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Kinda sick of people raggin on resorts for closing when they've got to. Yo, its the end of the season, they've got good reasons for closing like leases, insurance and plenty more... i haven't seen it so much on here, but if any of you follow resorts on facebook then i'm sure you've seen it?

Side note: wouldn't it be sick if there were spots with a rope tow or something cheap to run that were open til ALL the snow was gone? One man operation steez :dunno:

Fuckit, i'm dreaming i know!
 

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The lease excuse is bullshit. They close because they're no longer making money. That's fine. It's called business. The point of a business is to make money. It makes no sense to stay open while losing money because very few people at this point in the season are buying day passes. You're mainly serving pass holders now and that's not what pays the bills.

The other myriad of excuses the resorts use to close are just that, excuses.
 

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The lease excuse is bullshit. They close because they're no longer making money. That's fine. It's called business. The point of a business is to make money. It makes no sense to stay open while losing money because very few people at this point in the season are buying day passes. You're mainly serving pass holders now and that's not what pays the bills.

The other myriad of excuses the resorts use to close are just that, excuses.
Yup, its a business that has to stay afloat... like any other, I don't think they even need 'excuses'.

Maybe resorts should be charity based :laugh:
 

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All those excuses are fucking lame. Lease, insurance, elk migration, salmon run off, it's money that's all it comes down to. When I worked for a resort they told me they make all their money for the year from December 18th till January 6th the rest is just money in the bank. If people want to bitch let them bitch maybe it'll prolong the season next year. It's pooping snow right now and Brecks closed.
 

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The people that crack me up are the ones that have gone 10-12 times all season and while it's been puking lately they've been on their mountain bike because it's been 70 down in Denver. Now that most resorts are shutting down, NOW they want to bitch and moan. Shut the fuck up!

As far as hiking, as far as I know it's all good. Most all of them operate on National Forest land. That's all of our land. I know when Loveland shuts down for the season, they usually post a message on their website welcoming people to keep hiking but just to be safe because there will be no patrol out there.
 

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All those excuses are fucking lame. Lease, insurance, elk migration, salmon run off, it's money that's all it comes down to. When I worked for a resort they told me they make all their money for the year from December 18th till January 6th the rest is just money in the bank. If people want to bitch let them bitch maybe it'll prolong the season next year. It's pooping snow right now and Brecks closed.
yeh, it just seems like every year flossing the same deaf horse
 

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Keep in mind some resorts do photo shoots for teams and such after they close. So there could be areas that it would not be kosher to go hike and ride after they close. Otherwise most resorts on Forest Service land it's fine.

I have no idea what the rules are in Canada, as I notice the OP is from there. Could be a different animal altogether.
 

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Yup, its a business that has to stay afloat... like any other, I don't think they even need 'excuses'.
I'm sure most places know the minimum number of guests needed to break even. You still got pay wages, electricity, etc. if the place is a ghost town, but open. And you can't really play it day by day at this point in the year cuz if you close for a day or two, then everyone thinks you're closed for the year.

Nobody's getting rich operating a ski hill. Hotel rooms, real estate, bars, restaurants are the cake. Ski operations....just the frosting.

I'd hate to see more of the smaller places going under.
 

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Grouse Mtn is private land and they say they'll close skiing/riding regardless of snow levels May 1st because they have to start their summer programs (they have stuff going on year-round). Seymour (and I believe Manning) leases land from the province -- it's a ski resort in the winter and a provincial park the rest of the year. People can hike, camp, whatever once the resort is closed. But I'm sure there are specific drop-dead dates in the contract.

In fact once Seymour is 'closed', there's still a fair amount of snowboarding activity if there's still snow -- especially on Northlands in the jumps area.
 

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Well, that's Vail. I'm sure a lot of big destination resorts do more than okay as they're drawing from a much larger market. Unfortunately, I can't afford to do more than 20% of my riding st places where I have to pay for accomodations as well.

It would be interesting to see numbers on who rides where and what those places make. I know that around here (Ottawa, Ont.), we've got Tremblant 2 hours away, Jay Peak 4 hours, but you're probably still going to do the bulk of your riding at the local Mom & Pop places because they're only 30 minutes away (unless your local place is Vail!)
 
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