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You guys are probably super BOARD about this topic, but I kinda need help.

Some decent sale prices here in the UK and I am looking at getting my first board. I have basically narrowed it down to the Never Summer SL (surprise surprise), now I just need help with sizing.

I only started riding two years ago, I have about 3 weeks under my belt. I am looking at the SL because they have had great reviews and it seems like a board that I can have for a few season as I get better and better.

I have no interest in rails, jumps maybe, but more Free Riding. I wont be doing any deep plow for some time.

I am 5ft 8
weight 167 lbs
Shoe Size: US 10.5

I am looking to pair up the board with the Burton Cartel Restricted (this version is the only one I can source in the UK), I currently have a super soft boot - Vans High Standard

So the question really is go for the 155 or 158? Also do I need to look into a wide board (like the Heritage x)

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SORRY

You guys are probably super BOARD about this topic, but I kinda need help.

Some decent sale prices here in the UK and I am looking at getting my first board. I have basically narrowed it down to the Never Summer SL (surprise surprise), now I just need help with sizing.

I only started riding two years ago, I have about 3 weeks under my belt. I am looking at the SL because they have had great reviews and it seems like a board that I can have for a few season as I get better and better.

I have no interest in rails, jumps maybe, but more Free Riding. I wont be doing any deep plow for some time.

I am 5ft 8
weight 167 lbs
Shoe Size: US 10.5

I am looking to pair up the board with the Burton Cartel Restricted (this version is the only one I can source in the UK), I currently have a super soft boot - Vans High Standard

So the question really is go for the 155 or 158? Also do I need to look into a wide board (like the Heritage x)

Thanks Guys
On the size question: It depends on where you are going to ride and what kind of riding you are planning to do, but probably 158. 155 could be preferable if you are mostly going to ride park, small hills, and no powder.

And you do not need or want a wide board.
 

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On the size question: It depends on where you are going to ride and what kind of riding you are planning to do, but probably 158. 155 could be preferable if you are mostly going to ride park, small hills, and no powder.

And you do not need or want a wide board.
I want be going to the park much, no rails. I am interested in small jumps. I am to old and stiff to be cool at the park.

I will be sticking to free ride for the time being.

I just though height wise the 155 would be easier to handle.
 

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I want be going to the park much, no rails. I am interested in small jumps. I am to old and stiff to be cool at the park.

I will be sticking to free ride for the time being.

I just though height wise the 155 would be easier to handle.
Height does not really matter for board size.

For your comparison, I am 145lbs and one of my boards is a 155 NS Cobra (very similar to SL). It is a good size for me for groomers, resort riding, etc. It is too small for me for serious powder and off-piste riding.
 

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I agree that the 158 is the better choice for your needs. I weigh about the same as the OP ( a touch more) and 157/158 is the best for all round riding.

The 155 would be better if your main focus was freestyle but clearly that is not the case.
 

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Agree with hktrdr..

-You do not need a wide board with a 10.5 boot

-As far as length to weight prob a 158 would be best

-You will hear alot of pros and cons from people about never summer.. some people feel that this board is sponsored by never summer. That said.. below are the reasons I choose NS as my next board.

- Recently purchased and just setup a NS Legacy (the wide version of the SL.. I have size 13 feet.) and a set of Rome 390 boss bindings.. multiple pairs of Vans boots (Aura,Infuse,Cirro) << Yeah excessive but...I work for Vans :)

Im 6'4 195lbs

Reasons for buying:

-I wanted a poppy responsive board for anything from some park to all mountain riding.. on and off piste.
-I choose the 161 cm because I use to ride a 162cm and could not see going up in size to 163cm.
-I have real life friends who said you can't go wrong with a NS board
-I liked the durability and warranty they offered.. 3 Years! I am not the type of person that switches his board every year, I buy quality and ride it for 5 years.
-Finally.. Even thou I live in Switzerland now.. I still like to support US companys.. IMO better quality.

First Impressions of the board.

-The top sheet is very shiny.. the graphic is what it is, If you buy a board based on graphic then well thats your prerogative.
-The WOW for me is the side walls of this board .. full sintered ptex all the way around.. this thing looks and feels like a tank .. yet not really heavy.
-The base looks and feels very fast and the NS graphic is simple but cool.
-This board is super Flexy! I didnt expect this much flex.. but im super stoked on riding this bad boy and laying down some sweet butters and presses.

So I am really stoked on my choice.. for you the real question is do you want a poppy go everywhere board or a less flexy hard charger like the heritage. One plus for the heritage is the carbonium topsheet.. durability wise and it looks pretty cool.

Hope this helps best of luck.

pics of my new board..

http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/81922-2013-2014-setup-pics-8.html
 

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Thanks guys!

Very useful information!

Shall be ordering the 158 soon.

Still wish I lived in the US, I could pick up the board for a hell of a lot less.

On sale the cheapest I have found is £340 ($514) :sad:
 

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Yeah man I feel you.. for me luckily I still go back to Cali for work and was able to buy my board and bindings for US prices and get it shipped to my parents.

Think I paid $420 for the whole setup.. Love those spring clearances!

Can I ask why Burton Cartel? I agree Burton makes great bindings.. I went back and forth on the cartel or the 390boss.. the Rome bindings I just bought have so many cool features.. also prob the most comfortable easy binding to strap into that I have ever owned. Have not ridden them yet but strapping in on my living room rug felt sweet!
 

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Can I ask why Burton Cartel? I agree Burton makes great bindings.. I went back and forth on the cartel or the 390boss.. the Rome bindings I just bought have so many cool features.. also prob the most comfortable easy binding to strap into that I have ever owned. Have not ridden them yet but strapping in on my living room rug felt sweet!
The reason why I was going for the cartels, is purely on the reviews and opinions from people on forums. The 390 Boss was my second choice, lol

I could technically get the stuff shipped to my mate in Canada - I will meet him up in Feb when I go back to Panorama. It is a possibility.
 

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If your going to buy it in the states, I would hurry!

Just doing a quick database search the 158 is out of stock everywhere.. except Snowboard. Skate. Surf. Clothing. Shoes. | Tactics Board Shop they have it for $356.99

The ankle strap on the boss is much much more comfortable then the cartels.. I also like the toe strap its not a cap like the cartel but it flexes and conforms to your toe.. very nice. The canted footbed feels good and you get optios of 2.0 cant or 3.5 cant. They are really easy to switch out and over all the binding is very easy to customize. The other binding people like are the flux line.
 

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If your going to buy it in the states, I would hurry!

Just doing a quick database search the 158 is out of stock everywhere.. except Snowboard. Skate. Surf. Clothing. Shoes. | Tactics Board Shop they have it for $356.99

The ankle strap on the boss is much much more comfortable then the cartels.. I also like the toe strap its not a cap like the cartel but it flexes and conforms to your toe.. very nice. The canted footbed feels good and you get optios of 2.0 cant or 3.5 cant. They are really easy to switch out and over all the binding is very easy to customize. The other binding people like are the flux line.
It is weird when you do research on one product you see all the positives, however when comparing the boss 390 to the cartels, you get a complete different perspective. Will keep one going to make my mind up. The boss can be picked up for £130 here which is not that bad.

I have found a place in canada that sell the 158 for $357 (not sure if that is USD and CAD) NEVER SUMMER SL 158 Snowboard | Canada's premiere Snowboard, Skateboard, Longboard, and Skate Shoe Shop

BTW you must have a cool job if you travel to California, sure beats being an accountant lol
 

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There you go then.. only bummer about that place is the sales tax.

Yeah my Job is pretty sweet..I live in Switzerland and work out of the European corporate office but our corporate US headquarters is in Cypress, Ca so I go back about 4 times a year.
 

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There you go then.. only bummer about that place is the sales tax.

Yeah my Job is pretty sweet..I live in Switzerland and work out of the European corporate office but our corporate US headquarters is in Cypress, Ca so I go back about 4 times a year.
Thanks for the help dude
 

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I believe there is some board members that are selling NS SL 158s... I just got mine from Geartrade for $266...
 

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If you have no interest in park i see no reason why you would look at the heritage. Personally i feel like this forum is sort of NS bias so make sure you are looking at other brands as well.
 

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So frigging stoked... The web photos do not do this board justice!
 
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