree with everyone else, the board is not your problem. Buttering is more about balance, you should be balancing your weight literally close to the nose or tail of the board for presses, not as much trying to lift one leg and bend the other if you know what i mean.

Ground Tricks from Japan - YouTube

Try to learn all the tricks in this video. A few years ago when I first started boarding, these all seemed difficult and hard. But over time you will end up realizing that these are the most basic tricks in snowboarding. They are also all relevant to buttering in the long run.

Knowing Ollie, Nollie, FS/BS 180, nose rolls, tail slides, tail press, nose press are all crucial to buttering. Once you learn all these you can combo them up any way you want, in any direction you want.

But if you want to just start off and learn the most basic butters, then try the tail press and the nose press first. Try to Ollie into a nose press, or Nollie into a tail press, they will make it a lot easier to hold the presses (check the video above you'll see what I mean)
 

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I agree with everyone else, the board is not your problem. Buttering is more about balance, you should be balancing your weight literally close to the nose or tail of the board for presses, not as much trying to lift one leg and bend the other if you know what i mean.

Ground Tricks from Japan - YouTube

Try to learn all the tricks in this video. A few years ago when I first started boarding, these all seemed difficult and hard. But over time you will end up realizing that these are the most basic tricks in snowboarding. They are also all relevant to buttering in the long run.

Knowing Ollie, Nollie, FS/BS 180, nose rolls, tail slides, tail press, nose press are all crucial to buttering. Once you learn all these you can combo them up any way you want, in any direction you want.

But if you want to just start off and learn the most basic butters, then try the tail press and the nose press first. Try to Ollie into a nose press, or Nollie into a tail press, they will make it a lot easier to hold the presses (check the video above you'll see what I mean)
ollie to nosepress is fucken scary fwiw
 

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ollie to nosepress is fucken scary fwiw
really? haha I always found it easier than normal nose presses. but I only do it on snow so if you are talking about doing this on a rail then I wouldn't know.

I've broken my humerus before on rails and ever since then I have some fear about leaning too forward on down rails :dizzy:
 
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