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Thought I would post a quick review after riding the board for half a season in Aus.

Me - Decent rider, 83kg. Rode most of my life and now generally a month or two a year shared across japan and australia. 30 yr/o.

Set up - +15, -15, reference stance width. 159 size board. 11.5us flexy as all hell definitely need to be replaced Burton AMD boots. Switch back Universe bindings.

Conditions - Australia is generally pretty wet, crusty snow. This year we have had some decent powder-y days. Have taken this thing from first day of the season jibbing to powdery back country lines.

The asym to me is interesting because I don't really notice it that much while I'm riding, but I do get a feeling like I'm riding much smoother and better than I have on other boards. I notice the toe side feels like I can really stretch out a carve but I don't feel anything odd when I go back to the heel side. I think to me it feels just like the board is more balanced than my regular boards or that it's matching what I want it to do more. It's quite subtle.

Flex I'd rate at pretty medium but supportive. You can flex into it a bit and then it starts giving you a fair bit back. It's super stable on landings. Also very catch free, the price you pay for that though I think is you don't really have that big camber bounce in turns or when jumping.

It floats better than you might expect for a twin and has a lot of volume. I'd say its a smooth, cruisey ride you can basically do anything with and it works well, it's extremely confidence inspiring.

On jibs I actually really love it, I haven't enjoyed a board on boxes and rails as much as this one. Nice flex, nice volume to butter around.

Carving is really nice, I don't find I can really throw myself down into a huge euro carve with out thinking about it but it's almost there and you can drive around nicely.

Pop is decent and it feels awesome on the jumps, only have hit the medium line and side hits though. I really like the landings, very stable feeling and it's super catch free so if you don't quite get a spin you can butter it through easily.

Feels like it's damp but lively, fine hammering around over everything.

All in all a really nice board I'm enjoying a lot, it's so versatile. I think it could be a great one board quiver, the only thing missing to me is that feel of charge-y camber that really springs you out of a turn, but I think you have to compromise on that to unlock all the other nice attributes of the board. I think I'll try and find something slightly more directional and more agressive to couple it up with.
 

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Thanks for this. I'm on the opposite side to you. I have a charge-y directional board in the Jones Flagship, love it.

I'm looking at getting either this, or Ride Twinpig, as my all-mountain freestyle board.

I see you have the 159, could you please tell me the width of the board underneath, at the insert pack/reference point. Trying to work out if my size 13US TM3's will fit on and still allow me to lay over a carve. Thanks
 

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Great review thank you for that. I'm wondering if you tried the 156cm Yes The Greats 2019 model? I have the 2018 159cm model and rode the 2019 156cm model and it was awesome. I'm about 80kgs 5'11', the guy who owned it was about 84kg and 5'11" but not experienced.
 

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Thanks for this. I'm on the opposite side to you. I have a charge-y directional board in the Jones Flagship, love it.

I'm looking at getting either this, or Ride Twinpig, as my all-mountain freestyle board.

I see you have the 159, could you please tell me the width of the board underneath, at the insert pack/reference point. Trying to work out if my size 13US TM3's will fit on and still allow me to lay over a carve. Thanks
In terms of quality, it'd be a no-brainer - The Greats would shit all over the TwinPig for durability [I had a Greats a few years ago - it had a topsheet, for starters].

I didn't say this in your other thread, but if you are now starting to think along these lines, then good for you - As per sush1's review, Yes' camber profile lends itself to quite a bit of stability in landings.

Another board I would really, really encourage you to consider, would be the Yes Standard - I rode my cousin's one for a few runs, and was pretty blown away:
*It's got a super forgiving flex, yet holds an edge really well - I must admit, this was quite new to me.
*It was somehow softer than my Jackpot, yet MORE capable across the board - better ollies, more chuckable, better edge hold, felt lighter in 180's, more stable in landings. I know the Jackpot is their go-to park board, but the Standard felt like it would be a superior park board, in every single department
*As a more forgiving, versatile, all-around play board, I feel the Standard would fit the bill a little better than the Greats [Standard felt less aggressive than my Greats]
*Like the Greats, it's got Yes' Midbite, so plenty of volume under foot - 26.3 "narrow" waist, going out to tips that are north of 31cm wide
*I'm trying to get my local board store to source a Burton Process for me [162]. Whilst I love the Channel, if they are not able to get their hands on a Process in my specific size, I'm VERY open to the idea of getting a Standard to use as my park/side hit/cat track play board.

Just more food for thought, for ya!
 

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In terms of quality, it'd be a no-brainer - The Greats would shit all over the TwinPig for durability
Yeah, I'm realising that the more I read about it. I never even considered it an option until I realised they'd changed their board dimensions quite drastically for this year. I've been reading all over for details, and worked out that if it weren't for the mid-bite, the waist width on the 159 should be 265.5mm, not the 262 that they've listed. Should work with my size US13's

Another board I would really, really encourage you to consider, would be the Yes Standard
Seeing as I already have the Flagship for hard charging and back country, I'm like the idea of a mid-flex true twin to enjoy as a daily driver and start working on spins and butters, both in and out of the park. But still be able to hoof it down the mountain when mood takes me.
The Yes Greats UnInc seems to fit the bill perfectly, but thanks for the other suggestions, always useful to have more boards to read about and compare. :smile:
 

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I don't have that deck anymore so I cant take the measurements sorry.

I would really like to try the 156 Greats actually. I have 11.5us boots so I was a bit worried about the width, I think it would be OK though. Generally I ride my boards a little longer for more stability so I liked the length. I've lost a bunch of weight cause I've been injured for a while so not sure what I'll get on this year. I only have a pow board atm, so will grab something for park this year.

I'm planning to test the Twinpig when the season starts down here also, should be interesting but I am pretty sure it won't be a daily driver style board but who knows.

I've rode the standard 2018 version which I think had a bit heavier core and I liked it but it didn't blow me away in the conditions I had. The side cut is really fun for carving, but again it felt like it had a fair bit of rocker in it so not really that big camber pop / bounce from a turn. I didn't take it in the park but I did take it in some soft snow and the float seemed incredible. I've really want to ride one in japan or at a bigger mountain, looks amazing for the back country. I'd be keen to get on one with the new core.
The main thing I didn't like about the 2018 was that it felt a bit to 'burly' and sort of heavy, but the 2019-2020 might be better. I think that's a board you could take in the park, but would really be great when there's some fresh snow and you're hitting features around the mountain. Super catch free and stable as well, felt more charge-y than the greats to me. It felt a bit weird switch where the greats felt perfect switch.

Yes boards I've tried seem very smooth and forgiving, and able to step up to a hell of a lot more than I can throw at them. But I sometimes miss a big serving of camber that will kill me if I get lazy, makes things interesting.

Weird thread actually as I have ordered a twinpig to try this season, and I was heavily considering getting the standard later as my back country / fresh snow board. I greatly prefer the last two years graphics though, this years looks weird but whatever.
 

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I don't have that deck anymore so I cant take the measurements sorry.
So what made you want to sell it? What was it that bugged you about this board? Can you give me your pros and cons list for the Greats 2019 please.

Thanks for all your insights, very helpful!
 

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So what made you want to sell it? What was it that bugged you about this board? Can you give me your pros and cons list for the Greats 2019 please.

Thanks for all your insights, very helpful!
So what made you want to sell it? What was it that bugged you about this board? Can you give me your pros and cons list for the Greats 2019 please.

Thanks for all your insights, very helpful!
I swap my boards around a lot because I like trying different things, I don't spend much on other stuff but I definitely spend too much on snowboarding. I couldn't really say anything bad about the greats to be honest.

Generally I prefer a decent amount of camber and a fairly stiff board so I probably just picked a little incorrectly with this one.

The greats I think is about - ease of riding in the park, great twin pow board, great at turning.
I think It's a board for if it's there's been some snow and you want to ride trees, if your want to enjoy some accessible park riding of any kind, or if you want to take it in a banked slalom or rip around the piste and side-hits.
So it's awesome in many ways.

In my personal opinion the only downside for me was it didn't feel that aggressive. But there will be plenty of days where I feel like just putting on some beats and cruising around getting jibby and this would be perfect for that.
 

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I swap my boards around a lot because I like trying different things, I don't spend much on other stuff but I definitely spend too much on snowboarding. I couldn't really say anything bad about the greats to be honest.

Generally I prefer a decent amount of camber and a fairly stiff board so I probably just picked a little incorrectly with this one.

The greats I think is about - ease of riding in the park, great twin pow board, great at turning.
I think It's a board for if it's there's been some snow and you want to ride trees, if your want to enjoy some accessible park riding of any kind, or if you want to take it in a banked slalom or rip around the piste and side-hits.
So it's awesome in many ways.

In my personal opinion the only downside for me was it didn't feel that aggressive. But there will be plenty of days where I feel like just putting on some beats and cruising around getting jibby and this would be perfect for that.
You've told me everything I wanted to hear, pretty much. My Flagship will fill the voids that The Greats leaves, so sounds like a good 2 board quiver. Now I've just got to be patient for next season!

Thanks for your time.
 

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Yeah that would be. I've rode the jones solution split and loved it. Maybe I should try a flag haha
 

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Yeah that would be. I've rode the jones solution split and loved it. Maybe I should try a flag haha
I've heard the Solution is a bit stiffer than the Flagship, so somewhere in between the Carbon Flagship and the Regular Flagship... Keep that in mind when making your choice ;)

I've only had a week on the Flagship but fell in love with it after a couple of runs! Looks like there are some changes for the 2020 version though. 11.5mm more taper, Traction Tech 3.0 (3 additional bumps in the side cut, as opposed to 1 on the 2019 version). And other eco/sustainability upgrades.
 

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I had one and sold it. The best part about it was the mid bite edge tech. It really holds an edge. Weird thing though was that it didn’t steer from the contact points at the tips or at your feet. Felt like it drove from just inside each foot. Which is where the edge tech is. I also found it very slow edge to edge. It felt like Edge-flat-edge instead of a board that roles edge to edge. No camber load either in turns. I did find it a nice board to lay over deep and rip a carve due to its width, but that’s really it - aside from the park where it was very confindent on jumps. I had a 156 but I weigh 170 and wear 9.5 boots - it felt dead. It’s versatile but I thought over hyped. Sold it after 5 days and wound up on a full camber twin. That’s where I belong.
 

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I think I'm in a similar boat to above. Although with my 11.5 boot I had no issues with edge to edge feel. Felt really nice to me.
 

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I had one and sold it. The best part about it was the mid bite edge tech. It really holds an edge. Weird thing though was that it didn’t steer from the contact points at the tips or at your feet. Felt like it drove from just inside each foot. Which is where the edge tech is. I also found it very slow edge to edge. It felt like Edge-flat-edge instead of a board that roles edge to edge. No camber load either in turns. I did find it a nice board to lay over deep and rip a carve due to its width, but that’s really it - aside from the park where it was very confindent on jumps. I had a 156 but I weigh 170 and wear 9.5 boots - it felt dead. It’s versatile but I thought over hyped. Sold it after 5 days and wound up on a full camber twin. That’s where I belong.
From all my readings, it sounds like your board was too big. For reference, James from thegooodride, is size 9, 185-195lbs, and owns a 151 that he says is just right for him.
That'd probably explain a lot of the problems you had.

Just be grateful you have a large choice of board with 9.5s... It aint easy for us bigfooters! (US13) :crying:
 

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I had one and sold it. The best part about it was the mid bite edge tech. It really holds an edge. Weird thing though was that it didn’t steer from the contact points at the tips or at your feet. Felt like it drove from just inside each foot. Which is where the edge tech is. I also found it very slow edge to edge. It felt like Edge-flat-edge instead of a board that roles edge to edge. No camber load either in turns. I did find it a nice board to lay over deep and rip a carve due to its width, but that’s really it - aside from the park where it was very confindent on jumps. I had a 156 but I weigh 170 and wear 9.5 boots - it felt dead. It’s versatile but I thought over hyped. Sold it after 5 days and wound up on a full camber twin. That’s where I belong.
From all my readings, it sounds like your board was too big. For reference, James from thegooodride, is size 9, 185-195lbs, and owns a 151 that he says is just right for him.
That'd probably explain a lot of the problems you had.

Just be grateful you have a large choice of board with 9.5s... It aint easy for us bigfooters! (US13) <img src="http://www.snowboardingforum.com/images/SnowboardingForum_2015/smilies/tango_face_crying.png" border="0" alt="" title="Crying" class="inlineimg" />
That was my conclusion as well. I like James but I think the 151 size down was a bit dramatic. If I went for it again I’d get a 154
 

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He always rides his boards small I think. I am lighter than him and wouldn't feel anywhere near comfortable on the size boards he rides.
 

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I have one and it’s up for sale, road it for a month and a half in all conditions for a few hours 3/4 times a week.

It’s not as versatile as the old model, less suited for all mountain compared to the older version. I found that it’s worse in powder even with the extra width.

Took me a week just to get the confidence to point it whilst on edge. I’m okay now but at the time it didn’t feel as stable. I don’t know if that’s to do with the side cut being so small. It just felt sketchy going fast.

The mid bite does offer loads of grip which I like. But when I first jumped on it, I felt a dragging sensation when on edge which I didn’t enjoy, compared to my old Todd Richards board it’s not as smooth on edge. I don’t notice it now, it was just an odd sensation, which took a period of adjustment. I didn’t find it noticeable slower edge to edge but I feel that there are more vibrations underfoot.

The board is really light, lighter than the previous model for sure.
I like the extra width on boxes
Extra width on edge is nice when carving
Isn’t as fun to turn as the old model, I don’t know why

I just took my bindings off and the graphics “save the humans”underneath the binding has been partially scrubbed off. It looks a mess. Never seen that before, the underside of my binding is all red. Top sheet for sure isn’t as durable, I’m not precious about my boards but compared to my Todd Richards this is in a worse state with far less time on the hill.
 

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I have one and it’s up for sale, road it for a month and a half in all conditions for a few hours 3/4 times a week.

It’s not as versatile as the old model, less suited for all mountain compared to the older version. I found that it’s worse in powder even with the extra width.

Took me a week just to get the confidence to point it whilst on edge. I’m okay now but at the time it didn’t feel as stable. I don’t know if that’s to do with the side cut being so small. It just felt sketchy going fast.

The mid bite does offer loads of grip which I like. But when I first jumped on it, I felt a dragging sensation when on edge which I didn’t enjoy, compared to my old Todd Richards board it’s not as smooth on edge. I don’t notice it now, it was just an odd sensation, which took a period of adjustment. I didn’t find it noticeable slower edge to edge but I feel that there are more vibrations underfoot.

The board is really light, lighter than the previous model for sure.
I like the extra width on boxes
Extra width on edge is nice when carving
Isn’t as fun to turn as the old model, I don’t know why

I just took my bindings off and the graphics “save the humans”underneath the binding has been partially scrubbed off. It looks a mess. Never seen that before, the underside of my binding is all red. Top sheet for sure isn’t as durable, I’m not precious about my boards but compared to my Todd Richards this is in a worse state with far less time on the hill.
What size board and where do you live?
 
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