this guy gets itSome local resort carving today on my Dart 160. Not a perfect run, some mistakes due to icy spots.
I originally had a CR159 which I sold due to boot drag, but I liked the taper. Then I had CR164, which was way too much of a board for a small hill like this. The Dart 160 feels like it’s between the CR 159 and CR164.
My stance is 52 wide, front ~40°, back 18°. Max forward lean on highbacks.
Hello Koruans,
Just got my first Korua, Dart 156.
Currently riding on custom x for hard, icy days and dump truck for powder, soft.
Old driver x boots, disintegrated after 10+ years, so i'm now waiting for ride insano's to arrive.
The only thing left is appropriate bindining, since I only have old burton P1 binding, maybe it is to soft for Dart.
I'm thinking maybe to get Ride A10 or C10, and they will be also good match for custom x (now genesis est on them).
Has anyone tried bindings this stiff on Dart?
Frankly I don't deserve my TF either, but I believe I'm just beginning to transition from low intermediate to intermediate; I got the board with the intent to "grow" into the board after being inspired by the "yearning.." video series Korua put out. It's been quite the challenge on the icier and narrow east coast slopes here in the US hahaSaw a lot of Koruas last week in Les Arcs: a 56 Café Racer (guy was y last 50kg heavier than me), another CR and a Dart on low intermediate twisting their hips, a Pencil plus with the roughly the same technique and a TF sliding down a straight line changing edge for style but with no effect on the trajectory whatsoever.
I don't want to be like "you don't deserve the board", but really it's a mystery to me how they come to buy these boards in the first place and even more what kind of fun they are having on it...
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Great post, thx.I've been riding a TF57 and TF57+ for the last few years (both boards with 31mm taper). IMO it depends on how you like to turn the board. Over the years I've had Rome Cleavers and Union Atlas on the TF+, and Cleavers and Katanas on the TF Classic. Rome is nice for having a little lateral give yet still being "stiff", so it's not a bad option.
I've had to get rid of both Rome's this year as I sized to a 10.5 Ride Lasso Pro boot, so had to go to medium binding (from a L/XL). Picked up a used set of current year's Union Stratas for the Classic TF, and to be honest, they are very close in feel to the Katanas and are totally solid if you like a little looser slashy feel. Personally I find Korua not overly demanding, even the TF+ (contrary to Angrysnowboarder's review of the +). To each there own. You can make a Korua rail a long hard fast carve with a stiff boot and binding setup, or have a blast noodling around slashing banks with a looser setup. Korua's are cool with a variety of bindings. I've been riding 30+ years (old school free rider), but I have my preferences and you will have yoursI didn't love the Atlas, as I like a cushy baseplate!
One thing i didn't love on the TF+ a couple years ago when I had Ride Insano boots with the Cleavers. It fell too locked in for my liking, and Riding West Coast British Columbia Chunder (basically a pow day after 10AM), was work, and I found myself getting 'stood up' on occasion. I prefer a lot of ankle flexion when I'm getting all cruisy
(also, this is my first post so apologies for crashing into this long conversation, have been lurking here for years haha)
I really didn't like the rides:Great post, thx.
I was also considering Cleavers as a option, but still not sure are they stiff enough for my liking.
Got a good offer for new Ride A8 2022, trying to figure out the difference between them and A10. The guy who tried both says there is no big difference in stifness, and highback on A8 is bigger than A10 which is plus for me.
2022 and 2023 models as far I can see are exactly the same specs, only color differs.
I'm riding only plus angles, and zero switch and park.
I got last years from snow country…Cleavers look great but not any good price around. Will cost me more than 500eur now.
Quick request, anyone tried the tranny finder split and escalator? Is there enough value to make the jump to the plus line or is the tf ample? canadian Rockies snow including Nelson area, 157 likely the size I’m looking at.
also got some turns in on my 159 pencil (which I wish they made in a split, but sadly it’s a big gap)
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I really didn't like the rides:
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Ride C-9 Composite Binding
I rode these today and wasn’t impressed. Even with the Insano boots there wasn’t much forward support. The heal strap anchor is only 2.25“ off the board and the base is fairly thick as well. This wasn’t what I expected from a “9” in stiffness. I thought they’d be more locked in. It seems...www.snowboardingforum.com
I replaced them with Cleavers on my Maelstrom. They're a good match.
If you want an even more locked in feel, you could go for the Flux XV or CV. The 22 CV's in white might look cool. It's going to be REALLY locked in with the Insano though. A rough ride as well, but you've got the other setup for ice.
yea I’m 150 lbs and ride a 154 for a daily so I’m a bit stuck with the tf or e, I just worry about what kind of damage the plus line stuff can take in shoulder seasons. Right now it is pretty rough around Banff and we have a lot of dry weather for the next two weeks, I suspect this will be even worse by spring this year so it’s hard to swallow the extra cost of a delicate board.Ummm I didn't mention it in my first reply to Roolieman as it wasn't too relevant, but I have the TF Split as well LOL. It's the original shape, 31mm, without the clip holes. The split, even back then, was profiled a little narrower than the solid. One thing that's interesting is it has a lot more camber than both my classic, and +TF solid. With that, it has amazing climbing grip on hard skin tracks, I've skined up some pretty poor/steep tracks without heal risers, in fact not very often I flip the risers, there's than much grip. It floats a bit less than the solid due to the width and agressive camber, but it's not a whole lot different. The main con for me, which might be for all Classic Korua SPlits, is the C of G is a bit odd, and my kick turns can be work as I feel the nose is a bit heavy and the tail doesn't drop as much as i'd like. Maybe that's just my setup?
It's beat pretty hard, so the next Spit for me might be the Pencil 164. I'm 180lbs dry so the TF split is a little small when I'm loaded up.
I currently have the A-10's on my 156 Dart but I haven't tried it yet, we leave for Japan in 3 weeks. I did try them on my 159 K2 Manifest which is also pretty stiff and decided they would be great on the Dart.Hello Koruans,
Just got my first Korua, Dart 156.
Currently riding on custom x for hard, icy days and dump truck for powder, soft.
Old driver x boots, disintegrated after 10+ years, so i'm now waiting for ride insano's to arrive.
The only thing left is appropriate bindining, since I only have old burton P1 binding, maybe it is to soft for Dart.
I'm thinking maybe to get Ride A10 or C10, and they will be also good match for custom x (now genesis est on them).
Has anyone tried bindings this stiff on Dart?
Nice turning! You can lift your back shoulder on the toe turn instead of touching the snow with your hand. Wolken talks about it in the turning basics video. To be clear, your touch looks natural, like the result of getting lower, not leaning forward. Still, it's like you'd be placing some barrier between you and the snow, which prevents you from committing more and going lower.I’m just going too slowly to really commit to the carve, because the slope is so mellow![]()
Yeah, I mean whatever people have fun on is great… I'm just not sure a Pencil plus is much for skidding blues. But, hell, who am I to tell people they are not having fun 🤷Frankly I don't deserve my TF either, but I believe I'm just beginning to transition from low intermediate to intermediate; I got the board with the intent to "grow" into the board after being inspired by the "yearning.." video series Korua put out. It's been quite the challenge on the icier and narrow east coast slopes here in the US haha