[Board Doctor]

.I’m looking into a more serious carving board, debating between the cafe racer 59 and the pencil 59.

Yeah the CR59 had the same effective edge as the P64, so in the same length it’s going to be better. This year the more expensive Cafe Racer Plus got titanium for more rigidity and less chatter, so that would obviously be the best, but late day snow just isn’t good carving snow.

 

[MrDavey2Shoes]

Was about to make a Korua board thread, glad to find this thread alive and well.

So this is going to be my 3rd season and I’ve been trying to get my carves lower and lower. Like the Japanese snow surf style.

I’m looking into a more serious carving board, debating between the cafe racer 59 and the pencil 59. I had trouble carving through chunder that builds up later in the day. This is probably a skill issue, as I’m still working on my bum sticking out/waist bending during my carves. But which of those two boards would you guys recommend?

sent you a PM. I have a CR159 for sale.

 

[Balthasar Gelt]

The Café Racer 59 is about the same specs as the pencil 64, the pencil 59 is closer the café racer 54 (different tail shapes). Theoritically, they should be a bit different profile on the camber profile and torsional flex. Judging from this thread, apparently not that much.

But yeah, carving groomers with a bit of surf style, the Café Racer is really great. It's really good at absorbing bumps… up to a point, there are no miracles in mine fields either. The 59 has that huge 30mm taper, which makes the turns so easy and special but also limits the versatility a bit.

Thanks for info. Yeah I guess later in the day it just becomes harder to carve. Especially with the fatigue and chunder all over the place. So I’m guessing you’re recommending the CR. That’s the general recommendation I get too. Is it just because not many people have ridden the pencil and it’s not as popular as the CR?

 

[Snowdaddy]

It would be nice if someone could snap a picture of the tail contact points on the CR.

 

[GDimac]

I have both the Café 56 & Pencil 59 and enjoy them both, even if they technically share the same core specs/chassis. Both incredibly good carvers, but the Pencil feels a touch more "playful" between the two. My Pencil is more broken in than the Café though, so that could also be playing a role.

In any case, both optimal in good/soft snow. Not ideal in bulletproof conditions, that's for sure. Koruas feel extra stiffer and wider in those conditions; I opt for my Souly Grail in those situations out of all 3.

 

[foe]

Korua have just released an "In Action" video for the Cafe Race Plus. All the product spec is in another video so this one is basically a mini yearning for turning/Nicholas Wolken part. Hope they do more of these:

 

[MrDavey2Shoes]

It would be nice if someone could snap a picture of the tail contact points on the CR.

Same place it would be on the size up version of a Pencil. Just add more ineffective tail edge. There is a little bit of rocker past the camber in the nose despite what Korua says about it being full camber.

 

[Etienne]

How can he have that much toe overhang with that much WW and ++ ? 😲

 

[nitro91]

im us 10.5 and 200lbs, should i go with the 164 dart or?
will be for japan carving and powder

 

[Etienne]

You should be fine on both the 160 and 164, depending on what you like. More or less tail, more or less tapper… But yeah, it should be great for japan!

 

[Powdertrax]

Those of you living in the PNW/Washington and curious of Korua, Boardworks in Bellingham is now a Korua dealer

 

[Pablo$]

Hey good idea I should rep my local.... Those of you in/near the twin cities, I stopped by our local Zombie board shop last night, and they had a full run of sizes for the tranny and the otto, plus a couple pencils and CRs....

 

[lifeisgold]

I think weight is a typo indeed, the plus line has always been super light.

Idk If anyone quoted the email they sent out. Seems like they put titanium in the plus- weight makes sense. Be interesting to see if they're changing what the plus line represents going forward.

 

[dwdesign]

The added metal will dampen the ride, which was the weak point of having an ultralight deck.

 

[lifeisgold]

The added metal will dampen the ride, which was the weak point of having an ultralight deck.

And also make it heavy. Which would affect another characteristic of an ultralight board.

All jokes aside korua plus line was always a little bit of an oddity imo. Most companies plus line represents their harder rider the more advanced expert. Someone who wants to charge harder and faster, but Koruas plus line was for someone who wanted a lighter board I guess? With slightly better materials? It was like a side protect. If anything it's a little bit more suited to going to the park but K's target audience almost exclusively carving riders.

This makes more sense. Get a titanium version with a better base better materials but also able to charge even harder.

It could be they feel like they're going to use the plus line to do different things with different models. Like the plus otto would still remain light and poppy

 

[d3tro]

With a Korua CF, Cartel or Cartel X?

Edit: because I can have a discount on them

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[finboy]

Bought a 159 pencil from the boys at tribute, will Report back on how it rides in december

 

[GDimac]

With a Korua CF, Cartel or Cartel X?

Edit: because I can have a discount on them

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Cartel X. I'd go with the more responsive option, esp for the Korua line. The quicker the input, the more optimal Koruas feel/ride in my exp. Hope that helps.

 

[Etienne]

I would go with stiffer more responsive bindings too. This board requires a bit of work, you want your binding to transmit quite some power to have it moving.

 

[d3tro]

Thanks guys, just too bad I can't take my 2020 Cartel because they are EST on my One Hitter and not Re.Flex.

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