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So this has probably been done before, i can't be bothered to look too far back, and with new cameras out probably needs to be done again...

So what camera do you use...???

Contour Roam (any)
Contour+ (any)
GoPro Hero 2
GoPro Hero 3 Silver
GoPro Hero3 Black
Drift
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And why do you use it...??? Do you film every run and edit out the crap later and just keep the good runs or just film occassional runs...???

I am curious as there is a very big contingent of GoPro here in Norway, but i use contour, although i am going to buy a GoPro 3 Black for next season, this is for specific filming rather than daily use...

Also, has anyone tried using a camera for anything other than just filming, the Contour+2 has an awesome feature for HDMI out that allows you to stream live, and i know you can probably do this with the GoPro as well, but only when not in the case, and the difference there is a contour works with no case really well...

So i have a Cerevo Live Shell and i occasionally stream, mostly from my stepson learning, so family and friends etc can keep up if they want from the warmth of the living room, and as the lessons are 6-8pm it gets a little cold...

In total, we have 2 Countour+2's, 1 Contour GPS and 1 Contour Roam in the house... Haha





I also have a AR Drone 2.0 which is awesome to fly at the slopes, but that will be upgraded this season probably to a DJI Phantom with a much better range for filming... ;)
 

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I use the drift ghost now. We got a free gopro black last season and it's just a pain in the ass. Good quality but not even close to the user friendly and features packed into the ghost.
 

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i have two gopros that i never use, but i mention it because one of them i found while fishing. it was laying on the bottom of the river with algae growing on it on the side of a rapid i was fishing. it still worked... so there's that. :dunno:
 

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I've got a first gen HD Hero, first gen Contour HD, and a Sony Action Cam (HD, the one with WiFi built in).

There have been a lot of issues with the H3 so I am glad I held off on that. Terrible battery life, lots of bugs, etc. They may have addressed these with firmware updates, but there's still the bad battery life. The battery on the Hero or H2 is better.

For the money, the Sony Action cam is a great value, with the built in wifi, decent battery life, great optics (on par with the H2, I think) and its shaped more like the Contour. However, the mounting options suck. GoPro definitely has the most versatile mounts and the sturdiest camera of the three that I own. The Sony is the most user-friendly, best picture (again, comparable to the H2/Roam), but the mounting options are its downfall.
 

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A friend of mine came to visit in Norway with the H3 Black, and it was nothing but grief for him, kept going flat, wifi remote dropping out switching off etc, couldn't get the settings he wanted etc etc, but i think that most of it was user error, learning how to use something on a slope when trying to do something else is not a good idea...

The thing i loved with the +2 was the ability to set it using the phone very easily, and also with my goggles i can see what the camera sees, i know this is not a camera use, but when added to the airwaves, makes for a good combination, and i don't mean watching YOUR camera, but my stepson rides with one of mine and i watch his camera, so at 7, i can go in front and not stress about looking back all the time, and i found this extremely comforting while giving HIM confidence to ride without being watched all the time, if he fell, i would see it and stop, if he didn't get straight up, i could go to him, but very handy...

The other thing is the very simple on and off, makes it so hard to get wrong, and with the lazers as well, you know what you are looking at when not connected to any other device...

Add into that, the fact that they run on Nokia batteries, meant i could get some 2500MaH batteries for about £5, which meant i didn't have to worry about batteries, just bought 7 of them for the same price of 1 normal contour battery, last 5-7 hours filming, and i don't need a charger for a weeks holiday... Haha
 

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I own the Contour Roam2 and two hero2 cameras, I tried the goggle strap mount, but while riding it jiggles and wiggles too much for me. The contour I like for simplicity and the laser alignment feature, but if I need 120fps I will reach for the gopro every time. But I learned a valuable lesson from using the contour. Never, EVER!, mount it directly to your board. It took me 3 hours to remove it after being attached for 4 months.
 

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Never, EVER!, mount it directly to your board. It took me 3 hours to remove it after being attached for 4 months.
The vibration could quite easily damage the sensor on the camera as well, and you will end up with blue lines down the movie... Haha

I did get one replaced because of this, but wouldn't try it again... ;)

A pole held low gives a much better shot with so much less shaking... ;)
 

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Yeah this has been brought up a lot. Search for "contour hero" on the forum and that should pretty much bring up every recent thread comparing the models...

I have a Contour Roam flashed to the Roam2 specs. Use it every once in a while. It's rather boring for snowboarding footage, not bad in trees I guess or using it as a chase cam to film the fiancee or buddies.

The other reason I got it is for kayaking and snorkelling. It's waterproof to 3 ft without a case, so perfect for light underwater usage. And hell, it was $99 and does 60 fps @ 720p. All the action cams have horribly small sensors so image quality sucks with all of them IMHO...
 

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I've got a first gen HD Hero, first gen Contour HD, and a Sony Action Cam (HD, the one with WiFi built in).

There have been a lot of issues with the H3 so I am glad I held off on that. Terrible battery life, lots of bugs, etc. They may have addressed these with firmware updates, but there's still the bad battery life. The battery on the Hero or H2 is better.

For the money, the Sony Action cam is a great value, with the built in wifi, decent battery life, great optics (on par with the H2, I think) and its shaped more like the Contour. However, the mounting options suck. GoPro definitely has the most versatile mounts and the sturdiest camera of the three that I own. The Sony is the most user-friendly, best picture (again, comparable to the H2/Roam), but the mounting options are its downfall.
Why do you say the sony mounting options suck? I have one and can mount in anyway you can mount a gopro. Except for chest mount.... Agree on the picture quality though.
 

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Why do you say the sony mounting options suck? I have one and can mount in anyway you can mount a gopro. Except for chest mount.... Agree on the picture quality though.
The goggle mount in particular leaves a lot to be desired (my full review here but I'll summarize why I don't like the mount). It's too big and clunky and heavy, for starters. I would need to basically duct-tape it to my helmet to keep it from bouncing all around. There is a similar issue with the Contour, although IMO it is not nearly as pronounced.

Also, there is zero adjustability, compared to the GoPro which pivots/swivels on its lego arms, or the Contour, which you can rotate the camera on the bezeled mount, and also rotate the viewing angle on the lens. So, even if I am able to keep it from bouncing all around, or, for instance if I was just crusing groomers, it's not possible to position the camera to get a good POV, in my experience.
 

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The goggle mount in particular leaves a lot to be desired (my full review here but I'll summarize why I don't like the mount). It's too big and clunky and heavy, for starters. I would need to basically duct-tape it to my helmet to keep it from bouncing all around. There is a similar issue with the Contour, although IMO it is not nearly as pronounced.

Also, there is zero adjustability, compared to the GoPro which pivots/swivels on its lego arms, or the Contour, which you can rotate the camera on the bezeled mount, and also rotate the viewing angle on the lens. So, even if I am able to keep it from bouncing all around, or, for instance if I was just crusing groomers, it's not possible to position the camera to get a good POV, in my experience.

Agree the goggle mount is junk, however you can just use a Gopro adaptor and use the Gopro mounts which lets everything else work exactly the same.
 

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I have used the Contour Goggle mount previously, but with the helmet it is useless, with just a beanie it works reasonably well and doesn't flap in the same way though, don't know if anyone else has found that...

The helmet i have now over comes this problem by having a plate that you affix the Contour or GoPro mount to, and this affixes by way of bolts to the helmet making it very secure but not permanently fixed, is does the GoPro on top at the front and the Contour to either side...

 

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Guys you must consider the Drift HD, has full colour screen, playback option, 180 degree lens, low profile, any angle mount , wireless wrist band buttons.. and 1080 Hd recording, 60+fps great for slow-mo editing..
The go pro is like a parachute on a golf tee compared to the drift..
 

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I've got a Contour+ and it works for me. Love the goggle mount and have a pole mount also. Bought it last season since I planned a trip to Jackson Hole for this year and wanted to get used to using it and have something to capture my trip. I'm just not a GoPro person, wouldn't like the brick on my head and I'm not always wearing a helmet. Honestly I think they're all pretty decent as far as video quality and can be doctored up with the right video software. So, I'm not gonna be a fanboy and say this one sucks over the other...different strokes for different folks
 

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have any of you guys used your action cameras for filming non-action type events? Would you take it to the beach with fam and friends to get some shots of people goofing off in the water. I doubt you'd wanna use an action camera for filming a wedding or something like that or something indoors, due to the fact it doesn't do well in low light conditions.

I was thinking of grabbing some sort of action cam for the winter season, but if it would be worthwhile to take it to the beach or out to the lake or just fucking off with friends and family, I'll pick one up sooner.
 

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It is a question that YOU need to ask yourself not others, i have stuck my Contour on a pole to record over people at shows, down at the water, the kids take it in the swimming pool messing about, so the beach etc is great as well, use it on the boat on a suction mount to film it can be used for all sorts, but normally only stuff close up as the zoom function just doesn't exist...

If you would feel stupid using it but you wouldn't using a normal camcorder then you have your own answer, but any that has a waterproof case, the GoPro or the Contour are suitable for all of these including the beach as then you don't have an issue with sand etc, just rinse under the Tap... ;) The Contour Roam is just as suitable, as it is water resistant, but sand etc might be an issue...

As i have already said, we have lots of Contour in the house, but i am going to buy a GoPro, for specific filming, including mounting in on a DJI Phantom... For filming from the air, I have an AR Drone 2.0 which is really fun to play with, but the range is a real issue at 50m max and if it goes out of that range you are likely to lose it, the DJI Phantom has a 300m range and a return to home function so you cannot lose it...

So think about your needs, and decide from that if you can add more functionality to your needs by other uses... ;)
 

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Yeah I think the biggest issue is the fish-eye perspective. These are wide angle lenses on the action cams and they SUCK unless you're withing probably 15 feet of the camera.

There are alternative lenses you can put in, but they cost around $100.

I used mine to do a time lapse video of a steak being pre-salted, and it came out just okay.

If you want ANY quality to the shots at all, I wouldn't bother with an action cam. However they are fun for snorkelling, maybe set it up in a sprinkler with the kids running through, etc.?!?
 
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