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Ok, so again weird scaling and basically the 160 with an extra 4 mm width in the nose but 5 mm more taper. Same sidecut radius.
All in all, very similar width underfoot to the 160 but more effective edge.

I don’t like it because I like it very much.

I was pretty much set to get a CR 164 and compare to my CR 159, now I have a dillema.
 

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Has anyone had the chance to ride the Trenchdigger... no reviews on that board at all.
When i was talking with them about a CR two years ago I was looking also at the TD. They pretty much told me the TD is meant for high speeds on empty and wide open early morning piste, its very aggressive. If thats not what I'd be doing then to look at the CR.

Seems like a 1 trick pony. Hope that helps.
 

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When i was talking with them about a CR two years ago I was looking also at the TD. They pretty much told me the TD is meant for high speeds on empty and wide open early morning piste, its very aggressive. If thats not what I'd be doing then to look at the CR.

Seems like a 1 trick pony. Hope that helps.
If the Trenchdigger had a longer effective edge I don't think I'd hesitate to buy it. I emailed Korua about the Bullet Train and the Trenchdigger. The guy at Korua thought the Trenchdigger had plenty of effective edge and that it had a pretty long edge in the tail. It's just that compared to other boards I've been looking at that 1250 mm is pretty short. Compared to my Tracer it's not that short and with the larger sidecut it should grip well in larger radius turns, I suppose.
 

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If the Trenchdigger had a longer effective edge I don't think I'd hesitate to buy it. I emailed Korua about the Bullet Train and the Trenchdigger. The guy at Korua thought the Trenchdigger had plenty of effective edge and that it had a pretty long edge in the tail. It's just that compared to other boards I've been looking at that 1250 mm is pretty short. Compared to my Tracer it's not that short and with the larger sidecut it should grip well in larger radius turns, I suppose.
I’ve been following your quest for EE for quite some time, what kind of riding are you looking to do that you want so much edge?
 

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I’ve been following your quest for EE for quite some time, what kind of riding are you looking to do that you want so much edge?
Basically carving at various speeds. I'm not eurocarving but I still fell like I have use of the longer effective edge in turns. I feel that a longer edge is a lot more confidence inspiring in the turn and the board feels a lot more on rails.
 

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Basically carving at various speeds. I'm not eurocarving but I still fell like I have use of the longer effective edge in turns. I feel that a longer edge is a lot more confidence inspiring in the turn and the board feels a lot more on rails.
Do you have anything full traditional camber with no rocker/early riser? That’s a recipe for that “on rails” sensation.
 

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Do you have anything full traditional camber with no rocker/early riser? That’s a recipe for that “on rails” sensation.
I do have a Nidecker Tracer and it's pretty much full camber. The Nidecker is very nice to ride, but the turning radius is sort of short when put under pressure.

Edit: I weight +100kg naked...
 

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I have a fullbag diamond blade. Talk about riding rails, wow. It’s a beast though. A-game always necessary. 163cm, ee 137.5. First time on the deck I almost killed myself trying to scoot around a skier and launched into the woods.
After that healthy dose of respect I was able to tame the beast. It just blasts through anything while maintaining edge hold. Definitely a fresh legs board. Tough to ride that thing all day then get up and do it again the next morning.

Not sure if Mig is still making boards as it has been sold out on the site for over a year.

Maybe you should try another brand and get the PENTAQUARK.
 

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I have a fullbag diamond blade. Talk about riding rails, wow. It’s a beast though. A-game always necessary. 163cm, ee 137.5. First time on the deck I almost killed myself trying to scoot around a skier and launched into the woods.
After that healthy dose of respect I was able to tame the beast. It just blasts through anything while maintaining edge hold. Definitely a fresh legs board. Tough to ride that thing all day then get up and do it again the next morning.

Not sure if Mig is still making boards as it has been sold out on the site for over a year.

Maybe you should try another brand and get the PENTAQUARK.
The Diamond Blade looks very nice, but like you said it's been sold out for some time. It's also not so straightforward to buy in Europe. The Pentaquark is also interesting... it has a weight recommendation of up to 89 kg though. They don't list effective edge on it though.
 

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Pentaquark 158 is very close to 130 cm ee. For reference here is CR 159 with 120 cm EE according to Korua, both aligned tail to tail EE, white paper is the end of it.
154700

I wouldn’t worry about being over the weight recommendation as it is a very stiff board.

Endeavor Alpha and Nitro Pantera (bigger sizes) both have even more edge (full cambers with the listed running lengths and similar sidecuts).

@Scalpelman owns/used to own the Pantera.
What you did you like and what not about it when you compare it to the Diamond Blade (clearly not the same profile and construction-wise but still)?
 

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Wouldnt be worried about trenchdigger being a one trick pony, you'll get used to it. I have some similar long boards with full camber, and use them for all but really icy shit and park, ee 1300-1350 and 8,5-9 m sidecut. They make good powderboards too. Trenchdigger even has taper and noserocker. When you lean over more and put some weight into it, it flows well. The advice Korua gives about narrow stance and steeper angles (compared to duck/parkstance) does help with turning boards like this, and they give more control at speed (in smooth condition or soft snow), and the Korua touch in the nose helps get into turns. Could look at it as a hybrid, alot more fun than a camrock allmountain, but a little harder to ride in varied terrain. Wish more brands tried experimenting with more tailrocker or tail flex on mostly cambered boards, without making it a swallowtail. Korua has the turn part of it nailed with the progressive radius, and they do want the spring out of the tail, but sometimes I want that sturdy camber in the front, while being able to slash and absorb terrain with the tail, and that variation in profile would also give a progressive turn.
 

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Between my First Call 151, Slush Slasher 151, First Call 162, Tracer 161 and Pencil + 164, I pretty much feel I have most of my bases covered.

I don't mind this board being a one trick pony, but I want to be able to enjoy riding it. I'd jump on the Bullet Train if I thought I could enjoy it, but I'm worried it's going to be too wide and stiff for me. The Trenchdigger looks awesome and maybe the effective edge really is long enough, even if it's shorter than on my Tracer.

I rode the Banker and I didn't much care for the turn initiation on it, so I'm not sure about the Pantera. Amplid are an alternative to Korua. I've also been looking at the Stranda boards. The Stranda boards have that turn initiation going for them. They have this slightly shorter sidecut just in the nose to help kick off the turn.
 

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Yeah, I've tried more Stranda boards than Korua, just haven't bought either yet. Hardly ride groomers, so maybe that's it, or just feel that I can't go all out and about on demos, so I don't get hooked on them.
 

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I was going to suggest a Nitro Pantera, haven’t ridden it but Nitro does full camber well. The camber and side cut on my Team rip turns “on rails”. You feel it actively gripping way out on the tips. Side cut really allows for any radius turn you’re looking for. If it were a touch wider and a little stiffer it would be perfect, but then it would be a freeride board as opposed to an AM/FS...ah shit, I’m buying a Pantera this year arent I...
 

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I was going to suggest a Nitro Pantera, haven’t ridden it but Nitro does full camber well. The camber and side cut on my Team rip turns “on rails”. You feel it actively gripping way out on the tips. Side cut really allows for any radius turn you’re looking for. If it were a touch wider and a little stiffer it would be perfect, but then it would be a freeride board as opposed to an AM/FS...ah shit, I’m buying a Pantera this year arent I...
The Pantera 166 could be an option for me.
 
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