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Been a minute since I've posted, and I'll get right to it - I'm trying to kill myself and not getting close enough (Louder, faster, meaner desired).

I'm not displeased with my decks, but am looking for something more (if sports cars were $500 we'd have 12 of them so why not explore). I want to go faster, with long hard carves that bite like hell, I just don't know where to look next. Also going to try taking lessons to see what I can updgrade on myself.
  • 190lbs with gear
  • 5'8 top heavy build
  • Moved to LA and have been going to west coast glory resorts - typically staying in the alpine area.
My two current go to's are the endeavor clout and archetype 158's. Love the all-around do anything feel of the clout and the ripper nature of the archetype (My favorite board).
Have NOW Pilots and Ride Insano 9.5 boots. My NS T2 I retired (super fun with CRC but very squirrely at high speeds). I grabbed a 162 YES PYL last season thinking a longer stiffer freeride deck would get me closer to my goals and I honestly didn't love it. It feels like more work with no noticeable improvement on speed, carves, or edge hold to warrant it - in fact I find my other boards better in all categories with more life in them. I can't lay down as far as I'd like right now because my toe scrapes on all decks in the ideal weightless feeling spot on turns.

I'm looking at Now O-Drives and stiffer bindings, looking at wide decks, looking at longer stiffer boards... I have 0 time to demo decks because when my friends get on-snow it's a pure ride mission, and most demo sections I see feel limited with custom X and jones ultra for the freeriders.

Any suggestions I'm open to, just looking to get radder.
 

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Mig Fullbags Diamond Blade or Hammerhead.
 

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Demo that Custom X. I have the Archetype too and while it is a playful freeride deck that charges really well my Amplid UNW8 (similar to the Custom X) takes digging trenches at high speed to another level... Your legs gonna have the work out of their life but there is no bullshit in the love for stiff full camber boards.
 

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Switch to AT boots like Atomic Backlands, Spark one binding pucks and Dyno DH plates along with something like the Amplid UNW8, donek, Diamond Blade and such. And with 190#, up it to a 164-68 range with width so as not to boot out. The stiffer AT boots will give you more leverage and response to handle a wider, stiffer and longer board.
 

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Are you trying to get korua carvy or hardboot hella fast carvy? Is carvy a word?
 

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Yes Optimistic or Korua Cafe Racer Plus assuming you also want to ride powder (like big fast open bowls) on it. Or see if you can find a Burton Dump Truck (also assuming you want to ride powder on it)...
 

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I'm 6'3", 195lbs. The easiest board I have to carve and go fast on is a Lib Doughboy Shredder, hands down. There's no replacement for displacement or length, IMO. It can be a missile but with 195cm to work with you can really lay down carves at low speeds too. So maybe check out something like this year's Litigator; similar idea but a much more reasonable 170cm length that won't necessarily span three moguls at a time.

The most fun I've had carving on a more normal board is on a Rome Blur 164W. Tied for second place are the Custom X 162, Yes Optimistic 157, and the Rome Mod 162 which unfortunately they don't make anymore. I'd probably put the Lib x Lost Rocket in there but the shape has changed a bit since I rode one a few years ago; but that board is fun as hell too. All are great boards that can easily send you to the ER.
 

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More rad depends on where you want to take your riding. Pure carving? Or do you want to do rad things in places like trees and other critical parts of the mountain?
 

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I'm trying to kill myself and not getting close enough (Louder, faster, meaner desired).

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  • 190lbs with gear
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My two current go to's are the
endeavor clout

and archetype 158's.
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Uhm... faster meaner louder? Then size up!

Agree with @drblast. Decent length is key for that type of riding. My go to groomer boards are 156 and I'm 125lbs ?

If you also aim to ride alpine pow, look at Jones Carbon Flagship 164. That should be fast n mean enough :). It's hubbies favorite board since several seasons for groomers and pow (he's a speed deamon who loves to carve hard). But be prepared to work for your turns.
 

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Switch to AT boots like Atomic Backlands, Spark one binding pucks and Dyno DH plates along with something like the Amplid UNW8, donek, Diamond Blade and such. And with 190#, up it to a 164-68 range with width so as not to boot out. The stiffer AT boots will give you more leverage and response to handle a wider, stiffer and longer board.
It would be a shame not experience this kind of setup in my life considering I tighten my insano's to where my feet go numb, then open them just enough for circulation again. interesting seeing the different possible gear. Korua definitely looks rad on groomers and may be a fun one just to toss in. Carbon flag, amplid unw, and fullbag's are all looking like the right direction.

More rad depends on where you want to take your riding. Pure carving? Or do you want to do rad things in places like trees and other critical parts of the mountain?
I have a splitboard for touring, i have fun all mountain decks that i enjoy in trees and such, need a better powder board. If i'm on resort, i'm typically riding down from alpine to mid mountain - which is why i'm looking to open it up.

Uhm... faster meaner louder? Then size up!

Agree with @drblast. Decent length is key for that type of riding. My go to groomer boards are 156 and I'm 125lbs ?

If you also aim to ride alpine pow, look at Jones Carbon Flagship 164. That should be fast n mean enough :). It's hubbies favorite board since several seasons for groomers and pow (he's a speed deamon who loves to carve hard). But be prepared to work for your turns.
Sound advice, I've been seeing your posts for years now and your flag dedication is unwavering. Would have to believe it's well informed ;), will add it to the list.
 

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Sound advice, I've been seeing your posts for years now and your flag dedication is unwavering. Would have to believe it's well informed ;), will add it to the list.
I myself hardly ever ride my flag anymore. I'm not into this faster meaner game :) so I hardly ever need its high speed stability. My daily driver is something easier on my knees :).

Hubby OTOH swears by it as daily driver (take this with a pinch of salt... we don't ride all day, all mtn. When groomers too crowded, or chewed up and bumpy in the afternoons, we're in the après bar ;)). Only other board he has, is an even stiffer custom designed carving board.
 

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The Signal Tailgunner is rad AF. It easily charges as hard as my Flagship, but has insane float and is more nimble in trees. I've rode my flagship once since owning a Tailgunner.
 

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Sound advice, I've been seeing your posts for years now and your flag dedication is unwavering. Would have to believe it's well informed ;), will add it to the list.
Well... I myself hardly ever ride my flag anymore. I'm not into this speed game on groomers :) so I hardly ever need its high speed stability. My daily driver is something easier on the knees :). I keep the flag in the hope that we will return to AK one day.

Hubby OTOH swears by it as daily driver (take this with a pinch of salt... we don't ride all day, all mtn. When groomers get too crowded, or chewed up and bumpy in the afternoons, we're in the après bar ;)). Only other board he has, is an even meaner custom designed carving board. I mentioned it to you as you asked for something alike.
 

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Been a minute since I've posted, and I'll get right to it - I'm trying to kill myself and not getting close enough (Louder, faster, meaner desired).

I'm not displeased with my decks, but am looking for something more (if sports cars were $500 we'd have 12 of them so why not explore). I want to go faster, with long hard carves that bite like hell, I just don't know where to look next. Also going to try taking lessons to see what I can updgrade on myself.
  • 190lbs with gear
  • 5'8 top heavy build
  • Moved to LA and have been going to west coast glory resorts - typically staying in the alpine area.
My two current go to's are the endeavor clout and archetype 158's. Love the all-around do anything feel of the clout and the ripper nature of the archetype (My favorite board).
Have NOW Pilots and Ride Insano 9.5 boots. My NS T2 I retired (super fun with CRC but very squirrely at high speeds). I grabbed a 162 YES PYL last season thinking a longer stiffer freeride deck would get me closer to my goals and I honestly didn't love it. It feels like more work with no noticeable improvement on speed, carves, or edge hold to warrant it - in fact I find my other boards better in all categories with more life in them. I can't lay down as far as I'd like right now because my toe scrapes on all decks in the ideal weightless feeling spot on turns.

I'm looking at Now O-Drives and stiffer bindings, looking at wide decks, looking at longer stiffer boards... I have 0 time to demo decks because when my friends get on-snow it's a pure ride mission, and most demo sections I see feel limited with custom X and jones ultra for the freeriders.

Any suggestions I'm open to, just looking to get radder.
The Korua Bullet Train, not a blind vote here. I've been snowboarding for 20 + years. If I've ridden it, I've wrecked on it. Probably the only reason I'm still around is that I was an early adopter of helmets. The only board that has ever scared me is the Bullet Train, it is SO EFFING FAST. It feels like the sports car you are referencing. Turns on a dime, and the first few rides up the lift you can see the line you took because the carve is so distinctive. She literally leaps off the hill as you transition from heel to toe. leaving blank spots on your "S" line. With enough speed, and the right spot on the hill, you can do a complete circle. Well, maybe not a complete circle, but more like and Enso, which feels appropriate given the Korua's spiritual roots . 1586823410469.png
 

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The Korua Bullet Train, not a blind vote here. I've been snowboarding for 20 + years. If I've ridden it, I've wrecked on it. Probably the only reason I'm still around is that I was an early adopter of helmets. The only board that has ever scared me is the Bullet Train, it is SO EFFING FAST. It feels like the sports car you are referencing. Turns on a dime, and the first few rides up the lift you can see the line you took because the carve is so distinctive. She literally leaps off the hill as you transition from heel to toe. leaving blank spots on your "S" line. With enough speed, and the right spot on the hill, you can do a complete circle. Well, maybe not a complete circle, but more like and Enso, which feels appropriate given the Korua's spiritual roots . View attachment 153643
word. Korua is next up on the list, they make so many sweet f'ng looking boards though, how to decide between them seems difficult. I copped the jones flag and it's a great daily driver to deliver on some chargability with a nice playfulness still in it, but definitely looking to quiver up.
 

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I have '17 Flagship (not carbon, just the regular one) and I had ridden it as my main board for a few seasons but barely touched it this year. It's pretty damn stiff which is great on groomers and dry powder but it can be a work out in wet heavy snow, moguls, trees, chunder etc. I picked up a Tom Sims Pro 162X last year and it can charge almost as hard as the Flag but is so much more agile, versatile and easy on my knees. The Fullbags are also great boards, I have had the Hammerhead 171 for a while and picked up a used Diamond Blade just before Covid closed everything down. The Hammerhead, somewhat suprisingly when considering its size/shape can pretty much do it all outside of park(I guess you could but most wouldn't).
 

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I’m picking up a Bataleon Carver for this exact purpose. Fast, Nimble, quick edge to edge, light, everything you would want. Also the 3bt makes it Versatile
 
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